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Shocking: US Federal Agency Armed Mexican Drug Lords - mexika - 03-15-2011


Shocking: US Federal Agency Armed Mexican Drug Lords -- May Have Led to More Than a Thousand Deaths
By Andrea Nill, Think Progress
Posted on March 15, 2011, Printed on March 15, 2011
http://www.alternet.org/story/150255/
Back in December, border patrol Brian Terry was shot and killed by a group of Mexican thieves who were believed to have been preying on undocumented immigrants. The gun which was used to kill him was later traced to an Arizona gun store. Even more appalling, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives purposefully permitted the weapon to “walk” into the hands of drug lords and gun runners. It was all part of an ATF operation entitled Fast and Furious which allowed guns to be trafficked south of the border with the hope that they would lead authorities to high-level cartel operatives.
Special Agent John Dodson — the program’s whistle blower — told Univision’s Jorge Ramos yesterday that he found Fast and Furious morally reprehensible, pointing out that it might have led to the death of over a thousand people:
My motivation is simply because this isn’t what we signed up for, this isn’t what we do as law enforcement officers, as an agency, this is not what we do as ATF. My mission for coming out here was to stop this kind of activity. To prevent as much firearms trafficking as I can and then as I learned that my agency, as I believed, is perhaps contributing to that, at the very least condoning it, allowing it to occur right underneath our noses, if not contributing to it – I disagree with professionally, morally, ethically and I felt that I had an obligation of all these things to try and do something about it. [...]
We knew that these weapons were going to end up in crimes; they were going to a known criminal organization; that was the whole theory behind the case. So you have 1,800 guns that you let go, imagine if you only had one bullet for each gun, or you get one death for each gun, that is 1,800 people.
Meanwhile, the National Rifle Association (NRA) is calling on Congress to hold hearings on the ATF’s efforts to stem the flow of weapons to Mexico. Ironically, it’s the NRA lobby that has so weakened the ATF and rendered it leaderless since 2006. The Washington Post recently reported that for “over nearly four decades, the NRA has wielded remarkable influence over Congress, persuading lawmakers to curb ATF’s budget and mission and to call agency officials to account at oversight hearings.”
Yet, according to The Hill, the NRA hopes that “the public discussion [about Fast and Furious] will help kill a request from federal regulators for more authority to track gun purchases in the southern border states.” That request would involve requiring gun dealers to report multiple sales of rifles and shotguns to ATF. According to the NRA, the reporting requirement “would flood the agency with even more reports of legal transactions, while likely driving criminal traffickers further underground.” Yet, experts argue that the proposal could save thousands of lives from drug cartel violence.
In 2010, MSNBC reported that Mexican cartels are taking advantage of lax U.S. gun laws which the NRA has lobbied hard for. At that time, around 80 percent of the 90,000 weapons confiscated by Mexican authorities were purchased in the U.S.
Andrea Nill is an Immigration Researcher/Blogger for ThinkProgress.org and The Progress Report at the Center for American Progress Action Fund.
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RE: Shocking: US Federal Agency Armed Mexican Drug Lords - FastTadpole - 03-16-2011

Holy polarization of the gun issue!

Doesn't get more extreme than this.

If you allow the NRA and/or the Gun Rights Crowd to have their way Fast and Furious ATF gun runners will ship firearms to gun cartels to end up in the hands of violent (yes only violent they implied) Mexicans.

On the other side they are pitted against you have people talking like "If you aren't with the NRA and want any gun legislation or permit you are sheeple who don't care about freedom. 1776!"

Props to John Dodson though this was way out of hand before it was even concocted. I wonder how accurate that 1,800 guns, 1,800 bullets, 1,800 deaths estimate is though?

I have faith people will come to their senses and figure this out intelligently, the answer is when and after how many lessons will it be?

.. and if people respected eachother, and didn't live in fear of eachother they wouldn't be shooting and killing eachother.


RE: Shocking: US Federal Agency Armed Mexican Drug Lords - mexika - 03-17-2011

(03-16-2011, 10:40 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: Holy polarization of the gun issue!

Doesn't get more extreme than this.

If you allow the NRA and/or the Gun Rights Crowd to have their way Fast and Furious ATF gun runners will ship firearms to gun cartels to end up in the hands of violent (yes only violent they implied) Mexicans.

On the other side they are pitted against you have people talking like "If you aren't with the NRA and want any gun legislation or permit you are sheeple who don't care about freedom. 1776!"

Props to John Dodson though this was way out of hand before it was even concocted. I wonder how accurate that 1,800 guns, 1,800 bullets, 1,800 deaths estimate is though?

I have faith people will come to their senses and figure this out intelligently, the answer is when and after how many lessons will it be?

.. and if people respected eachother, and didn't live in fear of eachother they wouldn't be shooting and killing eachother.


Its just Business to the Arms Dealers who are located within the U.S of A. Wonder where the real terrorists are located?