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Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - drummer - 04-12-2009

"Mary", caller to the Power Hour on March 30, 2009, gives many details that the Dept of Homeland Security is transporting and distributing bird flu in mass quantities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - hilly7 - 04-13-2009

Good find. The lady may be onto something. Shipping out CDC's mutated birdflu (by accident, lol). Coffins purchased and stored. DHS & FEMA meeting secretly with cities and towns doing mock simulations of an outbreak with mass dead. China saying they want our assets and bio would be the way to take them without the people. China's financing Obama's corporate hand-out would be stupid, unless of course, something better than fiat currency. The guard learning to police American cities.


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

Question is.. Who the fuck is "Mary" and why should we believe anything she says? I can't believe anyone would fall for this rubbish :signs032:


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - hilly7 - 04-13-2009

Who knows who Mary is, and that is the point. Why should she give her name? She shouldn't. That would be like placing a bullseye on you and walking across an archery field. Fact or fiction, I take it since she probablt hasn't heard of the other incidents a maybe. She probably figures she has done her part, now it is up to each one to do theres. If they don't, no sweat off her nuts.

:sleep01:


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

Problem is that now I can just imagine everyone not only going on about "FEMA camps" but stating as fact that the Dept of Homeland Security is transporting and distributing bird flu, when it's just heresay and reaks of bullshit.



Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - --- - 04-13-2009

Quote:Question is.. Who the fuck is "Mary" and why should we believe anything she says? I can't believe anyone would fall for this rubbish :signs032:

That's not impartial at all - you are making an instant judgment that it is rubbish. How can you KNOW one way or the other?

I posted this video myself on a forum which has little time for CT's. I amended the title to 'alleged' - for that's what it is.





Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - Krise - 04-13-2009

just as a reminder:

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus (27th February 2009)
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009...27/8560781.html

An american pharma Baxter vaccine against flu found contaminated by H5N1 virus in several European countries
http://www.911blogger.com/node/19517




Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

I can't say for sure either way.. Well I can but I can't back up what I'm saying with anything more than an appeal for common sense, it just sounds highly suspicious to me to say the least, in fact I would bet everything I had on this being bullshit.

IMO there is much fear mongering going on about "FEMA camps" too with little evidence in most cases, but compare the information that texe mars presents on the issue, he is a bit nutty and talks some whacky shit some times but at least he backs up almost everything he says with some kind of evidence.. Some times flimsy, sometimes quite the opposite but he almost always sites the source cause he knows that the information is worthless otherwise, to make a conclusion that something has taken place based on questionable information from a caller to a conspiracy show who refuses to site her sources is pretty silly as far as I'm concerned, it brings to mind something that someone said to you in another forum.. "to a conspiracy nut, a lack of evidence is evidence itself", relating to the old "I can't disclose my sources for fear of their safety" bullshit.. Pull the other one mary :stfu:


I find it interesting that hilly 7 has already strung this into an elaborate theory featuring fema camps, china, etc.. :wacko:I was wondering if perhaps he could tell me what he is basing this statement on? "China saying they want our assets and bio would be the way to take them without the people" maybe I missed the article.. I wasn't online around the 1st of the month and I'm guessing this is when it was posted yea?


EDIT: Graf Krise has posted articles where people can follow the information to it's source, there is a big difference between this and the shit that "mary" is spouting.. Surely people can understand that..


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - --- - 04-13-2009

Thing is NSM is she gave out quite a lot of info that can be looked into by people who are in that part of the states.

addresses and what not. I'm not denying it could be a propaganda stunt or even a psyop - but alternately she could be legit.

In terms of citing sources and contacts - it's eminently understandable that she wouldn't do that if she was in fact telling the truth.


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

Your right, so lets just take this for what it is until such time as she does so or we get more collaborating evidence from other sources instead of stringing it into elaborate theories just yet. She does give lots of addresses etc, which can be followed up, your right, but that is exactly what I would expect if someone was spreading false rumors, I could get the address of some labs in my city, government facilities, etc, and put together a hoax story based on this information that would sound credible and fool a lot of people cause as the old saying goes.. the best lies are 90% truth! This would probably take me no more than 10 minutes googling on the net, if the addresses she gives turn out to be government labs for example, this would prove nothing IMO.

