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ConCen money bum!
06-27-2011, 02:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011, 02:54 PM by Epinnoia.)
#31
RE: ConCen money bum!
Yeti,

Please do consider a bitcoin solution. They're currently at $17 USD per bitcoin, and may be easier for some of your many visitors to part with in these troubled times.

Even with my really crappy video card, I can 'mine' 0.2 bitcoins per day. If 20 people gave you 0.2 bitcoins a month...

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06-27-2011, 03:15 PM,
#32
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 02:36 PM)Epinnoia Wrote: you could argue that fixing the breaks on your car was an asset to ConCen, since you couldn't travel to the server without them. At some point, it becomes absurd.

OK, but we're not talking about brakes on a car, we're talking about the PC that I develop code for the site on, and which stores the backup of the site. I don't understand why you find that absurd.

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06-27-2011, 04:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011, 05:05 PM by Epinnoia.)
#33
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 03:15 PM)yeti Wrote:
(06-27-2011, 02:36 PM)Epinnoia Wrote: you could argue that fixing the breaks on your car was an asset to ConCen, since you couldn't travel to the server without them. At some point, it becomes absurd.

OK, but we're not talking about brakes on a car, we're talking about the PC that I develop code for the site on, and which stores the backup of the site. I don't understand why you find that absurd.

I didn't say it was absurd. I said that it can reach a point of absurdity, where someone in your shoes might feel he needs a new monitor, new hard drive, etc. I was showing an analogous situation. What's important is whether or not the people who donated feel that their donations were spent wrongly. If your spending donations this way causes a significant # of people to stop donating, it isn't good for the website's long-term either. You have not wronged me. And I do not presume to speak for those who donated. I do think their voices on this are of primary importance, since it is the class of donators which ultimately make this site available to everyone.

I do wonder why you would place the 'rent' at risk, though. What if you don't get the monthly hosting fees? Then you would have made the concen donators buy equipment that ultimately helps concen in no way whatsoever -- the website would presumably be taken offline, yet you'd have your computer repaired. I mean, what use is repairing the hot water heater if your wind up spending your mortgage payment to do so? Great, your water heater works! But you no longer own the home!

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06-27-2011, 05:21 PM,
#34
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 04:49 PM)Epinnoia Wrote: I didn't say it was absurd. I said that it can reach a point of absurdity, where someone in your shoes might feel he needs a new monitor, new hard drive, etc. I was showing an analogous situation. What's important is whether or not the people who donated feel that their donations were spent wrongly. If your spending donations this way causes a significant # of people to stop donating, it isn't good for the website's long-term either. You have not wronged me. And I do not presume to speak for those who donated. I do think their voices on this are of primary importance, since it is the class of donators which ultimately make this site available to everyone.

It is the donors AND the free use of my server AND the work of myself and the mods that make this site available. Without all three, there is no ConCen.

(06-27-2011, 04:49 PM)Epinnoia Wrote: I do wonder why you would place the 'rent' at risk, though. What if you don't get the monthly hosting fees?

That scenario would have forced me to pawn one of the few things of value I have left. There is no way I would let this site go down.

If the situation continued, then the site would go down through lack of monetary support.

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06-27-2011, 05:35 PM,
#35
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 04:49 PM)Epinnoia Wrote: I didn't say it was absurd. I said that it can reach a point of absurdity, where someone in your shoes might feel he needs a new monitor, new hard drive, etc. I was showing an analogous situation. What's important is whether or not the people who donated feel that their donations were spent wrongly. If your spending donations this way causes a significant # of people to stop donating, it isn't good for the website's long-term either. You have not wronged me. And I do not presume to speak for those who donated. I do think their voices on this are of primary importance, since it is the class of donators which ultimately make this site available to everyone.

I agree with you Epinnoia.

Maybe the other mods will consider your suggestion.

I'd like these donations to only go toward the monthly ConCen bill and maybe have a separate drive for " Ship Maintenance."

But at the same time... if your using paypal... you can always write in the comment section *Just for repairs* or something along those lines, if that's where you wanted your dollars to go.



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06-27-2011, 08:15 PM,
#36
RE: ConCen money bum!
When yeti first mentioned having trouble with his work station the mods discussed it and I suggested that he use site funds to have it repaired or replaced. yeti refused the offer, as I recall he thought he could repair the problem himself. So, it is not like he did this out of the blue.
I do think a finances page showing income and out go is a good idea though.
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06-27-2011, 09:32 PM,
#37
RE: ConCen money bum!
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/features

Unlimited Storage & Unlimited Data Transfer - $7.46 per month..
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06-27-2011, 10:10 PM,
#38
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 09:32 PM)TheQleaner Wrote: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/features

Unlimited Storage & Unlimited Data Transfer - $7.46 per month..

Are you joking, or do you actually believe the solution you refer to would be sufficient for this site?
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06-27-2011, 10:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011, 10:20 PM by TheQleaner.)
#39
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 10:10 PM)yeti Wrote:
(06-27-2011, 09:32 PM)TheQleaner Wrote: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/features

Unlimited Storage & Unlimited Data Transfer - $7.46 per month..

Are you joking, or do you actually believe the solution you refer to would be sufficient for this site?

Nope, not joking.. They are my host as well, and have been for several years.. Unlimited storage and bandwidth.. The only thing I dont know is if they can support MyBB.. They support MySQL and PHP, but not sure if your forum software will run.. It should..
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06-27-2011, 10:17 PM,
#40
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 09:32 PM)TheQleaner Wrote: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/features

Unlimited Storage & Unlimited Data Transfer - $7.46 per month..


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06-27-2011, 10:20 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011, 10:25 PM by rsol.)
#41
RE: ConCen money bum!
what exactly is wrong with the kit?

i ask this because spares may be more viable to folks than cash.

just a thought...
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06-27-2011, 10:45 PM,
#42
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 10:15 PM)TheQleaner Wrote: Nope, not joking.. They are my host as well, and have been for several years.. Unlimited storage and bandwidth.. The only thing I dont know is if they can support MyBB.. They support MySQL and PHP, but not sure if your forum software will run.. It should..

And the tracker? What are the chances they support bittorrent servers? Anyway it's not going to happen while I'm part of Concen.
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06-27-2011, 10:47 PM,
#43
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 10:20 PM)rsol Wrote: what exactly is wrong with the kit?

Either the motherboard or CPU. Both are ancient and could only be replaced with used equipment.

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06-27-2011, 11:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-27-2011, 11:03 PM by rsol.)
#44
RE: ConCen money bum!
is the psu as old? crappy sigs make for nutty mobos...
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06-27-2011, 11:11 PM,
#45
RE: ConCen money bum!
(06-27-2011, 11:02 PM)rsol Wrote: is the psu as old? crappy sigs make for nutty mobos...

The PSU and memory were replaced to no avail.

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