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Other forums - groen2 - 05-18-2010

Damn man, i just got banned from this other forum for making a negative thread. Some places can realy piss me off. I am "kevlar" i just don't know my password for my account and i am at work. Thought id drop by here, only place where you can make posts and not worry about the censorship or ban hammer coming down for no reason.

They banned me for a week and said i should stop trolling. I notice how they use trolling as a way to label opinions that they disagree with. If you say that you don't like homosexuals then they say you are trolling. It is the same as labeling anti-social behaviour. There is no clear definition and it just becomes a way for people to label opinions and words of what someone says. just a mechanism of control.

Realy pisses me off that the world is so shit sometimes. Why do people have to be so annoying and silly and sensitive.


RE: Other forums - FastTadpole - 05-18-2010

If it's a place that's going to ban you for not fitting in the box you're better off not being there. It's their loss. I do feel empathy for those who frequent spaces like that in so they are spoon fed. Hopes go out to them so they find a place where they can exercise and take in true free speech.

The longer term internet was set up as a brainwashing, monitoring and control with a good commercial component introduced later. Now the hatches are being locked down with search filtering, throttling, id checkpoints and regulations/laws. They try to choke us out of this we'll just take our discussion from the virtual to the pavement.

By design? Easier to manage but the ability to organize and exchange viewpoints, culture, ideas and report local/regional situations outweighs the overall censorship band-aids that are being applied to the potential sucking chest wound this is to the 'elite' agendi.

Dissent is bubbling in forums such as this while forces are at work building the police state is clamping down on the public option in ways such as limited gatherings, demonstration licences, hate crime laws, private security (foreign police), domestic military enforcement and, of course, the infamous free speech zones.

Stand your ground, infiltrate the sheep pens with innovations or seek an alternative medium to tap into and soapbox on.


RE: Other forums - groen2 - 05-18-2010

i hear you.

I wasn't even lecturing them (that much) on political and economics etc. Just saying my opinion mostly. I just wanted a chilled out forum that was not related to "conspiracy" or alternative information. Thought i could just fit in and share my opinion. Wow was i wrong. They did not take kindly to my thoughts on mostly every single subject. Was quite shocking, tried to make me feel like i was insane. Like i was the only one who had my opinions.

They just don't want to think and their defenses mechanisms kick inn and prevent anything that would cause different thoughts.


RE: Other forums - FastTadpole - 05-18-2010

Self policing is alive and well. I drop a pearl every now and then in other forums but I get ignored for the most part. It's cool to find a forum where there is a lonely thread or two on topic that I can bump and steer on a hockey, wrestling or anime forum now and again but it's a largely unreceptive audience. News sites are pretty good to hammer on though as long as you stick to facts and don't go too deep as to scare them too much. I like to lead with banking and fluoride pending the audience.

Loose forums are decent though, I used to pick apart and critique movies and books then you can get your point across in a more indirect manner by highlighting certain aspects of film to people that may be consuming it from a different perspective. It's quite alright to have other interests - and sometimes reality can be a chore to immerse yourself into. I've been neck deep in hobbies as many people are now-a-days and that's was a big reason for my former ignorance to a lot of these issues that are staring us all in the collective face now.

Balance in all things.

"Too much of anything makes you an addict" ~Nice and Smooth


RE: Other forums - --- - 05-18-2010

what was the forum if you don't mind someone asking..?

loads of forums are uptight. One you certainly would never get banned from if they had you is http://www.infinitysquared.com if it is still going, haven't been there for a long time. It's full of tweaked people and can be very brutal but the sense of humour is good.
ah. i just looked.it's gone. shame. it had a uniqueness as does here.


RE: Other forums - JFK - 05-18-2010

As one of seven Admins at the Loose Change forums I can say that I am no stranger to banning others.

We have an established set of rules ( which are somewhat flexable ) to which we adhere, and the bans may be reversed by either a majority concensus of Admins, or Dylan Avery's choice, because after all, It is his board.

Regardless, the things which will earn you a ban there are porn ( kiddie porn gets immediately forwarded to the FBI along with poster info by myself, and yes it happens on occasion ), spam, any discussion of no planes at the towers, and being purposefully disruptive... Especially in the specialized research forums.

Frankly I am amazed at how well most everyone here gets along and the lack of bans here.
This place is truly special in that respect.


