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Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
11-19-2011, 11:39 PM,
Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated

New Study: Vaccinated Children Have 2 to 5 Times More Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated Children

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A German study released in September 2011 of about 8000 UNVACCINATED children, newborn to 19 years, show vaccinated children have at least 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children.

The results are presented in the bar chart below; the complete data and study results are here. The data is compared to the national German KIGGS health study of the children in the general population. Most of the respondents to the survey were from the U.S.

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The data was collected from parents with vaccine-free children via an internet questionnaire by and Andreas Bachmair, a German classical homeopathic practitioner. The independent study is self-funded and is not sponsored by a large “credible” non-profit or government health organization with political and financial conflicts of interest; hence Bachmair relies on Google ads and donations for revenue. Each one of the 8000 cases are actual cases with medical documentation. Three other studies had similar results according to Bachmair and are reported below.

No study of health outcomes of vaccinated people versus unvaccinated has ever been conducted in the U.S. by CDC or any other agency in the 50 years or more of an accelerating schedule of vaccinations (now over 50 doses of 14 vaccines given before kindergarten, 26 doses in the first year). Most data collected by CDC is contained in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database. The VAERS is generally thought to contain only 3 to 5 percent of reportable incidents. This is simply because only some immediate reactions are reported by doctors; but many are not admitted to be reactions to the vaccine. Most importantly, the VAERS numbers are only immediate reactions, which I would place with a few hours to a few weeks. Long-term vaccine-induced diseases and disorders are not recognized by parents or doctors when these conditions develop perhaps a few months to five years or more and would never be realized to come from multiple vaccinations. In other words, many children and adults have diseases and disorders that are vaccine induced and they never suspect they are from the vaccines, as this study indicates.

The comparisons of the health of vaccine-free children with the health statistics of the general population are the same as comparing unvaccinated with vaccinated. This is simply because the general population of U.S. children are nearly 100 percent vaccinated.

Only four of the unvaccinated 8000 responded with severe autism (0.05%) and these were said to be high mercury cases. On the other hand, I had noticed the results show about a 1% rate for autism in the unvaccinated over 3 years old–about the same as vaccinated children. So I asked Bachmair why the data does not show significantly less. He told me he had invited many autism groups and internet autism lists to participate and thus skewed the results accordingly. If the true rate is 0.5%, I calculated that only 40 extra respondents (above the true average number) responded yes to autism, it would skew the results by a factor of 2. If the true rate is 0.25%, only 60 additional respondents (above the true average number) of the 8000 responded yes to autism, it would skew the results by a factor of 4. So it would not take many respondents from these lists to skew the results significantly.

The only other bias in this study may include the fact that parents of unvaccinated children are obviously concerned about the health risks of vaccines, and are more likely to make other healthier choices such as feeding their children a much better diet and using more natural remedies and using fewer pharmaceuticals.

Now half the U.S. children suffer from chronic diseases and disorders and 21% are developmentally disabled. Yet the public health system always uses the sacred mantra “vaccine-preventable diseases” when referring to their top public health achievement of mass vaccinations. I think we should be talking more in terms of preventable vaccine-induced diseases.

Other studies were cited by Andreas Bachmair

Salzburger Study

Results: of 1004 unvaccinated children, had

Asthma, 0% (8-12% in the normal population)

A-topic dermatitis 1.2% (10-20% in the normal population)

Allergies 3% (25% in the normal population)

ADHD 0.79% (5-10%) in children

Longterm Study in Guinea-Bissau (1 Kristensen I, Aaby P, Jensen H.:“Routine vaccinations and child survival: follow up study in Guinea-Bissau, West Africa”, BMJ 2000; 321: 1435–41)

The children of 15,000 mothers were observed from 1990 to 1996 for 5 years.

Result: the death rate in vaccinated children against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough is twice as high as the unvaccinated children (10.5% versus 4.7%).

New Zealand Survey (1992) (

The study involved 254 children. In which 133 children were vaccinated and 121 remained unvaccinated.

Symptom vaccinated unvaccinated
Asthma 20 (15%) 4 (3%)
Eczema or allergic rashes 43 (32%) 16 (13%)
Chronic otitis 26 (20%) 8 (7%)
Recurrent tonsillitis 11 (8%) 3 (2%)
Shortness of breath and sudden infant death syndrome 9 (7%) 2 (2%)
Hyperactivity 10 (8%) 1 (1%)
the IAS1992study now.

