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Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
02-08-2011, 02:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-08-2011, 09:36 PM by Jewish4Liberty.)
#1
Exclamation  Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
Edit: a Poll has been added

Why are you only allowing private torrents (DHT and PEX disabled?)

When the Israelis ISPs are blocking access to trackers you'll get from your ISP faked data, such as:
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212.25.103.98:6890
212.25.103.116:6890
212.25.103.184:6890
212.25.103.102:6890
212.25.103.104:6890
212.25.103.180:6890
212.25.103.182:6890
212.25.103.164:6890
212.25.103.168:6890
212.25.103.162:6890
212.179.64.98:6890
212.179.64.100:6890
212.179.64.102:6890
212.179.64.104:6890
212.179.64.106:6890
212.179.64.116:6890
It most likely erroneous that IPs that are so similar will share the same torrent!
Read more about it ISP intervention with tracker communication ? (Page 1) / General / µTorrent Community Forums

I can't get connected to any tracker!
I can connect only with Proxy or SSH and I do not have the time to mess with Proxy and SSH routinely

I seeded, with the current machine that I'm using, more than ~730 GB in ~160 days
[Image: 2c394b1c5cb3b2d6912fb2c9627b3d12.png]

Currently, as I'm writing this, the tracker is not blocked
The block lasted all night long in Israel (more than 14 hours of blockade)

At that time, I could only seed with DHT + PEX (no worries, same speed, I'm seeding a lot of torrents)

PEX is equivalent to Local peer exchange and DHT is a completely trackerless method to get connected with others (the worst nightmare of governments) -- example: cablegate-201012100837.7z No trackers, at all, whatsoever!

All the trackers were blocked, not just ConCen, OBT PBT Sumo etc.
[Image: 544c1afc1e492035fb7a182bc0101475.png]

Please read the following article about DHT (the information that governments are frightened from) Busting Common Trackerless Torrent Myths | TorrentFreak Detailed information at BitTorrent’s Future? DHT, PEX and Magnet Links Explained | TorrentFreak

DHT is hard to block, if possible at all Wink
It'll be very hard and will cost a lot to the ISPs that will try that.

Why, if I may ask, do you accepting only private torrents (DHT&PEX disabled) aren't you against Internet censorship or are you?

Do you block DHT&PEX for credit purposes?
If so, it is kind of silly "we want people who seed to get what they deserve and we do not want others to leech and to give nothing back"
If it is so then it is very much the same as the reasons for anti-Gun-Right for a damn Gun-Control

Bottom line: I prefer to share a torrent from a non-private BitTorrent website that in ConCen

Special thank to FastTadpole of irc://irc.freenode.org/concen.org
Thank you for you attention, kindness, listening and time Smile
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02-08-2011, 03:40 PM,
#2
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
Yeti should be chiming in on this one when he gets out his short hibernation stasis. I'm sure it's not about blocking anyone. Here's our IRC transcript to dissect. Times are in MDT [GMT-7:00].