If this story has been spread to so many other "agencies" as she says, then I don't doubt that it will come out elsewhere, hopefully with something solid to collaborate her story, till then I call bullshit! Although I will add that within the first few seconds of hearing this woman I felt my bullshit detector going off, I can't remember the last time it has let me down.


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

30 karner rd albany ny is a post office http://albany.citysearch.com/profile/map/7...ost_office.html

Just out of curiosity.. Does it sound odd to anyone else that the driver was apparently given a shot to transport material and told it was to protect his family? How many times have the us government tested things on their own citizens with no regard for their health? (sensory deprivation, MKULTRA, etc)

Why would they start giving a shit now? Why would they transport the H5MI virus in conditions that are not entirely secure? It's not hard to transport a virus safely these days last I heard. Why would the government tell this spanish truck driver all these things? The information if real would no doubt be given only on a need to know basis would it not? (Unless this is fiction) Do you really think "they" would give a rats ass about this spanish truck driver and take him to "sandy point" to live happily ever after? (no fairy tale would be complete without such an ending though I guess) Sooo many more questions that I CBF typing..


How to carry out a lame hoax on conspiracy nuts 101

* Mention something about a deadly virus being transported around the country by shady people in suits.

* Claim there is a Fetah (or Fethah?) Muslim man involved

* Say that he was paid through Bank of America

* Add in some addresses that anyone can find out to sound genuine to stupid people who think this is all the proof they need that this story is real.

* Mix in some other bogus claims about 3 star generals and other nonsense to make it sound like it goes all the way to the top and fool the idiots even further.


Then wait for them to make up some crackpot theory about there being a new false flag attack about to take place on american soil, sit back and laugh your ass off :laughkick:


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - --- - 04-13-2009

Quote:Your right, so lets just take this for what it is until such time as she does so or we get more collaborating evidence from other sources instead of stringing it into elaborate theories just yet. She does give lots of addresses etc, which can be followed up, your right, but that is exactly what I would expect if someone was spreading false rumors, I could get the address of some labs in my city, government facilities, etc, and put together a hoax story based on this information that would sound credible and fool a lot of people cause as the old saying goes.. the best lies are 90% truth! This would probably take me no more than 10 minutes googling on the net, if the addresses she gives turn out to be government labs for example, this would prove nothing IMO.

If this story has been spread to so many other "agencies" as she says, then I don't doubt that it will come out elsewhere, hopefully with something solid to collaborate her story, till then I call bullshit! Although I will add that within the first few seconds of hearing this woman I felt my bullshit detector going off, I can't remember the last time it has let me down.


fair enough..


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - --- - 04-13-2009

Quote:30 karner rd albany ny is a post office http://albany.citysearch.com/profile/map/7...ost_office.html

Just out of curiosity.. Does it sound odd to anyone else that the driver was apparently given a shot to transport material and told it was to protect his family? How many times have the us government tested things on their own citizens with no regard for their health? (sensory deprivation, MKULTRA, etc)

Why would they start giving a shit now? Why would they transport the H5MI virus in conditions that are not entirely secure?


black op? tracking?


Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - SiLVa - 04-13-2009

Turns out someone pulled out their camera and went over to where she claimed there were a bunch of empty railway cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da3iU8Iv1w4




Bird flu transported by Homeland Security ? - nietzscheansuperman - 04-13-2009

And suprise suprise.. there was :suspicious:

Then the guy who filmed this claims that "this is proof that she wasn't lying", which it is, it is proof that there are some trains where she said there was.. so what? Does this mean she's not making up the rest of it? Of course not! I never doubted that the address she gave for the department of health or whatever would be correct and that would be some trains where she said there was, what I fail to see is how anyone can make the leap to thinking that this proves the other whacky shit she was saying was correct.

If I make up a story about me kidnapped by aliens along side a railroad and describe the railroad in detail, then someone goes and checks and sees that my description was correct then this doesn't prove that my entire story was correct.. I'm just having trouble understanding the logic (or lack thereof) of people who would see it that way.

I can see a lot of problems with that video, but can someone please explain to me what is so extraordinary about this train and what it proves exactly? Thanks.

PS: I have seen many trains that are much bigger than that