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Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - fred15 - 05-06-2012

A bit more about the "tip of the spear attack frigate info-warrior":-

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2098/118/Alex_Joness_Satanist_Friends.html


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-07-2012

I am not a fan of Alex. If you ever get a chance, listen to the Jack Blood radio show when Jack gets mad over Alex, and says some of what he saw (such as special promotional Alex signed DVDs, which were signed by staff), it is pretty interesting. He does bring a lot of people to a more conspiracy oriented mindset, however, does not do much beyond that. Constantly, he only refers to them as "elites" or "Illuminati [scum]", but that is about it. I have never seen him once talk about their hand symbols, their symbolism and logos, apart from the over-rated "horns of Satan" sign, which he has barely touched on. I learned more in one day about their symbols on Youtube (or should I say Jewtube?) than I did in a year of listening to Jones. Also, a little bit of reading (books not able to be bought in the Infowars store) helped me to understand there were far more societies than the masons and the Bilderburgers. Alex does mention CFR, Trilateral, and Club of Rome a bit, but that is about it. I, personally, (he may have, I do not know) have not heard him mention Jesuits, Knights of Columbus or Malta, or some of the lesser prominent societies.

I think he is controlled, but that is my take. To each their own, believe whatever you want to.

Anarchist


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - capnchronic - 05-07-2012

(05-07-2012, 12:26 AM)Anarchist Wrote: I am not a fan of Alex. If you ever get a chance, listen to the Jack Blood radio show when Jack gets mad over Alex, and says some of what he saw (such as special promotional Alex signed DVDs, which were signed by staff), it is pretty interesting. He does bring a lot of people to a more conspiracy oriented mindset, however, does not do much beyond that. Constantly, he only refers to them as "elites" or "Illuminati [scum]", but that is about it. I have never seen him once talk about their hand symbols, their symbolism and logos, apart from the over-rated "horns of Satan" sign, which he has barely touched on. I learned more in one day about their symbols on Youtube (or should I say Jewtube?) than I did in a year of listening to Jones. Also, a little bit of reading (books not able to be bought in the Infowars store) helped me to understand there were far more societies than the masons and the Bilderburgers. Alex does mention CFR, Trilateral, and Club of Rome a bit, but that is about it. I, personally, (he may have, I do not know) have not heard him mention Jesuits, Knights of Columbus or Malta, or some of the lesser prominent societies.

I think he is controlled, but that is my take. To each their own, believe whatever you want to.

Anarchist

Just to clarify, as I have in other threads, I'm no defender of AJ, however, at least back when he had Texe Marrs on regularly they would often cover "Illuminati Symbolism" and I could be wrong but I think he even did some PrisonPlanet.tv reports on it, including the "Owl Building". I personally think Jack Blood's description of Jones (as you mentioned), is the most accurate, he isn't some kind of Vatican Assassin, just an asshole. Someone who definitely does some good, while at the same time doing what he has to do to make the most money. Before Obama's election, he had the general
"conspiracy theorist" audience who would be interested in the symbolism etc. but after Obama came into the mix, he got a much more conservative audience, one that would most likely prefer information about how Obama's a socialist than about how he's a satanist. Check out his early stuff from the Clinton years it's pretty similar.

On a side note, and please don't take this as an insult of any kind, but I personally think not talking about the Jesuits constantly is one of his strong points, it's pretty clear that the people who really push that stuff are obviously dis-info or mentally ill. Check out Freeman Fly's interview w/ Eric John Phelps for an easy example.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-07-2012

Never caught an interview with Texe Marrs, but I do remember the Owl Building. I see those big buildings differently now. I am skeptical he is controlled opposition, but in the end, it really does not matter. Some of the info he puts forward is worth a listen, and as with everything, you take it with a grain of salt. I could be wrong and just missed the symbolism bits, but the only time I ever saw Infowars link to Vigilant Citizen was on the post breaking down the art in the banks. They never linked (to my knowledge) to many of the other posts on buildings or people, nor to other sites that are just as good. Again, this is just to my knowledge. As far as Jesuits go, people do talk a lot about them and it gets interesting, just like the whole lizard thing. Just because it gets annoying, does not mean it is untrue, save for maybe lizards, but who knows anymore? I liked there was not a UFO in every other thing Alex said like some shows, but the UFOs play a role. In the end, Alex is at best profiteering while providing [some] truth directed towards his target audience. At the worst, he may be related to the Queen created in some test tube lab by the Jesuits and be a secret assassin using mind control radio... Or something like that. Who knows anymore?