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[02:37] <Jewish4Liberty> I'm seeding many activism/conspiracy/anti-nwo etc. torrent from Israel and Israeli ISPs are blocking trackers
[02:37] <Jewish4Liberty> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=58932
[02:37] <Jewish4Liberty> They are failing to block DHT and PEX
[02:37] <Jewish4Liberty> I'm seeding with DHT and PEX
01[02:38] <@FastTadpole> so block DHT
01[02:38] <@FastTadpole> not sure on PEX
[02:38] <Jewish4Liberty> It won't help
01[02:38] <@FastTadpole> really you using a new version of UT
[02:38] <Jewish4Liberty> I can't get connected to the trackers (only with proxy or ssh)
[02:39] <Jewish4Liberty> I'm using Transmission on GNU/Linux
01[02:39] <@FastTadpole> beyond my skillz
[02:39] <Jewish4Liberty> Slackware, Salix OS, and Debian
01[02:39] <@FastTadpole> I'll PM yeti
01[02:39] <@FastTadpole> what is your exact error
[02:39] <Jewish4Liberty> Why are you only allowing private torrents (DHT and PEX disabled?)
01[02:39] <@FastTadpole> .. and is it from our tracker or your client
[02:39] <Jewish4Liberty> client
01[02:40] <@FastTadpole> we aren't I've never had the issue on our end
[02:40] <Jewish4Liberty> Actually, from the ISP, the ISP is faking data
01[02:40] <@FastTadpole> I seed / leech / upload torrents
01[02:40] <@FastTadpole> oh yeah we ban spoofs
01[02:40] <@FastTadpole> is your reporting IP being changed by the proxy?
01[02:41] <@FastTadpole> it needs to match your login hash coed
01[02:41] <@FastTadpole> code*
[02:41] <Jewish4Liberty> Yes, but I do not have the time to mess with Proxy and SSH
[02:41] <Jewish4Liberty> I'm doing other stuff too
01[02:41] <@FastTadpole> eg http://concen.org/announce?passkey=0b7af9d59axxxxxx
[02:42] <Jewish4Liberty> I seeded more than ~730 GB in ~160 days
01[02:42] <@FastTadpole> this is registered with your IP so it needs to be the same or you are blocked
01[02:42] <@FastTadpole> so did this happen all of a sudden?
[02:42] <Jewish4Liberty> Now the tracker is not blocked
01[02:42] <@FastTadpole> if so when
[02:42] <Jewish4Liberty> but it was all night long at Israel
01[02:42] <@FastTadpole> Yeti is messing with code -- so it may be intermittant
01[02:42] <@FastTadpole> :L
[02:42] <Jewish4Liberty> more than 14 hours of blockade
[02:43] <Jewish4Liberty> I could only seed with DHT + PEX
01[02:43] <@FastTadpole> Yeah they're losing their puppet in Egypt
[02:43] <Jewish4Liberty> I prefer to share a torrent from a non-private bittorrent website that in ConCen
01[02:43] <@FastTadpole> PEX that's equivalent to Local peer exchange right
[02:43] <Jewish4Liberty> Yes
01[02:43] <@FastTadpole> oh ok I'm caught up with the lingo now
[02:44] <Jewish4Liberty> and DHT is trackerless method to get connected with others (the worst nightmare of governments)
01[02:44] <@FastTadpole> we do run an IP blacklist for .gov IP blocks and some other ranges maybe you were routed there somehow
01[02:44] <@FastTadpole> or maybe yeti was messing with something
[02:44] <Jewish4Liberty> nah!
[02:44] <Jewish4Liberty> no, it was ALL trackers!
[02:44] <Jewish4Liberty> not just conncen
[02:45] <Jewish4Liberty> OBT PBT Sumo etc. < all were blocked!
[02:45] <Jewish4Liberty> by a FUCKING ZIONIST ISRAELI ISP
01[02:45] <@FastTadpole> Ok give a report of just the facts (error logs, duration, symptoms) and whether it is resolved now
01[02:46] <@FastTadpole> Yeah they were probably doing a test killswitch for certain blacklist sites
01[02:46] <@FastTadpole> you Know this sh*t is coming man
[02:46] <Jewish4Liberty> Please read http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrents-future-dht-pex-and-magnet-links-explained-091120/
[02:46] <Jewish4Liberty> DHT will save us :)
[02:47] <Jewish4Liberty> DHT is hard to block, if possible at all ;)
01[02:47] <@FastTadpole> yeah that or ip based trackers or i2p as opposed to p2p
[02:47] <Jewish4Liberty> It'll coast too much
01[02:47] <@FastTadpole> DHT is about equal to an i2p model
[02:47] <Jewish4Liberty> It's very complexed
01[02:47] <@FastTadpole> yeah I've just scrathced the surface on the theoretical on that front
01[02:48] <@FastTadpole> send the report to tracker@conce.org -- append this chat log as well
[02:48] <Jewish4Liberty> Why, if I may ask, do you accepting only private torrents (DHT&PEX disabled) aren't you against Internet censorship?
01[02:48] <@FastTadpole> tracker@concen.org *
[02:48] <Jewish4Liberty> thanks
01[02:49] <@FastTadpole> I don't have that issue from here in Canada on my ISP with ConCen
[02:49] <Jewish4Liberty> I was not just ConCen for me
01[02:49] <@FastTadpole> Really I doubt it's our block
[02:49] <Jewish4Liberty> it is not ConCen
01[02:49] <@FastTadpole> well that means there's surely more to it
[02:49] <Jewish4Liberty> it is blocked withing the torrent
01[02:50] <@FastTadpole> well if the protocol can be throttled - it can be blocked
[02:50] <Jewish4Liberty> It'll be very hard and will cost a lot to the ISP that will try that
01[02:50] <@FastTadpole> There are a lot of blocking tactics being tested now, US and AUS tried one and China's always at it
01[02:51] <@FastTadpole> esp. with the Impending ACTA laws they are ramping up detection and enforcement - I've kept on top of the docs best I can for the past 5 years
01[02:52] <@FastTadpole> The public is being ignored and strawman consultants are being propped up as the 'public' view here in Canada
01[02:52] <@FastTadpole> Thanks for reporting.. you going to post about this on the Forum?
[02:53] <Jewish4Liberty> No
01[02:53] <@FastTadpole> it's make a good report. I encourage you to do so. Maybe others will join you in combating the problem
01[02:53] <@FastTadpole> well thatnks for the heads up .. let me know if you hear of anyone else having the same or similar issues
[02:53] <Jewish4Liberty> Ok
[02:54] <Jewish4Liberty> May I copy the chat between you and me?
01[02:54] <@FastTadpole> I've got it logged -- it's fine by me my good man
There are no others, there is only us.
http://FastTadpole.com/
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02-08-2011, 08:26 PM,
#3
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
A good point is made there though, DHT IS very hard to block. Even when creating Private Torrents (which I do as other trackers can't be used anyway), I still get DHT connections from peers not connected to the tracker. Granted, not as much as if I switch off DHT, Peer Exchange and Local Peer Discovery, but there are still connections every so often.

