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Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
01-05-2011, 05:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-05-2011, 05:12 PM by SiLVa.)
Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
His name is John P. Wheeler III
Please add any more info you can find on this guy.

Quote:Former Reagan, Bush official killed, police say
Body of John Wheeler was found as garbage truck emptied contents at landfill

DOVER, Delaware — The body of a military expert who served in three Republican administrations was found dumped in a landfill over the New Year's weekend, and investigators said Monday they do not know who might have killed him.

Authorities say John Wheeler III, 66, was scheduled to be on an Amtrak train from Washington to Wilmington on Dec. 28. Police say it's now not clear if he ever made that trip. His body was found three days later, on New Year's Eve, as a garbage truck emptied its contents at the Cherry Island landfill. His death has been ruled a homicide.

Wheeler, who served as an Army staff officer in Vietnam, later worked in the Reagan and both Bush administrations and helped lead efforts to build the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wall in Washington. He also was the second chairman and chief executive officer of Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

His body was discovered Dec. 31 as a waste management truck emptied its contents at the Wilmington-area landfill. His death has been ruled a homicide.

Police have determined that all the stops made by the garbage truck on Friday before it arrived at the landfill involved commercial disposal bins in Newark, several miles from Wheeler's home in the historic district of New Castle.

Newark, Del. police spokesman Lt. Mark Farrall said investigators had been to Wheelers' house, which was roped off with police tape after his death, but that it could not be considered a crime scene.

"We don't have a crime scene at this point in time," said Farrall, adding that investigators still do not have any leads in the case.

Farrall said initial police reports that Wheeler was last seen getting off an Amtrak train in Wilmington last Tuesday were incorrect.

"The information that we have is that he was scheduled to take a train from Washington, D.C., to Newark on the 28th. We don't know if that occurred," Farrall said, adding that investigators don't know how long Wheeler might have been missing before his body was found, or where and when he was last seen.

Asked why Wheeler had not been reported missing, Farrall said the family was not in town at the time.

"That's why there was some delay in notification," he explained.

A graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, Wheeler went on to study at Harvard Business School and Yale Law School.

Richard Radez, a longtime friend who also graduated from West Point and Harvard Business, said he exchanged e-mails with Wheeler on Christmas. On the day after Christmas, Wheeler sent Radez an e-mail expressing concern that the nation wasn't sufficiently prepared for cyber warfare.

"This was something that had preoccupied him over the last couple of years," Radez said.

James Fallows, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, wrote in an article on the magazine's website that he had known "Jack" Wheeler since the early 1980s. A photo on the website shows a youthful, businesslike Wheeler in a dress shirt, tie and suspenders, in front of a map.

Wheeler, Fallows wrote, had spent much of his life trying to address "what he called the '40 year open wound' of Vietnam-era soldiers being spurned by the society that sent them to war."

Fallows told The Associated Press that Wheeler had been focused recently on getting ROTC programs restored at prestigious universities such as Harvard and Stanford.

He also exchanged e-mails with Wheeler over Christmas, and said Wheeler was concerned about the separation of the military and educational institutions that stemmed from the Vietnam War and continued through the debate over the "don't ask, don't tell" policy preventing gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.

With the recent Senate vote to end "don't ask, don't tell," Wheeler saw no further impediments to restoring ROTC programs on college campuses, Fallows said.

The son of a decorated Army officer, Wheeler followed in his father's footsteps at West Point. His military career included serving in the office of the Secretary of Defense and writing a manual on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons, which recommended that the United States not use biological weapons.

Author Rick Atkinson, whose 1989 book "The Long Gray Line" featured Wheeler as a prominent member of West Point's Class of 1966, called him an extraordinarily intelligent and intense man who relentlessly pursued causes.

"Some of his pursuits were quixotic but others were magnificent," Atkinson said, citing the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as Wheeler's greatest achievement. He said the monument wouldn't exist had Wheeler not used his organizational skills to steer the project through a brutal political fight.

Wheeler retired from the military in 1971, and went on to serve in the administrations of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, including at the Securities and Exchange Commission. He also was a special assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force under President George W. Bush. He recently worked as a consultant for The Mitre Corporation, a nonprofit based in Bedford, Mass., and McLean, Va., that operates federally funded research and development centers.