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - capnchronic - 05-07-2012

(05-07-2012, 05:26 AM)Anarchist Wrote: Never caught an interview with Texe Marrs, but I do remember the Owl Building. I see those big buildings differently now. I am skeptical he is controlled opposition, but in the end, it really does not matter. Some of the info he puts forward is worth a listen, and as with everything, you take it with a grain of salt. I could be wrong and just missed the symbolism bits, but the only time I ever saw Infowars link to Vigilant Citizen was on the post breaking down the art in the banks. They never linked (to my knowledge) to many of the other posts on buildings or people, nor to other sites that are just as good. Again, this is just to my knowledge. As far as Jesuits go, people do talk a lot about them and it gets interesting, just like the whole lizard thing. Just because it gets annoying, does not mean it is untrue, save for maybe lizards, but who knows anymore? I liked there was not a UFO in every other thing Alex said like some shows, but the UFOs play a role. In the end, Alex is at best profiteering while providing [some] truth directed towards his target audience. At the worst, he may be related to the Queen created in some test tube lab by the Jesuits and be a secret assassin using mind control radio... Or something like that. Who knows anymore?

Just to clarify what I meant about the Jesuits, I'm in no way trying to vindicate the catholic church of any wrong doing, but so much of what is accredited to them is completely absurd. Anyone who looks at things objectively can pretty easily come to the conclusion that the Vatican is just a small cog in the machine that is the global conspiracy, yet people love to claim that the Rothschilds are some how serving the black pope.

One other thing is if you haven't already, you should definitely check out Texe's book Codex Magica, which I think Alex used to even sell himself until Texe started really covering the more taboo topics.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-07-2012

Maybe if I get to it in the future. I have Griffin's book Creature from Jekyll Island to finish, a few book on permaculture, few on Lincoln and the truth behind the so-called civil war, book on alien encounters (when Hastings has a book discontinuing, and you can get it for $3, you do it), books on where common "Christian" practices really come from... Did you know the whole baby Jesus born on Dec. 25 and Mother Mary stuff is actually the continuity of Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod reincarnate)? Semiramis and Tammuz, Venus and Cupid, Mary and Jesus. Now, this does not disprove the Christ of the Bible (another good book I am reading, pretty big), who was probably born in early fall, but the concept of a virgin birth and the winter solstice is adopted from pagan beliefs. Same for Christmas, Easter, Halloween (that one is a given) et cetera. Also the Apocrypha, which is the 14 books in Scriptures the Vatican took out in 1909 I think it was, but were there originally. As well as a few books on symbolism. So yeah, maybe later, but I think I am good on reading material for now. Smile

As far as the Jesuits go, they are probably overstated. But I would not claim they were a small cog, seeing as the Vatican is a pretty big cog. There are three city states (of importance to this topic), DC, London, and the Vatican. DC is the one in charge of war, no surprise. Keep bombing people into freedom. London is the financial center, which is why all central banks lead to London. The Vatican is in charge of religious control, and being the church that spawned the protestant movement, and can be considered the "mother" of modern Christianity (and still heavily influencing it), it is far more than a small cog. I forget which pope it was, but when he went to ban the Jesuits (which are still banned or have been in over 70 countries in history), the night before he could do it formally, he "died". Oh dear, what a shame and so coincidental, too.