RE: Other forums - Melchor - 05-18-2010

(05-18-2010, 02:37 PM)JFK Wrote: any discussion of no planes at the towers, and being purposefully disruptive...
LOL I'm personally not an advocate of the no planes thing, but I'm less a fan of viewpoint discrimination. Is that being disruptive catch all how LC excises criticisms of the Great One from Austin? When people are disruptive it can often open up legitimate debate. Those seem like bullshit controls to put on discussion to me. One person's different viewpoint could easily be another's disruption. I think in light of your experiences you should consider talking to the admins at LC about a change in policy. JMO. Not ripping you personally, I just think that's a bogus policy.


RE: Other forums - JFK - 05-18-2010

The "no planes" thing is Dylan's orders. He has personally interviewed enough normal everyday people in lower Manhatten who witnessed both planes to put that silliness to rest.

And actually he was rather tolerant unti


RE: Other forums - kevlar - 05-18-2010

right, but the media footage is not authentic. So i do not think it is "silliness put to rest". I mean come on, it is obvious that the pentagon was a missile. Well without going off on a no planes debate. Just saying that there is far more than enough reasonable research regards to no planes. What makes me wonder is that is like the main aspect which you ban over. What is the saying again ? if specific info is suppressed it is usually because it is correct. only once it has been offficially denied do you know that it is the truth.

but i understand that busy forums have a hard time of moderating. But the forums mods definitely don't like what i say. they say that i am trolling. there are some very usless and pathetic threads there that do not get closed etc. I guess they are just weak minded.


RE: Other forums - JFK - 05-18-2010

The "no planes" thing is Dylan's orders. He has personally interviewed enough normal everyday people in lower Manhatten who witnessed both planes to put that silliness to rest.

And actually he was rather tolerant until the no planers decided to quote him out of context on the matter.
His response : http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/754846/1/
Dylan Avery Wrote:I'm in Indiana with Korey working on a project and i have no internet access so i'm making this post from my phone. I'll make this short and simple. I was in la to go to a concert with jack blood. He asked if i wanted to go to venice and hang with warren. I said sure. I haven't seen any of these videos but i'm assuming it's something with warren yelling at passerbys. I thought it was entertaining but that's about it. Warren is a decent guy and was very hospitable towards jack and myself and i did not choose to get into an argument about theories with him. So i will now state for the record, as if this actually needs to be clarified, that i do not and will not ever support tv fakery or no wtc planes theories. Thanks for listening.

It was shortly after that that the "no plane discussion" ban went into effect.

His forum, His rules.

As far as "the great one from Austin" I am no fan of his... And in fact I personally think he is a raving lunatic. < shrugs >

By disruptive I meant like the JREFfers which take topics off topic on purpose with the sole intent of creating havoc... For example in the Pentagon forum steering the arguement towards WTC2's collapse serves absolutely no purpose for the forum but creating havoc... There is a seperate forum for each event. And after a while you can tell the difference between innocent arguements from the intentional sidetracks.
(05-18-2010, 06:34 PM)kevlar Wrote: right, but the media footage is not authentic. So i do not think it is "silliness put to rest". I mean come on, it is obvious that the pentagon was a missile. Well without going off on a no planes debate. Just saying that there is far more than enough reasonable research regards to no planes. What makes me wonder is that is like the main aspect which you ban over. What is the saying again ? if specific info is suppressed it is usually because it is correct. only once it has been offficially denied do you know that it is the truth.

but i understand that busy forums have a hard time of moderating. But the forums mods definitely don't like what i say. they say that i am trolling. there are some very usless and pathetic threads there that do not get closed etc. I guess they are just weak minded.

And now you are doing it... I am referring to the WTC, NOT the Pentagon.


RE: Other forums - kevlar - 05-18-2010

yea, i am not sure if you aware of 911movement.org and what happened there. That was from what i have found, on the cutting edge of the 911 investigation. People from all areas were there discussing what they had found. It was open to all ideas which was the key ingredient. But with that came some serious trolls. I went back after a years break and joined the discussion again. This one guy who had over 500 post kept persisting in nearly every thread that wtc 1 and 2 had a concrete core, even after we had shown him video of the construction and showed official blue prints. So you can see a pro troll in action. In the end the forums admin got threats against his family and closed the website. it is still down. You know when heat is that bad you are on to something, that forum was heavily into the no plane theory and the manipulation of the media had its own section.


RE: Other forums - JFK - 05-18-2010

LOL... Ahhh yes, ChristopherA. ( Concrete core ) According to him I am a disinfo agent because I showed him a pic of the unfinished lobby during construction ( with no concrete core ). I wonder if he still has those 2 paragraphs devoted to me and my "disinfo" on his website. LOL

But yes, if that is Killtown's forum I am aware of it. Killtown at one point had my utmost respect as far as his research goes.... Of course that was before he hooked up with the Webfairy and became a no planer ( @ the WTC ).