"He was just not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill," said Bayard Marin, an attorney who was representing Wheeler and his wife, Katherine Klyce, in an ongoing legal dispute with a couple wanting to build a home near the Wheelers' in the historic district.

"He was a very aggressive kind of guy, but nevertheless kind of ingratiating, and he had a good sense of humor," Marin said.

Telephone messages left for Klyce at the couple's New Castle home were not immediately returned Monday. Attempts to reach Klyce at the couple's New York City apartment were not successful.


Associated Press writers Sarah Brumfield in Washington and David Dishneau in Hagerstown, Md., contributed to this story.
Im not a fan of Michael Savage all that much but he provides some pretty good info in this clip I found.
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01-06-2011, 12:15 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
So.. Russia and Iran are getting blamed for this guy's death and Russia and China for the bird deaths with some sort of scalar technology. Can't wait for more stuff to come out in the next couple days, hopefully.
01-06-2011, 12:32 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Where did you hear that? Is that what the mainstream media is saying? Got any links you could post?
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01-06-2011, 12:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-06-2011, 12:58 AM by Nokturnal.)
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Just a lot of comments under alt. news sites and other conspiracy forums. Mostly neocons as seen here.

Quote:Wheeler was currently serving as a consultant for MITRE Corporation which held DoD contracts and facilitates many DoD projects. His extensive career in weapons systems and cyber security, mixed with consulting with and for Department of Defence projects could point to Russia and the STARTreaty, or Iran and the recent cyber attack via the Stuxnet virus.

01-06-2011, 01:53 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Most complete report aggregation I've found to date by Veteran's Today with the help local sources, research and Cryptogon journalists.

Quote:John P Wheeler III: Former Special Asst to Air Force Sec, Member of Council on Foreign Relations, Consultant to Mitre Corporation Found Dumped in Landfill
January 3, 2011 posted by Michael Leon

What was John P Wheeler III doing at the Mitre Corporation? And why was he found dead New Year’s Eve at the Cherry Island Landfill?

Editor’s note: This may be the suspicious death of all time. I will be looking for clues over the next few days. Those of you, you know who you are, get me what I need to make this right. g

A four page bio on John P Wheeler III is currently available at Second Line of Defense (PDF)
.pdf   John-Wheeler-Bio.pdf (Size: 139.13 KB / Downloads: 56)

Update: Cryptogon reports Mitre Corp won’t say what Mr. Wheeler was doing there. He is described as a “consultant.”

Via Delaware Online and Cryptogon^. See also James Fallows’ piece at The Atlantic.

Newark police have identified the body discovered on New Year’s Eve at the Cherry Island Landfill as 66-year-old John P. Wheeler of New Castle.

Wheeler, who lived part time in Old New Castle, worked as a defense consultant and had a long and decorated military career that involved working in the Reagan and George W. Bush administrations.

Wheeler also served as chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, which built the wall in Washington, D.C.

His death has been ruled a homicide.

Newark police have had a crime scene unit at Wheeler’s home at 108 West Third St. in Old New Castle all day today, with crime-scene tape roping off the prominent three-story brick home with black shutters.

Friends and neighbors were shocked to learn Wheeler had been murdered.

“This is just not the kind of guy who gets murdered,” said Bayard Marin, a Wilmington attorney who represented Wheeler. “This is not the kind of guy you find in a landfill.”

Wheeler worked in Washington, D.C. and investigators have determined he was on an Amtrak train from Washington to Wilmington on Tuesday, said Newark police Lt. Mark Farrall.

“The last place they can put him is getting off the Amtrak train in Wilmington,” Farrall said.

The MITRE Corporation is described on its website as a ”trusted adviser to the U.S. military, MITRE’s Defense International Operations program also develops command and control and engineering solutions for NATO members and other U.S. allies.”

October 2009

John Wheeler is a defense consultant. He served as the Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. from 2005-2008, when he became the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment. His mission was to carry out tasks and monitor programs in support of goals as directed, and support the Air Force Secretariat with data gathering, team organization, liaison, analysis and/or options for action. Principal tasks included standing up Cyberspace Forces and placing Precision Strike technology and Real Time Streaming Video targeting links into the hands of groundfighters in combat.

