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Christ and Krishna
12-03-2007, 10:45 AM,
Christ and Krishna
"Jesus Christ was such a great personality-the son of God, the representative of God. Of course, the message that Christ preached was just according to his particular time, place, and country, and just suited for a particular group of people.
He had no fault. Still, he was crucified. He wanted to deliver God consciousness, but in return they crucified him-they were so thankless. They could not appreciate his preaching. But we appreciate him and give him all honor as the representative of God.
12-03-2007, 01:14 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Krishna - Kristna - Christ.
12-03-2007, 06:20 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Christ was not supposed to be worshiped as a deity, a guru, but was life itself, born in the flesh, to communicate the nature and will of life itself. Which is in fact what we are all supposed to be a host to. An internal relation, with observable cause and effect laws evident in chemistry. What is life itself, such a simple concept all are blind to see. Wake up.
12-03-2007, 06:57 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Did you read the article? Krishna is not a deity or a guru. He is the force= the supreme being=God.
There is little information about God in the Bible.

Every church Ive been in has a painting of Christ. In Greek Churches people actually kiss the paintings of him Is that not worship?

Follow his teachings then, and take the log out of your own eye before pointing out the splinters in others.....

Were all those born before the new testament was written wretched souls then? He was a strong man, an assasinated prophet and yet those who have taken over the Church make him out to be meek and mild and a victim.
Jesus was born in stable, he was an activist who preached peace and love. I have much respect for him.
12-03-2007, 07:19 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Na, your seeing in terms of the programming, all religions to be joined, there is a fundamental difference, more then a force. Its so simple yet the words ignored, drawing on preconceived notions and biases which hide the truth.

An internal relation, with observable cause and effect laws evident in chemistry. What is life itself, such a simple concept, all are blind to see. Wake up.

Its not a riddle, or perception, or some metaphysical unseen concept. And no other religions are saying, what is so clearly said in the Bible, so clearly seen in chemistry, a root factor governing all.

It was not born in the new testament, but is what gave breath to life itself. It was manifested in the flesh in the new testament, that is life itself was born, to communicate and show the will of life itself. We are a host to in a clearly observed, literally speaking manner, no leap of faith needed.

Remember how smart we all thought we were, we all thought we knew the world, the picture painted in childhood and youth, then when the truth of the true nature of the world was shown, a shocking realization that all tho, it had always been right in front of us, we did not see, and all was so clearly evident, however we were trapped in what we thought we already knew, that is the world we saw was actually a veil covering, hiding the truth. As most still are within this veil. This will happen again if you let it, as another truth is hidden, hijacked by changed perception of terms, the joining of all religions that is, with the real intent to obscure a simple truth, all becoming prideful in the new found wisdom, not aware it actually be programming to hide a fundamental truth. The Elites, or those that worship the snake eatings it own tail, deny a host relation consciously, opting to be there own gods, the world being a manifestation of there fundamenetal disorder. The story told within chemistry if one has the eyes to see, independent of mans manipulations or perceptions of logic, just needing only to observe.
12-03-2007, 07:31 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Inc, you are very entertaining.
But im afraid you speak in a riddle like way.

Religions are man made. The word 'religion' doesnt appear in the Bhagvad Gita, the Koran or the Bible.
Its from the Greek meaning ' union with God'
Thats what all these scriptures are meant to be promoting.
This is a paradox.
God is all eternal and all powerful. More powerful than all the chemicals in the universe s and before anyone bothered to write it down on paper...
12-03-2007, 07:44 PM,
Christ and Krishna
I am certainly not into a damaging globalisation or one world new world order religion instructed and ordered onto us, by the way.
But like gold there is no muslim gold, hindu gold or buddhist gold. when you cleanse it of all material stuff it is in its pure form and cant be changed.
12-03-2007, 07:59 PM,
Christ and Krishna
Truth, the order, governing force, is not man made, but independent of man, religion wish to uncover this truth, while most thinking it about ppl places and things, in reality its ideas relation and concepts of the order itself using ppl places and things to illustrate. Many manipulations of religions its true, and some spawned from manipulation itself, with no inspiration from life itself at all. However one inspired, and inspiration protected, not just words, but the Word of Life Itself. As Jesus was not just a man but, Life Itself, born in the flesh to communicate the will of Life Itself, so is the Word, the Bible.

Im glad im entertaining to you, not my intent tho, as showing someone the truth of 9/11 or the world, isnt to entertain, as this whole truth movement has become to most, entertainment.

