05-18-2011, 10:11 AM,
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JazzRoc
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RE: Transhumanism Predictive Programming - The Hidden Message in Pixar's Films
(05-17-2011, 01:01 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: The media feedback loop to try to sell an idea isn't limited to product placement shots.
Silly humour is a way to sell something and buffer backlash in advancing an idea. It softens the blow of inundation of something that may have become more controversial, especially when considering it is directly aimed at children.
Robots are made to look humanoid for a reason, for one it's a marketing gimmick that has paid dividends but in self identifying with a technology it lubricates a transition to the technology being more widely accepted as an extension, or even a part of, ourselves.
Entertainment is a clever and highly effective way to pitch this. Whether it is intentional or not is up for debate but the influence this has on the target audience, in this case children, is too significant to dismiss outright.
You don't appear to acknowledge your own part in the above, in what I would describe as a typically British manner.
"To the Manor Born" was a long-running Brit sitcom which was exemplary in demonstrating the stratification of Britsoc. Any American can have a stab at being president, but for Brits the question never comes up. Any American knows that he shares his culture with every other American, but for Brits the question never surfaces.
It is quite apparent that the Pixar people are some of the intellectually sharpest people on the planet, by the way they have mastered the representation of both physical reality and interpersonal reactions and their cues. They are geared solely to produce product* - whatever that might be. They are, I'm sure, more capable of rapid adaptation than most other intellectual groups, and thus more ready and able to change disciplines as well. You infer these most clever and adaptable people are "system tools" and not individuals, with darker "controlling" forces hidden from view. Now there probably ARE those forces to a degree, but they boil down to short-term MONEY forces, not long-term anything. There ISN'T any long-term anything. If there were, we'd be fixing our POLLUTION first. These Pixar people lead very comfortable (and liberal) lives, without a doubt, and if their company were to piss them off with some hidden agenda they'd be working elsewhere the next day.
Quote:Non-humans are sentient beings.
Animals are sentient.
A sentient ANDROID would be sentient, BUT with a similar ability as you or I to experience and express reality**, achieved by a different route. If you were to kill it, it would be MURDER.
"Sentience" will be the watchword for "protection" in some future truly-civilized society.
Our present society has HYPOCRISY issues with RELIGION and MEAT-EATING which it MUST overcome to progress..
Quote:That is the central difference between Pixar’s universe and our current reality. That idea alone would suffice to show that Pixar films are all but propaganda for the concept of non-human personhood.
That interpretation possibly reveals your present immaturity, or you're sticking your neck out....
Quote:But that is where the hidden message
You see agency in everything...
An IMPLICIT fact need not be a HIDDEN fact.
Pixar's people are probably some of the FEW people in the world that have the ABILITY (if not the position) to PRECISELY DEAL WITH the human hypocrisies of pollution, religion, and meat-eating, and you set yourself up in opposition to THEM.
That's contrarian. Brilliant.
What you have hidden is that you don't feel part of THAT part of the intellectual creative world. Or is it implicit? 
*so much better than Disney's fascist/conservative stuff.
**but not the SAME, eh?
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05-20-2011, 01:34 PM,
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Mike_Smith
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RE: Transhumanism Predictive Programming - The Hidden Message in Pixar's Films
"These Pixar people lead very comfortable (and liberal) lives, without a doubt, and if their company were to piss them off with some hidden agenda they'd be working elsewhere the next day."
I dunno JR... or is that Dr. Michael Shermer? 
You've already agreed with me a couple years back that the media doesn't tell the truth all the time. Why aren't anchormen and women on TV news quitting or being fired in droves then? Surely being forced to bullshit the public day after day would get to them? Perhaps it's the GOOD PAY and FAME that corrupts? Either way it's propaganda, but my point is that your comment "they'd be working elsewhere the next day" doesn't even take simple corruption into consideration. If it doesn't fit your paradigm you just sweep it aside.
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04-19-2012, 03:47 AM,
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FastTadpole
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RE: Transhumanism Predictive Programming - The Hidden Message in Pixar's Films
Transhumanism shaped by cyberhumanism and chemical engineering the human body to (d)evolve the species.
Video: Lucy McRae: How can technology transform the human body? (~4 minutes)
http://www.ted.com/talks/lucy_mcrae_how_can_technology_transform_the_human_body.html
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I call myself a body architect. I trained in classical ballet and have a background in architecture and fashion. As a body architect, I fascinate with the human body and explore how I can transform it. I worked at Philips Electronics in the far-future design research lab, looking 20 years into the future. I explored the human skin, and how technology can transform the body. I worked on concepts like an electronic tattoo, which is augmented by touch, or dresses that blushed and shivered with light. I started my own experiments. These were the low-tech approaches to the high-tech conversations I was having. These are Q-tips stuck to my roommate with wig glue. (Laughter) I started a collaboration with a friend of mine, Bart Hess -- he doesn't normally look like this -- and we used ourselves as models. We transformed our apartments into our laboratories, and worked in a very spontaneous and immediate way. We were creating visual imagery provoking human evolution. Whilst I was at Philips, we discussed this idea of a maybe technology, something that wasn't either switched on or off, but in between. A maybe that could take the form of a gas or a liquid. And I became obsessed with this idea of blurring the perimeter of the body, so you couldn't see where the skin ended and the near environment started. I set up my studio in the red-light district and obsessively wrapped myself in plumbing tubing, and found a way to redefine the skin and create this dynamic textile. I was introduced to Robyn, the Swedish pop star, and she was also exploring how technology coexists with raw human emotion. And she talked about how technology with these new feathers, this new face paint, this punk, the way that we identify with the world, and we made this music video. I'm fascinated with the idea of what happens when you merge biology with technology, and I remember reading about this idea of being able to reprogram biology, in the future, away from disease and aging. And I thought about this concept of, imagine if we could reprogram our own body odor, modify and biologically enhance it, and how would that change the way that we communicate with each other? Or the way that we attract sexual partners? And would we revert back to being more like animals, more primal modes of communication? I worked with a synthetic biologist, and I created a swallowable perfume, which is a cosmetic pill that you eat and the fragrance comes out through the skin's surface when you perspire. It completely blows apart the way that perfume is, and provides a whole new format. It's perfume coming from the inside out. It redefines the role of skin, and our bodies become an atomizer. I've learned that there's no boundaries, and if I look at the evolution of my work i can see threads and connections that make sense. But when I look towards the future, the next project is completely unknown and wide open. I feel like I have all these ideas existing embedded inside of me, and it's these conversations and these experiences that connect these ideas, and they kind of instinctively come out. As a body architect, I've created this limitless and boundless platform for me to discover whatever I want. And I feel like I've just got started. So here's to another day at the office. (Laughter) (Applause) Thank you! Thank you!
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Transhumanism Predictive Programming - The Hidden Message in Pixar's Films
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