Mr. Wheeler graduated from West Point in 1966, serving as a staff officer in Vietnam, the Office of the Secretary of Defense, and the Joint Staff before leaving active service in 1971. While on active duty, he authored the first Biological and Chemical Joint Munitions Effectiveness Manual and the analysis supporting the President’s decision that the U.S. will not use biologicals. He was also on the Red Integrated Strategic Operational Plan Team to test the Single Integrated Operational Plan. His career combines federal service and starting up, growing and turning around companies and charities. He was Secretary, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, on the team that worked major insider trader investigations, and consultant to the acting Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics regarding tankers and other issues.

For President Reagan, he created the Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program, linking successful veterans with veterans needing jobs. For President G.H.W. Bush, he created the Earth Conservation Corps for at-risk youth.

He was Chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, which built the Wall, and first Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, which led the 40 percent reduction in drunk driving casualties as of 2005.

He has also served as Special Counsel to the Chairman and CEO for the turnaround of Macy’s, and he helped launch charities including the Jed Foundation to prevent college suicides, Support Our Aging Religious, and the Deafness Research Foundation’s National Campaign for Hearing Health to end deafness with cochlear implants for children.


For computer-based readers, these clicks illustrate the main work undertaken by Mr. Wheeler since 2005 :

1. Precision Strike and Video Links for Groundfighters:
2. Establishing Cyber Warfighting Capability:
3. Joint Warfighting:


1966 Distinguished graduate, Bachelor of Science degree, U.S. Military Academy, West Point, N.Y.
1969 Master of Business Administration degree, with distinction, Harvard Business School, Cambridge, Mass.
1975 Juris Doctor, Yale Law School, New Haven, Conn.


1. 1966 – 1967, fire control platoon leader, nuclear Nike Hercules site, Franklin Lakes, N.J.
2. 1967 – 1969, graduate student, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass. (summer 1968, systems analyst (Strategic Programs), Office of the Secretary of Defense, Washington, D.C.)
3. 1969 – 1970, member of the General Staff, Headquarters U.S. Army Vietnam, Long Binh, Vietnam
4. 1970 – 1971, staff officer, Joint Staff, the Pentagon, Washington, D.C.
5. 1971 – 1972, senior planner, Amtrak, Washington, D.C.
6. 1972 – 1975, law student, Yale University, New Haven, Conn.
7. 1975 – 1976, law clerk, George E. MacKinnon, U.S. Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit
8. 1976 – 1978, Associate, Shea and Gardner Law Firm, Washington, D.C.
9. 1978 – 1986, Assistant General Counsel, Special Counsel to Chairman, and Secretary, Securities and Exchange Commission, Washington, D.C. (1980 – 1981, on loan per President Reagan to create Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program)
10. 1986 – 1988, self-employed specialist in startups and turnarounds of companies, charities
11. 1988 – 1989, President G.H.W. Bush Transition Team to create Earth Conservation Corps, Washington, D.C.
12. 1989 – 1997, self-employed specialist in startups and turnarounds of companies, charities
13. 1997 – 2001, President and CEO, Deafness Research Foundation, Washington, D.C.
14. 2001 – 2005, self-employed specialist in startups and turnarounds of companies, charities (2004 – 2005, consultant to acting Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, Washington, D.C.)
15. 2005 – 2008, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C.
16. 2008-2009 Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Energy.
17. 2009. Consultant to Mitre Corporation.


Air Force Exceptional Civilian Service Award with Bronze Device
Joint Service Commendation Medal
U.S. Representative, Pew Foundation, British American Project


Law Journal Officer and Note Editor, Yale Law School
Languages: Fluent Spanish
1979 – 1989, Chairman, Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund
1983 – 1987, Chairman and CEO, Mothers Against Drunk Driving
1993 – present, created, then CEO Vietnam Children’s Fund


District of Columbia Bar; Council on Foreign Relations


Conceived, and contributor to, The Wounded Generation: America After Vietnam, Prentice-Hall, 1981
Touched With Fire: The Future of the Vietnam Generation, Franklin Watts, 1984, and Avon paperback, 1985
A variety of opinion articles, broadcast and cable commentary.
Citation for Air Force Exceptional Civilian Service Award, 2008:


Mr. John P. Wheeler distinguished himself by exceptionally meritorious service to the United States as the Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, the Pentagon, Washington, District of Columbia, from 3 November 2005 to 20 June 2008. During this period, Mr. Wheeler’s unwavering integrity, devotion to duty and steadfast leadership led to a number of successful initiatives across the Air Force.