By Mr. Augie, Contributing Writer

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11-24-2011, 04:54 PM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
If you have the spare ten minutes it would be great if people could fill the questionnaire in and add to the statistics. Such a great idea.
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11-24-2011, 08:27 PM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
For the sake of my own retentiveness, the graphic in the article in full is this:

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The Herpes bar seems rather unsettling, but keep in mind that the herpes zoster virus is known as Shingles, and can be caused by both chicken pox and the chicken pox vaccine. See and a Web search for vaccine herpes cause for more details.

The effectiveness of vaccines have been called into question more frequently, it appears. Here's an instance where a meme can do good.
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger - The World In Action
11-25-2011, 12:56 AM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
And the more vaccinated kids parents that fill out the survey the better, because of course there will be more non-vaccinated looking at such information (well, at a general guess I'd have thought so anyway).
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21
11-25-2011, 05:21 AM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
Makes me murderous with anger what we unwittingly did to our son. My daughter was lucky as we were awake by then. Son has many allergies, though with careful organic lifestyle we control most, and daughter has none that are obvious. He also gets sick easier though we get right on it with colloidal silver and iodine and it's over in 3 days max.

I've tried in vain to stop many friends from vaccinating their kids but have had one success. Fuck the vaccine industry, Bill Gates, and those that push them.
11-25-2011, 02:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-25-2011, 02:02 PM by p4r4.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
Don't put them all in the same bag, due to vaccines some horrible diseases have been eradicated, Smallpox and Polio are some examples. It's good to be vigilant and suspicious of big pharmaceutical corporations but that does not mean you should become totally irrational about it.
11-26-2011, 12:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2011, 01:02 AM by rsol.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-25-2011, 02:01 PM)p4r4 Wrote: Don't put them all in the same bag, due to vaccines some horrible diseases have been eradicated, Smallpox and Polio are some examples. It's good to be vigilant and suspicious of big pharmaceutical corporations but that does not mean you should become totally irrational about it.

absolutely, however there is something to be said of the trade off. for fear of an in growing toenail, i dont think i want to lose the foot.

To be inoculated against 2-3 diseases but making you more susceptible to 10s of others... well.....

here comes the conspiracy part. dead patients dont spend money... ones with skin disorders or bronchial conditions pay very nicely. do they really look at the side effects without a dollar sign popping up in the equation?

Do you understand that risks and rewards are going to be thought about when deciding what types of drugs to "release"? Obviously anyone would be crazy to not think that companies hold things back as a reserve, or partition them for those that can afford it?

Most drugs can be produced at much the same price as the next, however they cost more depending on their market. have a disease that not many people have? that costs extra to treat/cure.

Look at the way companies in software will add something or leave something out so you need the next "upgrade" that's called a good business model. As they say "there are no problems, only opportunities" companies risk employees' and customers' lives alike if it costs less than saving them....look at how boeing does its equations on safety features vs law suits. if it cost less to settle death claims vs fitting entire fleets with a safety feature....take a guess.

to quote from wiki about the man who made the polio vaccine
Quote:His sole focus had been to develop a safe and effective vaccine as rapidly as possible, with no interest in personal profit. When he was asked in a televised interview who owned the patent to the vaccine, Salk replied: "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"
11-26-2011, 01:11 AM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
rsol, it sounds like the formula is...

Planned Obsolescence for all material items.
Planned Longevity (not quality) for all material buying humans.
Planned Obsolescence for all humans who do not "consume" enough.
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21
11-26-2011, 01:43 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2011, 01:46 AM by Bull Medicine.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-25-2011, 02:01 PM)p4r4 Wrote: Polio

Polio definition fraud
Polio vaccine contamination
Polio vaccine damage
Causes of polio
1. Diet
2. Provocation polio, injections & pesticides
3. Tonsillectomy
4. Hygiene
Polio cured

The polio death rate was decreasing on its own before the vaccine was introduced, and there is no credible scientific evidence that the vaccine caused polio to disappear. Cases of polio increased after mass inoculations.

The United States Centre for Disease Control (CDC) admitted that the vaccine has become the dominant cause of polio in the US today, with 87% of cases between 1973 and 1983 caused by the vaccine. More recently, 1980-1989, every case of polio in the US was caused by the vaccine. Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institute of Health during the 1950's were well aware that the Salk vaccine was ineffective and deadly. Some frankly stated that it was "worthless as a preventative and dangerous to take". The Salk "inactivated" or "killed-virus" was actually regulated to permit 5,000 live viruses per million doses.

A large vaccine trial in 1955 showed a total failure of the Salk vaccine to protect against poliomyelitis. During a 1959 epidemic in Massachusetts, 77.5% of the paralytic cases had received three or more doses of the inactivated vaccine.