Personally, though, I want to see the queen of England turn lizard. It would be pretty cool to see.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - capnchronic - 05-09-2012

(05-07-2012, 08:45 AM)Anarchist Wrote: Maybe if I get to it in the future. I have Griffin's book Creature from Jekyll Island to finish, a few book on permaculture, few on Lincoln and the truth behind the so-called civil war, book on alien encounters (when Hastings has a book discontinuing, and you can get it for $3, you do it), books on where common "Christian" practices really come from... Did you know the whole baby Jesus born on Dec. 25 and Mother Mary stuff is actually the continuity of Semiramis and Tammuz (Nimrod reincarnate)? Semiramis and Tammuz, Venus and Cupid, Mary and Jesus. Now, this does not disprove the Christ of the Bible (another good book I am reading, pretty big), who was probably born in early fall, but the concept of a virgin birth and the winter solstice is adopted from pagan beliefs. Same for Christmas, Easter, Halloween (that one is a given) et cetera. Also the Apocrypha, which is the 14 books in Scriptures the Vatican took out in 1909 I think it was, but were there originally. As well as a few books on symbolism. So yeah, maybe later, but I think I am good on reading material for now. Smile

As far as the Jesuits go, they are probably overstated. But I would not claim they were a small cog, seeing as the Vatican is a pretty big cog. There are three city states (of importance to this topic), DC, London, and the Vatican. DC is the one in charge of war, no surprise. Keep bombing people into freedom. London is the financial center, which is why all central banks lead to London. The Vatican is in charge of religious control, and being the church that spawned the protestant movement, and can be considered the "mother" of modern Christianity (and still heavily influencing it), it is far more than a small cog. I forget which pope it was, but when he went to ban the Jesuits (which are still banned or have been in over 70 countries in history), the night before he could do it formally, he "died". Oh dear, what a shame and so coincidental, too.

Personally, though, I want to see the queen of England turn lizard. It would be pretty cool to see.

Ok, I kinda feel like a dick for sort of causing this thread to flow off topic, so I'm gonna try and respond more directly to the OP after replying to this. Before I continue, one thing I want to throw out there, is after you finish "The Creature From Jeckyl Island", you should consider reading "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins as Griffin supposedly plagiarized it when writing his book, but left out a few things. Honestly though, I'm glad he did it because Eustace had too colorful of a past to be taken seriously by the mainstream, compared to someone like Griffin who did a whole lot to make the anti-FED stuff mainstream, 2nd only to Ron Paul I think in that respect, but Eustace was who first exposed it.

As far as the Jesuits, maybe saying it's a small cog was an understatement, but what I mean is like there are a lot of people that believe the Black Pope is the most powerful man in the world and stuff like that which is really absurd , I mean if you search YouTube you can find a video of him visiting a church in the US and being confronted by We Are Change, would the most powerful man on earth really be doing something like that? Yet people claim that the Rothschilds serve him, other than David De Rothschild (who is essentially just a media personality at this point), have you seen any of them ever get confronted or anything like that?

Now, for the main topic at hand here, I read all the links that the OP link leads to, and in reality the evidence is really weak IMO. Joe Rogan is someone who doesn't really agree with AJ on a lot at all but he's mainly friends with him through Kevin Boothe I would think, him hanging out with LeVay's son is screwed up, if AJ was hanging out with him personally I'd definitely see it as significant, but "the guy from feat factor" can't exactly be suspected to hang out with wholesome individuals.

The other main one in there was Dave Mustain, who I really dislike honestly, but again it's a stretch to call him a satanist. Obviously he was involved in a genre of music that is filled with overt satanism, but it does seem like he really did become a mainstream Christian conservative type, like he even endorsed Santorum. Which of course is then an example of how seriously he takes the stuff AJ says.

Don't get me wrong though man, I'm not trying to defend AJ who I'm definitely critical of, but it's better to focusing on the stronger points, like the Jack Blood show Anarchist brought up as well as criticism he got from other people who were once/still are on decent terms with him, like the stuff Texe Marrs said for example.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-09-2012

While I doubt the conversion of Mustain, I will defend the fact he did not endorse Santorum. He just said he respected the man for visiting his sick family as opposed to campaigning. While I think AJ is controlled opposition, the evidence given in this thread is pretty weak. There are plenty of better pieces of evidence, and maybe someone *hint* should compile them into a thread. Maybe one day I will get bored, who knows? There is the popular internet clip of him hijacking a protest and getting physical, numerous audio/video recordings of him lashing out at callers and swearing. He hijacks conversations, when a guest says something, he interrupts and changes the subject. My favourite of him saying "I support Israel, you got that scum?!" You could have even mentioned his wife, Violet Jones, is Jewish... Of course the Bill Cooper and Jack Blood radio shows on AJ. Or how (Bill Cooper points this out) AJ was going nuts spreading Y2K garbage. There is even an Illuminati Card of two clowns, and one looks like AJ... The other kinda looks like Ron Paul.