So maybe having DHT switched on always would be a good thing to ensure blocking cannot occur.

But most don't have DHT switched off when they upload a .torrent to concen, so you should have been getting some connections at least on the majority of Concen torrents.

For example, I am currently one of two seeders on the 'Comparative Religion' torrent. Only one leecher is connected through the tracker, but two are showing up, one through DHT.
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02-08-2011, 09:39 PM,
#4
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
Damn it! I've added a poll but 'Yes' should be 'For' and 'No' should be 'Against' =\
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02-08-2011, 09:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-09-2011, 09:18 AM by yeti.)
#5
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
What's the point in putting up this poll?

Maybe I should put up a poll asking what the chances are that I'm going to make a fundamental change to the site at the request of somebody who shows up out of nowhere and makes a post whining about how he's being blocked by his ISP because he refuses to turn on encryption.
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02-08-2011, 09:58 PM,
#6
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
(02-08-2011, 09:51 PM)yeti Wrote: What's the point in putting up this poll?

Maybe I should put up a poll asking what the chances are that I'm going to make a fundamental change to the site because somebody shows up out of nowhere and makes a post whining about how he's being blocked by his ISP but refuses to turn on encryption.

Then please delete it Wink
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02-09-2011, 06:47 AM,
#7
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
(02-08-2011, 09:58 PM)Jewish4Liberty Wrote: Then please delete it Wink

Request Granted
There are no others, there is only us.
http://FastTadpole.com/
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02-09-2011, 08:51 PM,
#8
RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
(02-08-2011, 09:51 PM)yeti Wrote: Maybe I should put up a poll asking what the chances are that I'm going to make a fundamental change to the site at the request of somebody who shows up out of nowhere and makes a post whining about how he's being blocked by his ISP because he refuses to turn on encryption.

Because I'm inside the Matrix Tongue (I'm out in 5 to 15 years!)
Don't you want the people in my place to know the truth about what Zionism really is?

The Khazarian Conspiracy
SHA1 Hash: 5a1d0a5ecf51ea1a7fb85fe618be6b9003ae738a

Most people in Israel think that Zionism is good (they are not researching at all, screw them)
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02-09-2011, 09:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-09-2011, 09:34 PM by yeti.)
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RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
(02-09-2011, 08:51 PM)Jewish4Liberty Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 09:51 PM)yeti Wrote: Maybe I should put up a poll asking what the chances are that I'm going to make a fundamental change to the site at the request of somebody who shows up out of nowhere and makes a post whining about how he's being blocked by his ISP because he refuses to turn on encryption.
Because I'm inside the Matrix Tongue (I'm out in 5 to 15 years!)
Don't you want the people in my place to know the truth about what Zionism really is?

So turn on encryption then. Switch to Deluge too - Transmission is crap.

[Image: randquote.png]
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02-10-2011, 08:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2011, 08:55 PM by Jewish4Liberty.)
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RE: Private torrents DHT & PEX disabled
The blockade on trackers by the Israeli ISPs is roughly a 14 hours period each day.
Some of the ISPs are also faking data (peers that does not exist) http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=58932
Encryption is always on.

It has nothing to do with Transmission.

P.s. the torrent "The Khazarian Conspiracy" was fully downloaded.
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