In 1956 with the infamous Francis Field Trials they discovered large numbers of children contracted polio after receiving the vaccine. Instead of removing the vaccine from the market, they decided to exclude from the statistics all cases of polio that occurred within 30 days after vaccination on the pretext that such cases were "pre-existing".

In 1958 mass vaccination triggered a disastrous increase in polio, the highest being 700% in Ottawa, Canada. The highest incidence in the USA occurred in those states which had been induced to adopt compulsory polio shots(1).

Four of the five Salk vaccine companies ceased producing this vaccine due to its failure, and because of the lawsuits against them.

"Use of either Salk or Sabin vaccine will increase the possibility that your child will contact the disease. It appears that the most effective way to protect your child from polio is to make sure that he doesn't get the vaccine "---Dr Mendelsohn M.D.(1984).

Where polio vaccination programs have been instituted worldwide, reported polio infections show a 700% increase as a result of compulsory vaccination.


Statistics on polio were manipulated. One such way was to redefine the disease, renaming it "viral or aseptic meningitis" or "cocksackie virus". In one US county, for example, in July 1955 there were 273 cases of polio reported for 50 cases of asceptic meningitis, compared to 5 cases of polio in 1966 and 256 cases of aseptic meningitis. These new diagnostic guideline's were issued by the CDC. If you object to polio vaccination, and you get polio--it is usually called "polio." If you have been vaccinated and you get "polio", it is called meningitis(2).

Coxsackievirus and echoviruses can cause paralytic syndromes that are clinically indistinguishable from paralytic poliomyelitis. (John H. Menkes, Textbook Of Child Neurology, 5th ed., page 420)

"Dr. Thomas Francis did not mention in his key evaluation of the 1954 Salk field trials that those who contracted polio after their first innoculation and before their second inoculation were placed in the "not-inoculated" list.' (Maurice B. Bayly, The Story Of The Salk Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccine, 1956).

Dr. Buchwald responds that prior to the introduction of polio vaccinations in Germany, anyone was counted as having polio, even if they only had the virus in their feces. It is known, he goes on, that there are people who are healthy but who evacuate polio viruses when they go to the bathroom. Based on this criteria, the number of cases was approximately 4,000 per year. After the introduction of the vaccine, statistics included only those polio cases of people who were paralyzed for at least six weeks.--Testimony of Dr Buchwald MD

A former public health officer, Dr Ratner, reported that just before the introduction of the first polio vaccine the National Foundation For Infant Paralysis was paying physicians $25 for each reported diagnosis. "A patient would walk into a doctors office with a limp from an accident. He'd say he had a fever a few days ago...and guess what the diagnosis would be?" It was well known Paralytic polio cured itself 50% of the time within 60 days. After the Salk vaccine was introduced, the definition of polio was changed by the CDC. Now, in order to have paralytic polio, you had to have it longer than 60 days(16).

Because the Salk vaccine was promoted as being incapable of causing polio, cases that occurred following administration of the vaccine were denied, and excluded from the Vaccine injury table(4)

Many doctors refuse to report vaccine reaction, and I worked out that of over 200 families of vaccine damaged children contacting JABS, the support group, only about 3% had been reported damaged by their doctor. In the USA the FDA admits that 90% of vaccine damage cases go unreported(4).

Dr. Bernard Greenberg, a biostatistics expert, was chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. He testified at a panel discussion that was used as evidence for the congressional hearings on polio vaccine in 1962. During these hearings he elaborated on the problems associated with polio statistics and disputed claims for the vaccine's effectiveness. He attributed the dramatic decline in polio cases to a change in reporting practices by physicians. Less cases were identified as polio after the vaccination for very specific reasons. "Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization and was being community-minded in reporting a communicable disease. The criterion of diagnosis at that time in most health departments followed the World Health Organization definition: "Spinal paralytic poliomyelitis: signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart." Note that "two examinations at least 24 hours apart" was all that was required. Laboratory confirmation and presence of residual paralysis was not required. In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials: residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset.... This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer-lasting paralysis. Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from paralytic poliomyelitis. Prior to 1954 large numbers of these cases undoubtedly were mislabeled as paralytic poliomyelitis. Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic criteria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease in 1955-1957, whether or not any vaccine was used.

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection"---Dr Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

Health officials convinced the Chinese to rename the bulk of their polio to Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS). A study found that the new disorder (Chinese Paralytic syndrome) and the GBS was really polio (41). After mass vaccination in 1971, reports of polio went down but GBS increased about 10 fold.

