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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
03-12-2008, 02:45 PM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
<span style="color:#FFFFFF"><div align='center'>Vaccination And Abortion</div>


The Vaccine and Abortion Racket

It shocks many parents and even professionals alike when I mention that certain vaccines are cultured on aborted human foetal remains. The immediate response seems to be stunned silence followed by an incredulous ‘what?’ or just sheer disbelief. Even my health visitor exclaimed
‘Oh no, that can’t be right, you must have got that wrong!’
When I pointed out to her that the MMR vaccine she was promoting had aborted human baby in it.
It is a fact that to grow a virus or bacteria one must have an unclean medium on which to propagate the virus. To do this they would either use animal tissue, human blood products, genetically engineered yeast or aborted foetal tissue.

Why Medics Don’t Like Animal Tissue

Foetal tissue is the preferred choice for many vaccinologists as it avoids potential contamination with animal diseases and cross-transfer of animal DNA into humans.
According to Dr. Philip Brunel, Chief Medical Editor of ‘Infectious Diseases in Children’, March 2003, ‘About 40 years ago, cells from human embryos were grown in tissue culture…These strains, in contrast to the malignant cell lines that were existent at the time, retained their normal chromosome number and did not produce tumours. It was soon found, moreover, that they would support the growth of many viruses. Varicella virus and hepatitis A viruses were propagated in these cells, whereas it was difficult if not impossible to grow them in other types of cells. They provided an almost ideal substrate for the production of some of the vaccines we now use. Before the discovery of these cells, some vaccines were grown in avian eggs or cells derived from avian embryos. Other vaccines (eg, polio) were grown in kidney cells obtained by killing monkeys. In contrast to the human diploid cells, each time cells were required, a monkey had to be killed to obtain their kidney to produce cell cultures. This not only put a drain on the monkey population but also carried the risk of harbouring monkey viruses, eg, SV40, which is known to be oncogenic in some species. Also, some of the monkey’s bit handlers and infected them with herpes B virus, which was often fatal.’

Vaccines That Use Foetal Tissue

Currently, the following vaccines in the UK contain aborted foetal tissue: MMR II, MMR (Priorix), MR, Rabies (Imovax), Hepatitis A (Havarix and Avaxim brands). Old style single rubella vaccines contained foetal tissue, as well as some brands of single measles vaccines and the Medeva polio vaccine which was withdrawn for safety reasons.
In the USA, there is also an inject able polio vaccine by Connaught Labs which contains foetal tissue, as does the Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine.

This practice began in the 1960’s when lung tissue was taken from an aborted female foetus, for use in the rubella vaccine, after she was terminated for mental health reasons by the mother. They also took tissue from a 14 week old male foetus, aborted for the same reason.

An Ethical Minefield

Miscarried babies cannot be used in the production of vaccines since most miscarriages are due to chromosomal abnormality and therefore renders the tissue too dangerous to use in case there is any transference of disease into the vaccinated person. Early embryonic cells can also not be used as they are not large enough to take a tissue sample from, therefore all unborn children used in vaccine production must be over the age of 12 weeks gestation and without any genetic abnormality.

Even for those who are pro a woman’s choice, may find this disrespectful use of human remains challenging.
It also raises the question of how we as a society value human life and whether in fact we have the right to place more importance on one baby’s life than another baby? Is it right to inject one baby with MMR to protect him from measles, using the body parts of a dead baby? Should one baby die to save another and what makes the child who receives MMR more important than the child who was used to make the drug? Would mothers even want it if they knew they were injecting their child with human remains?

It also means that the abortion industry is profiting from the sale of vaccines which contain their by-products. Whilst this author understands that there are heartbreaking circumstances that lead a woman to termination, and most people don’t make this decision lightly, an industry such as this should never be allowed to profit from the destruction of human life. They may argue that they still use the same cell lines, but foetal tissue is still widely used in bio-medical research even today.

There are also many religious groups who are opposed to abortion who would find the use of foetal tissue in vaccines, unacceptable. At the Catholic Bishops conference of England and Wales 1994, religious leaders prepared a report on the subject which called vaccine use of aborted foetal tissue ‘a kind of evil which is widespread in biomedical research and which people rightly think they should combat when they can…the practice of medicine is being made parasitic on the evils of abortion and foetal experimentation.’
They add that ‘refusing vaccination is one way of seeking to turn medicine from a course which will increasingly subvert people’s confidence in it.’
According to Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services (4th edition, 2001), ‘"Catholic health care institutions should not make use of human tissue obtained by direct abortions even for research and therapeutic purposes" (Directive 66).
Other religions such as Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses and fundamentalist Christians are all opposed to abortion and see it as anti-scriptural so getting any foetal containing vaccine would be against their philosophy.

Health Concerns With Foetal Tissue

There are also health risks associated with using human foetal tissue in vaccines, including the transference of diseases and genetic material which the foetus was carrying prior to its death. (1. Plotkin, SA, et al. Attenuation of RA 27-3 rubella virus in WI-38 human diploid cells. American Journal of Diseases of Children. Aug 1969. 118(2): 178-85.).