[Image: Illuminati-Cards-Alex-Jones-Ron-Paul-SMOF.jpg]

A lot more, this was off the top of my tired head at the moment. Connecting to a guy who was friends with a Satanist's son is a little like childhood gossip to me.
"Hey, so did you know that Alex is friends with Joe Rogan who knows Whatshisname, the son of Anton LeVay?"
"No way, totally!"
"Yeah, and I think he may be a Satanist!"
"Uh-uh, really!? Woooooow."

Et cetera.

There is plenty of good info out there in easy grasp, personally, I would ditch Beforeitsnews. That is my take, anyways. Oh, and I agree capnchronic, I think we hijacked the thread a bit... Undecided Sorry for that Fred.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - yeti - 05-09-2012

(05-09-2012, 04:51 AM)Anarchist Wrote: While I think AJ is controlled opposition, the evidence given in this thread is pretty weak. There are plenty of better pieces of evidence, and maybe someone *hint* should compile them into a thread. Maybe one day I will get bored, who knows? There is the popular internet clip of him hijacking a protest and getting physical, numerous audio/video recordings of him lashing out at callers and swearing. He hijacks conversations, when a guest says something, he interrupts and changes the subject. My favourite of him saying "I support Israel, you got that scum?!" You could have even mentioned his wife, Violet Jones, is Jewish... Of course the Bill Cooper and Jack Blood radio shows on AJ. Or how (Bill Cooper points this out) AJ was going nuts spreading Y2K garbage.

If you want to claim Jones is controlled opposition, why not provide actual evidence instead of lying and parroting the same bullshit?


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-09-2012

Because I am a bit too busy to dig up what I formerly had. Maybe in the future I will, I am busy now. Please note the words "I think", included to signify an opinion. I mentioned events (such as the Texas rally hijack) and methods (I listened to him for a year, he hijacks the conversation) which anyone can verify. The links of him being CIA/Jesuit/reptilian/whatever else someone may claim, though, does not exist in the amount I find sufficient for myself, let alone a skeptic. If there is such evidence, it eludes me, which is why I put the words "I think" rather than claimed matter-of-fact he is controlled.

Please tell me where in the statement you quoted I lied. Perhaps I am blind, but I do not see a lie in the quoted post.

Also, I did not claim, but express my view. However, if you want to claim he is not, be my guest.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - yeti - 05-09-2012

(05-09-2012, 06:25 AM)Anarchist Wrote: Please tell me where in the statement you quoted I lied. Perhaps I am blind, but I do not see a lie in the quoted post.

You said his wife is jewish.




RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-09-2012

Alex admits that.
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/FromOthers/Violet-Jones.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/mp3/Jones-wife-is-Jew-18Aug2009.mp3


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - yeti - 05-09-2012

(05-09-2012, 08:59 AM)Anarchist Wrote: Alex admits that.
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/FromOthers/Violet-Jones.html
http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/mp3/Jones-wife-is-Jew-18Aug2009.mp3

WTF are you talking about?? Jones himself says the opposite right in the audio you provided! He says she's a Christian, FFS.

Dude, you need to pull your head out your ass. You're coming across as a really fucking stupid twat on this one - just as bad as most of the mouth breathers that see a jew under every rock and never seem to shut up about it.




RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - SiLVa - 05-09-2012

Whether his wife is jewish or not doesnt matter to me. He's a proven liar. Thats enough for me to write him off.


RE: Alex Jones's Satanist Friends - Anarchist - 05-09-2012

yeti, I did not say she was a practicing Jew, her bloodline is Jewish. That is what Alex admits.