Just doing some brainstorming...

[JohnDoe1984]

I'm thinking back and I can remember a few people I met in the mid 90's who told me that they learned to make meth in college level chemistry classes.

Being a conspiracy theorist my mind starts to work. I get the idea that maybe this recent epidemic of all these backyard meth labs has been part of a plan. One of the beginning stages of the plan was to spread the info on how to make this new incredibly dangerous and addictive drug through the schools.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this or hear of anyone who was taught how to make meth in chemistry class?

[ephilution]

Quote:I'm thinking back and I can remember a few people I met in the mid 90's who told me that they learned to make meth in college level chemistry classes.

From the masonic maxim 'ordo ab chao' the meth epidemic seems one more wish come true for the government. More meth-users create more chaos in the guise of crime and disorderly conduct, a pattern of behavior that begs for increases in law enforcement (order) and may even be used as a rationale of the government to take away civil rights.

In addition, meth being a stimulant may offer short term economic benefits in the form of increased labor efforts. The danger of course is mental instability and mental pathology (psychosis) so this may offer extra work for social workers and psychiatry, all at the expense of health insurance companies and the tax payer. Either which way it doesn't take too big of a stretch of imagination to think that meth-usage by the citizenry is welcomed by the government and the 'health' industry rather than condemned and persecuted.

Hence the apathetic laissez faire kind of attitude by the government IMO.

[nataraja]

i dont think so, i wouldnt rule it out, but the school aspect... nah..

since amphetamines were synthesized and made public people have been trying to create it. since the increase in home lab kits and availablity of them people have been trying to create it in their homes.

the origins of the crystalised state of ampthetamine is unknown i beleive. no one has claimed to have created it. but there was books by people under aliases way before it hit mainstream. uncle fester wrote a book on meth over 20 years ago in the early 1980s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Fester_(author)

who he realy was, goverment, or individual no one realy knows, i wouldnt rule out that the origins were from the goverment, to create social distress and tear families apart etc.

the creator of mdma on the other hand is famous for his work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin so it is quiet interesting that no one realy took the credit for meth. same with lsd.

i think its an interesting question you have raised.

[ephilution]

Quote:i dont think so, i wouldnt rule it out, but the school aspect... nah..

since amphetamines were synthesized and made public people have been trying to create it. since the increase in home lab kits and availablity of them people have been trying to create it in their homes.

the origins of the crystalised state of ampthetamine is unknown i beleive. no one has claimed to have created it.

Quote:[...] we can look to Japan for answers. They invented meth in 1919 and endured an epidemic of abuse during the post-war American Occupation the likes of which this country will hopefully never have to experience. Like most of the major combatants in World War II, the Japanese pumped amphetamines down the throats of soldiers and industrial workers. At the end of the war, huge stockpiles were found in cities all over the country. The quantity of the drug was exceeded only by the quality. Unlike the present day American meth - manufactured in clandestine labs with shortcut recipes and then laced with adulterants - the Japanese counterpart was synthesized in government facilities under the strictest quality controls. With the exception of Korean and Taiwanese free base, more commonly known as "Ice", it is probably the most potent meth ever produced.

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossi.../pg1/index.html

Quote:but there was books by people under aliases way before it hit mainstream. uncle fester wrote a book on meth over 20 years ago in the early 1980s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Fester_(author)

who he realy was, goverment, or individual no one realy knows, i wouldnt rule out that the origins were from the goverment, to create social distress and tear families apart etc.

the creator of mdma on the other hand is famous for his work http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin so it is quiet interesting that no one realy took the credit for meth. same with lsd.

http://www.hofmann.org/

[nataraja]

i made a mistake in saying that shulgin created mdma, he didnt.

quote from wikipedia:

In 1967, Shulgin was introduced to MDMA (ecstasy) by Merrie Kleinman, a graduate student in the medicinal chemistry group he advised at San Francisco State University. [[MDMA<nh>]] had been synthesized and patented by Merck in 1912 as a byproduct of another synthesis, but was considered useless, and was never explored.

just to clarify, sorry