Grasping the growing vulnerability of our weapon systems to Cyber intrusions, he worked tirelessly to drive the activation of Air Force Cyber Command. His visionary efforts were instrumental in the creation of the Cyber Research Center at the Air Force Institute of Technology; the first two graduates of the United States Air Force Academy to enter the Air Force Institute of Technology Cyber Master’s Program; the stand-up of the Air Force Cyber School; and an increased emphasis on Air Force recruitment efforts for officers and enlisted for Cyber careers.

His seasoned experience and knowledge proved invaluable as he helped formulate advice on initiatives such as Joint Basing, Recapitalization, ROVER precision strike data for Army and Marine troops, Acquisition, and a myriad of legislative initiatives facing the Air Force.

His day-to-day interactions with the Office of the Secretary of Defense enhanced relations and ensured streamlined timely responses. The singularly distinctive accomplishments of Mr. Wheeler in the dedication of service to his Country reflect great credit upon himself and the United States Air Force.


Research Credit: Matt

Be sure to check out the comments section on this one too.
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01-06-2011, 02:23 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Thanks, the comment section is definately some good stuff.
01-06-2011, 03:30 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Quote:Be sure to check out the comments section on this one too.

(01-06-2011, 02:23 AM)Nokturnal Wrote: Thanks, the comment section is definately some good stuff.

Indeed. Here's an attached PDF archive copy of the comments approved by moderation as of this instant from the article.

.pdf (Size: 111.85 KB / Downloads: 84)
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01-06-2011, 06:58 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
SEC connections mean he could stumble on knowledge of financial false flag operations and his Mitre Corp. connections mean he could stumble on knowledge of the 9/11 false flag operation.

A man seemingly with conscience with too much access to information.
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01-07-2011, 07:57 AM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
This is all based on a GRU report. The Glavnoye Razvedyvatelnoye Upravleniye (ГРУ, Russian for "Main Intelligence Directorate") is a Russian military intelligence organization (in existence since 1918) ~wiki.

I can't find this document anywhere in any language and the US report it refers to is unnamed and obscure. I contact ed the SVR but no replies yet - have a shot yourself if you wish*. I've been trying to contact the Canadian Embassy in Russia to get them to contact the GRU (but they are on Holiday).

*Contact information (country Code is 7):

Tel: (499) 245-3368, (499) 255-7938
Fax: (499) 255-2529

The EU Times is very anti-American in its reporting - like Wikileaks or Russia Today (RT) and there is likely the taint of propaganda on this story. It seems to fit a plausible explanation and he has bloodlines dating back pretty far and deep in the heights of power, particularly in the Military and in Politics (search: Wheeler).

Quote:Was John Wheeler's Murder Connected to Bird Deaths in Arkansas?
Wednesday, January 5, 2011

Update at 6:40, central time, on 1/5/11: A trusted source tells us that the European Union Times (EU Times), from which the following story came, is a neo-Nazi publication that probably is not to be trusted on the John P. Wheeler III murder story.

EU Times has a slick-looking Web site, and on its "About" page, it claims to be "an international newspaper based in Europe with operational branches in America and Canada. Our online edition of The European Union Times (also known as The EU Times) is constantly updated to bring you the top news stories from around the world." That sounds legit, and it fooled us the first time around.

But upon closer review, you see a regular diet of anti-Zionist pieces, such as one titled "If Obama Could Put America's Own Real Interests First." That piece includes this:

The headline is not meant to imply that I think he will. As things are he can’t because of the stranglehold on American policy for Israel/Palestine of the Zionist lobby and its stooges in Congress, the mainstream media and many institutions of state including the Pentagon and intelligence agencies. My purpose is only to offer an answer to this question: What could happen if President Obama was able to put America’s own real interests first?

Is it possible that John P. Wheeler's murder is connected to the bird deaths in Arkansas? It might be. Is the EU Times a reliable source of information on the subject? I don't think so. The Wheeler/birds story is spreading rapidly on the Web, and we regret being part of that process. We will continue to follow the Wheeler story.

The murder of a former Bush-administration official, his body dumped in a Delaware landfill, is connected to the recent deaths of black birds in Arkansas, according to a report in the European Union Times (EU Times).