Your lost within a programming you think you have found independent, Gold is in fact gold, and it is a wonder then why you dont see when i show you real gold. That being the proof that only tarnish, with underline glimmers have you seen.

Im not sure you see chemistry for what it is, as everything within creation can be seen and evident on this level, a fundamental level, a root level, the epitome of peeling away the layers to find real truth, the governing order of Life Itself.
12-03-2007, 08:32 PM,
Christ and Krishna
"christ was life itself"
But he was born on earth, he had a mother, a carpenter father and was born in bethlehem. was there no life before this?
I am trying to find out - do you believe in the literal word of the bible or in it as only metaphor?
12-12-2007, 11:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-12-2007, 11:39 PM by cointelpro.)
Christ and Krishna
i think you all are forgetting a seemingly minor but very important detail, and that is that the word Christ means the anointed one, or one that is anointed. as we are all capable of being. Jesus himself said "you will do more marvelous things than these" he was nothing more or less than a teacher. an amazing teacher. an example of how to obtain pure love in all aspects of life. he was a man who wanted to be followed, not a man who wants to lead. if you can grasp that. he gave all the praise he recieved from people to his lord God. his preachings tried to show people the way to the source of enlightenment, they didn't try to persuade people to worship him. in fact i highly doubt Jesus would want a bunch of people running around worshiping him over his God. Jesus was life itself because he allowed that which is life (God) to flow through him unbridled. he is the son of god just as all of us are. why do people get this confused?

then again you should look at the story of Jesus as compared to the stories of Krishna or to the astrological movements of your sun through well known constilations during the end of december. or look at the likenesses of the stories of the holy trinity taught in the bible to the babylonian trinity of baal.

no one reliigon has a monopoly on truth. and Gods name is hidden for a reason.

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

Conspiracies would not be needed if people would simply open their eyes to the truths in front of them.

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12-12-2007, 11:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-13-2007, 12:05 AM by SerialExpLain.)
Christ and Krishna
No sacrifice of atonement - ONCE AND FOR ALL, not valid. Anything short of that is not valid.

The fact that everyone is trying to talk people out of true Christianity should be enough to wake anybody up.

Since 9/11, nothing but an in-your-face New Age agenda has been rife on internet boards that are of "conspiracy nature". Funny thing, you will learn about the conspiracy alright.

And the elimination of good old KJV THE WORD is definitely at the forefront of the agenda.

Where is it coming from? Think Roses and worse.

Krisna and any other preserving diety was how man tried to understand what God was. And there were always the division between those content to be led by the Holy Spirit and those that were compelled to usurp Godhood, as there were always narcissists. And, unfortunately, self-deification is ALL they are capable of. And there were always archetypes for those that relished in destruction along with the self-deification. There were archetypes for whatever a person was into. Those archetypes did not however, create or sustain one. All along there was something else operative -- from the beginning.

The Bible explains all of this nicely. So does Michael S. Heiser (new vids.)

Now it is 2007 and a very powerful financed body of operatives has been let loose on the internet to debase Christianity.

So, yeah, WE GOT A BIG OLD CONSPIRACY. Better look long and hard at where it is coming from.

The planet is in danger from what they hold near and dear.

I am sure you all heard today that NASA, yes, NASA confirms all arctic ice would be gone by 2013.

So I think it is about time for people to really look at just what those "SECRETS" in those "SOCIETIES" consist of.

And you know what? In large part it consists of attempting to destroy Christianity.

Well guess what? Won't happen.
12-13-2007, 05:01 PM,
Christ and Krishna
are those secret societies struggling to kill christianity or just all esoteric truths? a top church official once told me that you do not give knowledge to those who wish to mock it. and the satanic beliefe in the survival of the fittest ends up in knowledge being kept from those who can't see the light for themselves, blinded by the darkness of those in power.

just because a social head claims one religion does not mean it is so.

the Word of God was written by Man and therefore the only truth you can find is from within yourself, from the God presence in all of us unhindered by the thoughts of others. in order to understand God you must understand yourself first. there is no seperation serial, its not a self-deification but a realization that He is in fact within us all, at all times.

the bible is both literal and metaphorical. it should never be taken 100 percent either way, but instead read and prayed upon. ask your God questions about parables you cannot understand and i promise he will answer you as he has me many times.