"In the WHO polio vaccine eradication in the Americas, there were 930 cases of paralytic disease—all called polio. Five years later, at the end of the campaign, roughly 2000 cases of paralytic disease occurred—but only 6 of them were called polio (41). The rate of paralytic disease doubled, but the disease definition changed so drastically that hardly any of it was called polio any more."—Greg Beattie

"They started vaccinating in 1985 (in the Americas). Within 4 months they had 350 cases…They caused a substantial, huge outbreak of polio but they started ‘discarding’ most of the cases (put as flaccid paralysis)."—Viera Scheibner (42).

Chronic Fatigue: A polio by another name

Bruno RL, et al. Parallels between post-polio fatigue and chronic fatigue syndrome: a common pathophysiology? Am J Med. 1998 Sep 28;105(3A):66S-73S. PMID: 9790485; UI: 99005146.


"All vaccination has the effect of directing the three values of the blood into or toward the zone characteristics of cancer and leukaemia...Vaccines do predispose to cancer and leukaemia." Professor L. Vincent - founder of Bioelectronics

During the 1950's and 60's millions of people were contaminated with a cancer-causing monkey viruses called SV1 to SV40 (simian virus) from the polio vaccines due to using kidneys from the Rhesus macaques monkey to make the vaccines. Of these SV40 (the 40th one found!) was the most researched. It is commonly used by scientists to induce genetic changes in other viruses. In animals it causes large numbers to develop sarcomas (cancer), and decreases protein production leading to muscle wasting---symtoms of AIDS. The administration of Salk vaccine, in New Zealand (1956-66), with SV40 was related to the appearance of SSPE, 100 times greater than expected(1).

A study of 58,000 women who had received the IPV (killed virus) during the time that SV40 contaminated the vaccine (1959-1965) showed a thirteenfold increased risk of brain tumours in their children.

Another virus from monkeys--respiratory syncytial (RS) was found in the polio vaccine in 1956, where a relationship was found to respiratory tract illness.

That monkey viruses can be deadly was demonstrated when over 10 vaccine researchers died, after being bitten by monkeys, from monkey B virus--a herpes virus. One of these was a colleague of Sabin in 1932.

In 1976 researchers at the US bureau of Biologics found that 3 samples of Lederle polio vaccine contained between 1,000 and 100,000 simian viruses per ml. of vaccine, a much higher concentration than later safety regulations allowed (Kyle, 1992).

Not forgetting the slaughter of thousands of monkeys to make these vaccines.

A mass polio vaccination in Finland (1985) resulted in a higher incidence of Guillain-Barre (GBS) cases in the first two quarters (16 total) compared to a mean incidence of GBS in the population of 3 cases per quarter during a 6 year surveillance period, 1981-1986. Ten of these were diagnosed within 10 weeks after vaccination with OPV. The Vaccine Safety Committee has acknowledged that OPV causes both paralytic polio and Guillain-Barre syndrome.

Louis Pascal has demonstrated that AIDS originated in the Belgian Congo as a direct result of mass oral polio vaccination which was contaminated with another monkey virus---the simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) and bovine retrovirus, again as a result of using African Green monkey and calves kidneys to make vaccines. If the green monkey had anything to do with AIDS it was through generously "donating" it's kidneys(1).

The AIDS virus is called Human T-Cell lymphoma/leukemia virus 3, or HTLV 3, since changed to HIV. Very similar to the monkey leukemia virus HTLV 4 (SIV), and almost identical to Visna sheep virus and Bovine Leukemia virus (BLV). Human Leukemia virus is HTLV 1, which looks like BLV and causes the same kind of disease in humans as it does in cattle, and is also virtually identical to STLV 1, another monkey virus(12). Myers et al (1992) asked whether HIV might simply be SIV adapting to a human host(1).

It doesn't take much to see how the polio vaccine can cause leukemia in children. "Many here voice a silent view that the Salk and Sabin vaccine, being made of monkey kidney tissue....has been directly responsible for the major increase in leukemia in this country"---Dr Klenner, M.D.(19)

"Within a few years of the polio vaccine we started seeing some strange phenomena like the year before the first 300,000 does were given in the United States childhood leukaemia had never struck in children under the age of two. One year after the first onslaught they had the first cases of children under the age of two that died of leukaemia........ Dr Herbert Radnor observed that in a small area of this little town, in an area where no cases of leukaemia had been expected or at the most one in 4 years according to previous statistics, they suddenly had a rash like an epidemic within a few blocks"---Dr Snead