Vaccinating with human body parts can cause the recipient to produce antibodies to human tissue. Children produce antibodies to every component of the vaccine, and not simply the viruses. This can cause demylination of the nerves and auto-immune disorders.
Children who have been vaccinated with MMR and later suffered autism have been found to have antibodies to their own brain tissue, and this may be a consequence of using foetal tissue in MMR. ‘Susana C. Silva, Catarina Correia and Astrid M. Vicente at the Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Oeiras, Portugal and colleagues studied the blood of a large sample of individuals - 171 patients, 191 parents and 54 healthy controls - and report that autistic patients are in fact characterised by presenting in their blood high levels of non-inherited antibodies against the body’s brain tissue.’ (Dr Catarina Amorim; Journal of Neuroimmunology; Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Observatório da Ciência e do Ensino Superior, Portugal; July 23, 2004).

This article is not intended to upset or offend anyone who may have gone through the pain of termination. My sympathies are with anyone who has experienced pregnancy loss of any form.

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http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccin...n-And-Abortion-
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03-13-2008, 01:47 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
China doesn't just export walmart goods, 7 million abortions per year surely serve another purpose beside stem cell research.
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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03-13-2008, 06:41 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
How can abortion serve any other purpose than to abort an unborn foetus? :eyebrow:
reality is a manufactured illusion

Self delusion is all well and good until it catches up with you . . .
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03-14-2008, 03:11 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:How can abortion serve any other purpose than to abort an unborn foetus? :eyebrow:

err I meant "aborted foetuses".

Quote:
Quote: China doesn't just export walmart goods, 7 million abortions per year surely serve another purpose beside stem cell research.

well they won't be off going to see the traditional punch and jewdy show of "once there was a wicked man" during Purim next week that's for sure :mellow:

the world would have been a much better place had the Roman's not tried to genocide the celts.

Are you saying you don't care because it doesn't affect you ?
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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03-14-2008, 04:36 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:well yes of course that's exactly what i'm saying! :blink: :rolleyes:

how the fuck did you make that interpretation??:unsure:

How should I know what you meant to say thanks to your constant sarcastic tone ? I'm not looking for a fight here, I'm just trying to understand.
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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03-14-2008, 05:27 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:i'm not being constantly sacastic - when i am i make it clear - like above..

i was obliquely referring to the city baby dumps in old Rome - whereas in comparison the Celts cared for their young brilliantly...not even by comparison..they just did. I'm biased but it's still true!
that's all - it wasn't even on topic..

I think people/women should have the right to choose but even more so that they should be responsible as humanly possible to not to get pregnant if they really don't want a child..
I think the "normalisation" of it in society is frankly - evil..and we are yet to feel the full impact of china's one child policy which has led to a vast disproportion between numbers of men and women there due to so many of the female foetuses being aborted - same sketch as in india but more pronounced.

it's hardly that shocking that embryonic stem cells from aborted foetuses are used in vaccines - it's been going on for a while...it's soylent green town,man. we are nothing to the olympians. another depressing industry of death sure, but i dont think bombing clinics is cool either.

they're dishing out jail sentences to parents in Belgium now for refusing to have their kids innoculated - ah, the seat of enlightenment..twats -it's specific to the polio vaccine sure but nevertheless you can see how that one plays out...
take it easy, I don't want to barney with you either - I'm hurt you think i'm constantly sarcastic though *sniff sniff* lol



peace;)

I didn't know romans dumped their unwanted babies, you can see the misunderstanding...
I agree, it's been quite a while since they make vaccines out of feotuses but I still find it disturbing that you pay to have an abortion and then you have to buy the remains as a vaccine.
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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03-14-2008, 08:52 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:
Quote:How can abortion serve any other purpose than to abort an unborn foetus? :eyebrow:

err I meant "aborted foetuses".

err read it again, then concentrate on the word purpose, if you can...

What I'm saying between the lines is find another soundbite that actually makes sense, rather than infer another reason for abortion in china :wink:

err was that easy enough for ya?
reality is a manufactured illusion

Self delusion is all well and good until it catches up with you . . .
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03-15-2008, 03:28 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:err read it again, then concentrate on the word purpose, if you can...

What I'm saying between the lines is find another soundbite that actually makes sense, rather than infer another reason for abortion in china :wink:

err was that easy enough for ya?

Forced abortion is the result of the 1 child policy and the aborted foetuses are useful in the medical field, I see great profits are made of it. Does this make sense to you ?
&To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so...& - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

&In the Middle Ages, they took the name of serfs; nowadays, they are called wage earners.& Mikhail Bakunin
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03-15-2008, 06:10 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
This is one I didn't know, excellent find. I'm sure that Gates's large sum of money to Planned Parenthood was more on an investment, rather than a chariety.
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03-15-2008, 09:04 AM,
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MMR Triple Vaccine cultured from the remains of aborted babies
Quote:Forced abortion is the result of the 1 child policy and the aborted foetuses are useful in the medical field, I see great profits are made of it. Does this make sense to you ?

Wasn't too hard, was it? :biggrin:
reality is a manufactured illusion

Self delusion is all well and good until it catches up with you . . .
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