Jesus was a man who recognized that God was within him, and within us all, and there was God before Jesus just as there is God after Jesus. There were other like minded human spirits before Jesus just as there will be others like him after his time. God will always provide beacons of light for as long as he is.

the only answer isnt a religion, it is love. the crumbling of society can in part be blamed on the seperatism that all religions have brought us. and Christianity is the grandest example of this: How many denominations are there within the church of christ? the serve to seperate the people simply because of their interpretations, instead of embracing them as one because of their love for both God and one another. or the fighting between religions such as jews and muslims, hindus, christians, etc etc. when in reality we find such blazingly clear examples of these "opposite" religions being very much alike.

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.

Conspiracies would not be needed if people would simply open their eyes to the truths in front of them.

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12-13-2007, 11:03 PM,
Christ and Krishna
This was from a post I made regarding the ZEIGEIST movie. Parts are applicable as a response to Cointelpro, so I included a portion of the post here.

Take Krishna for example, or any other of the supposed "births from a virgin" and "deaths and resurrections" etc. fulfilled the same purpose that Jesus' did.


For all whose names were written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

So, yes it is exclusive. But it happened and those who are meant to understand will understand.

Ultimately, it is the matter of not blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

Those that blashpeme the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this life or the next.

What people do not understand is Jesus IS THE WORD. Man did not write the Gospels of Jesus Christ. Oh, he was a teacher but there are/were many teachers. Enough to confuse and divide men.

Jesus was the only Savior and what makes that a DEFINITE is OBVIOUS if you read cover to cover - Old Testament through New Testament. Then it makes sense.

But of course it is antithetical to self-deification. Now, the Bible explains why that would occur and modern societies provide ample examples of it. There is also a time stated when the tares will gather first and there would be great apostacy.

Also seen.

So if the Bible is not good enough for an individual, then obviously the only reason why it wouldn't be, even though it includes all people who have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit and is not even exclusive of all those other religions or spirituality is that the need for self-deification is a need the individual is currently holding onto which is common under the forces prevelant at this time in history. However, the only MASTERS of self-deification unfortunately are born and develop those traits during childhood and adolescents. They posses malignant narcissism which precludes them from anything other than self deification. Those are the forces controlling Zeistgeist -- not the movie -- THE ZEITGEIST. That is where division comes, not unity. There is no inherent unity.

If someone seeks to Unify you, beware. It is a lie.

But when someone eminates evil in their voice, it is very apparent the Spirit that is operating. Zeitgeist had an evil spirit very pronounced in content and manifest in the narrator's voice.

Zeitgeist!! Yeah, what happened after 9/11. Zeitgeist!! The change that brought it forth to begin with?

Zeitgeist!! I say may it past quickly, the army arrayed against the TRUE WORD OF GOD. No, I will not take my enlightment from any of the conquistador's (or thinking they are) army. It bears bad fruit.
12-14-2007, 12:00 AM,
Christ and Krishna
The Knowledge of Krishna was written down before the writing of The Bible. Jesus speaks to God in the Bible which suggests he is not God himself. This means God existed before Jesus came upon the earth.
Krishna is not a deity. Though you can make any paper, wood, metal, or clay into a deity of Krisna if your intention is pure. He is not a deity or a miracle child. He is God playing the part as a child, in many forms and on many occasions, past, present and future.
Lord Krishna was born in a prison cell in the captivity of King Kansa. He took birth in divine form with lotus like eyes,his palms bearing the signs of a lotus and a discus. He had a swastika sign on his sole. Wearing a yellow colored silk cloth, adorned with precious diamond earrings and a crown made of emeralds.
Where are such descriptions of God in the Bible. We only have the Lords voice.
The Vedic scriptures Bhagavd Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam dont talk of atonement but Karma, work that is done from previous actions.
12-14-2007, 12:20 AM,
Christ and Krishna
I agree there was much going on that was to be perceived by men about God. Krishna is very appealing and I spent many a day and evening at a Hari temple and understand Hinduism deeply.

But when the appointed time came for THE WORD to be manifest it was for many reasons and many things revealed.

There is man seeking God, but there is also God seeking man.

Studying Jung and archetypes is really revealing.

There are errors in the other approaches. JMO the WORD tells what the errors are, not in a bad way. Just why they are errors and fallacies.

I have been through past life regressions that I swore were actual past lifes in every way. However, I no longered believed them to be simply reading the collective unconsciousness. The potential for man is limitless, but it is not man's or through self-deification wherein true power lies. It is in the moment when God-Holy Spirit provides the annointing.

That is the difference. Essentially, anyone can create a pantheon, a creation story, dig up archeology if a culture lasts that long. It is a meme of the collective unconscious, all archetypes.

But they don't provide acurate everytime prophecy, and they don't provide a thoroughly acurrate description of every single component operative. The Living Word does that.

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