Citing a report prepared for Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, EU Times says John P. Wheeler was murdered after he threatened to expose that the bird deaths were caused by an accidental spraying of a poisonous gas from a U.S. military plane. The report states that the U.S. has been storing an estimated 63,000 metric tons of Phosgene, which had been removed from Iraq, at an arsenal in Pine Bluff, Arkansas.

The lethal gas was being transported on a U.S. Air Force tanker when a malfunction caused the gas to spray, leading to the bird deaths. Wheeler traveled from his Delaware home to Washington, D.C., to confront Pentagon and White House officials who were responsible for the incident, the report says. A short time later, his body was discovered in a landfill near Wilmington, Delaware.

Reports the EU Times:

To the direct reason for Wheeler’s murder, this report says, was this past week’s transport of Iraqi Phosgene poisonous gas aboard a US Air Force KC-767 tanker aircraft from Little Rock Air Force Base en route to Afghanistan that shortly after takeoff had a ‘critical malfunction’ of its aerial spraying computer directed command and control system over central Arkansas causing the deaths of thousands of red-wing blackbirds.

According to US reports an estimated 4,000 of these birds were killed outright and were quickly removed by US Environmental Services workers wearing hazmat suits and gas masks. Another US report states that cause of death to these thousands of birds was “trauma in the breast tissue, with blood clots in the body cavity and a lot of internal bleeding” which this GRU report states is consistent with Phosgene exposure.

Poisonous gas also was responsible for a massive fish kill recently on the Arkansas River, the report says:

Even more chilling than this incident is this GRU report stating that it was the second “accidental” release of Phosgene poisonous gas in as many days, as the day before, this same US Air Force KC-767 tanker aircraft also had a “critical malfunction” causing a release over the Arkansas River that killed over 100,000 fish.

As we reported in a recent post, Wheeler had extensive experience with aerospace technology and logistics, especially with tankers. EU Times reports that Wheeler also had vast knowledge of biological and chemical weapons and became outraged when he learned about the problems in Arkansas:

Upon Wheeler discovering what was happening with Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpiles, this report continues, he traveled from his home in Delaware to Washington D.C. where he openly confronted and threatened to expose the Pentagon and White House Officials responsible. Being a Vietnam Veteran who was responsible for having the famous memorial to that war erected, Wheeler was more than knowledgeable about the United States massive chemical and biological attacks in that conflict and had vowed to not let happen again.

Sadly, but all too common in the United States these days, when Wheeler threatened to go public with what was happening he was targeted for death, and as a “sign” to anyone else thinking of going against the regime, had his body dumped in a garbage pit for all the World to see.


Who Was John Wheeler? CFR, MITRE Corp.; More than a dead body

Massive Black Bird and Fish Deaths happening in Louisiana, Maryland, Brazil, Sweden and Worldwide
Arkansas fish story linked within

The main point I'm trying to figure out is the presence of Phosgene gas (wherever it was from will be shrouded in mystery) and if so why did it not effect other species, or did it?
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01-07-2011, 12:19 PM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Phosgene Russian: фосген

Quote:State declarations: Possessed the world’s largest chemical weapons stockpile: 40,000 metric tons of chemical agent, including VX, sarin, soman, mustard, lewisite, mustard-lewisite mixtures, and phosgene.

So the only mention of phosgene stockpiles is attributed to Russia in the and it goes on to say..

Quote:Russia has declared this to the OPCW and has commenced destruction. As of December 2009, 21,500 metric tons of chemical agents remained undestroyed. Russian sources said it was unlikely that they would meet the 2012 deadline, with 2015 being more realistic. [Citation 4: Russia Revises Chemical Arms Deadline]

Allegations: The U.S. has some reservations about Russian compliance, as expressed in the 2010 report which states “The United States is unable to ascertain whether Russia’s CWC declaration is complete.”

Potential delivery systems: include artillery, bombs, spray tanks, and short-range ballistic missiles.

Relatively phosgene is not a difficult CW to produce and the OCW does not require disclosure of smaller amounts (<30 metric tonnes) of phosgene production. It can exist as a liquid or as a gas.

Quote:Toxicity and Declaration Disclosure

It is listed on schedule 3 of the Chemical Weapons Convention: All production sites manufacturing more than 30 tonnes per year must be declared to the OPCW.[4] Although less dangerous than many other chemical weapons, such as sarin, phosgene is still regarded as a viable chemical warfare agent because it is so easy to manufacture when compared to the production requirements of more technically advanced chemical weapons such as the first-generation nerve agent tabun.


Phosgene is an insidious poison as the odor may not be noticed and symptoms may be slow to appear.[13] Phosgene can be detected at 0.4 ppm, which is four times the Threshold Limit Value. Its high toxicity arises by the action of the phosgene on the proteins in the pulmonary alveoli, which are the site of gas exchange: Their damage disrupts the blood-air barrier, causing suffocation. It reacts with the amines of the proteins, causing crosslinking via formation of urea-like linkages, in accord with the reactions discussed above. Phosgene detection badges are worn by those at risk of exposure.[2]

Sodium bicarbonate may be used to neutralise liquid spills of phosgene. Gaseous spills may be mitigated with ammonia.[14]

Consistent with the birds' death although the concentration must have been high considering the area the corpses were laid to rest.

The entire CIA Iraq report on Iraqi WMDs including Chemical Weapons is available here:

Iraq's Chemical Warfare Program: Comprehensive Report of the Special Adviser to the DCI on Iraq's WMD (September 2004)

Pertinent to it's discovered stores of CW munitions refer to this document.

Detailed Preliminary Assessment of Chemical Weapons Findings [edit: omitted this link in first draft]

As of yet there have been trace residue of the much more deadly sarin gas and degraded mustard gas and unknown chemical substances which have yet to be catalogued disposed of. I have turned up no reports of phosgene stockpiles or even a trace in my research so far but many facilities were looted or under lax security protocols.

Source: (see page 23 for facilities and looting reports).

Bear mind the source (CIA). Phosgene was used extensively in WWI and during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). In 2008 70 year old phosgene munitions were discovered in a Queensland, Australia military cache. There is no way to directly link this unless there is some sort of isotope or chemical signature that persists on site or derived by an autopsy of the dead animals.

I'm still scratching my head as to why or if it was contained to one species of fish and/or the bird deaths are related according to the GRU report. If it was phosgene the most likely source, not necessarily the initiatives, would look to Russia - unless some intelligence agency / propaganda machine does a very good job of getting all eyes to look somewhere else on this one -.o.

If anyone can dig that up we'd all be grateful. I'm waiting to hear back / from some inquiries and get through to some sources.
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01-07-2011, 05:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-07-2011, 05:48 PM by SiLVa.)
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
Nice FT, you got a good collection of leads to go on.
I just saw that EU Times article the yesterday, only it I saw it where was actually first published on the same site as all those BS Sorcha Faal stories and I think he/she wrote that one as well. I cant confirm any of it so I didnt want to post it just yet but I guess it does provide some direction in which to look.

I do think Savage brings up a good point in that a witness remembers seeing Wheeler in the vicinity of the U.S. Justice Department offices, and is not far off in the speculation that if he was going to report on something he thought was going on, then that wouldve naturally been the place he wouldve gone to expose a possible plot.
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01-07-2011, 06:33 PM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
im interested to know, did he write any books?

It seems odd that a man with such a carreer would be without a memoirs.

if he hasnt.......i have a suspician this may be the relating factor.

A man seemingly with conscience with too much access to information. never good in a book.

01-27-2011, 09:50 PM,
RE: Mysterious Murder of Former Pentagon official
I have never really found an copy of the GRU reports despite repeated attempts to find them and get hold of Russian Intelligence.

My calls were met with neither man nor machine. I tried calling the Canadian Embassy in Russia but they were of no assistance.

I can't verify the reports on the phosgene were real at this time and if they were the source was a Russian Intelligence agency.

Phosgene could have been produced pretty much anywhere but the first look to a source would be to the massive Russian stockpiles of the weaponized substance.

The official reports on the bird deaths seem plausible (sounds and light from fireworks and/or a storm directly in a massive swarm of redwing blackbirds caused collisions) but information on that is also very limited and the investigation is tightly controlled by a small circle.

The fish (and other mass) deaths could have been for a variety of reasons and any report on my part would be predominantly speculative in nature.

but to join the speculation frenzy..

Massive Black Bird and Fish Deaths happening in Louisiana, Maryland, Brazil, Sweden and Worldwide
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