Leukemia also has a mercury component, also found in the DPT, Hib, & Hep B vaccines with the mercury solution Thimerosal. A dentist, Dr Pinto, cured a girl of Leukemia by removing her mercury amalgam fillings. To prove his point, to her sceptical doctor, he replaced the amalgam, and the leukemia came back. He removed them again and the Leukemia went away again(17)

Mercury is used in laboratories to induce auto-immune disease in animals(17). Formaldehyde, found in the polio, HepB, and DPT vaccines is a known carcinogen. The DTP also contains sodium chloride, sodium hydroxide, hydrochloric acid and aluminium. The MMR contains neomycin, an antibiotic. The Hib also contains saccarides, sodium chloride & aluminium hydroxide. The Hep B also contains aluminium hydrochloride and sodium chloride(4).

"Thimerosol is the preservative in immunisation shots, so anytime you get an immunisation shot you are undergoing the same procedure that in the University Lab that we used to give animals auto-immune disease---give a little tiny injection of mercury. And when you get an immunisation shot you are getting a little tiny dose of mercury there."---Hall Huggins DDS

Three shots of these chemicals and metals plus bacteria and viruses: diptheria, pertussis, tetanus, influenza type b, (plus hepatitis B in America), & 3 types of polio with the DPT, Hib, and Polio vaccines into babies before 4 months of age! Then the MMR at 12-18 months. Then again at 4 years. Twenty one vaccine mixtures before 5 years.

"Even to this day, the government, the FDA is refusing to use the sophisticated biotechnology to evaluate the contaminants in the vaccines such as the polio vaccines that they are administering. I think (people) would be appalled that some of the vaccines that are being currently being used are still laced with viruses,"—Leonard Horowitz., D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.


In Polio Network News, 1992, it was reported that 4,236 petitions have been filed with the US Claims Court for injuries and deaths caused by polio vaccination(18).

One woman in New Zealand in 1983 had both legs amputated after a "dirty" polio shot containing SV40 was administred. This was after 10 years of suffering(14).

The FDA recently permitted the live polio vaccine to be released for use even though it did not meet existing safety standards. After losing a court case they rewrote their rules so these previously unacceptable safety measures would be allowable(4).

To add insult to injury the UK government will take you through hell before they admit liability, and then offer derisory amounts, and then only if you are over 80% damaged! All the "expert witnesses" are members of the allopathic medical profession; as vaccination (and the companies who make the vaccines) is one of the pillars of allopathy they are not exactly impartial.

The Wellcome company recently gave up making vaccines as "there was too much litigation and too little profit".

In the US from 1990-1993 (3yrs) the FDA counted 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. They admit only 10% are reported which puts the real figure at over 500,000. A comparative figure for the UK would be 45,000 per year, although we would be less as we have not mandated vaccines(4).

The Polio Connection of America & Polio vaccine victims:

Considering deaths alone we now had an estimate of over 3000 individuals from 1961.

Our curiosity thus was aroused and the net result is that we began our own investigation. We commissioned an OPV Vaccine Report and started making all kinds of other inquires. The OPV Vaccine report that we received was a shocking report. It covered a recent period a little less than 5 years and the following is the summary for that period: The number of Vaccine Associated events that occurred: 13,641

The number of events requiring emergency room visits 6,364

The number of life threatening events 236

The number of events requiring hospitalization 1726

The number of events with unknown recovery status 1695

The number of events resulting in permanent disability 133

The number of events resulting in death 540

It now seems we have discovered a Second Polio Deception and it is not Splendid! It seems we have exposed this nonsense of 8-10 cases of vaccine associated Poliomyelitis (VAP) each year’ for what it is and as the saying goes we seem to have opened Pandora's Box. We also wonder how a figure of 8-10 VAP per year can be arrived at when there are in a full 5 years over 1,695 events (330 events per year) with unknown recovery status. How can any figure be valid with so many unknowns?

Polio vaccine adverse reactions


1.) Diet: Stephen Cooter found that the description of an acute polio virus infection is almost identical to vitamin B1 deficiency caused damage, Beri Beri. This is commonly caused by dextrose and alcohol as well as eating white rice.

Klenner, Southern Medicine & Surgery, April, 1951

"... review[ing] the findings of McCormick in 50 confirmed cases of poliomyelitis in and around Toronto, Canada, during the epidemic of 1949... families eating brown bread who came down with poliomyelitis did not develop paralysis; whereas in those families eating white bread many of the children having poliomyelitis did develop paralysis. The point here is that brown bread has 28 times more vitamin B1 than does white bread. Obviously, then, the paralysis which complicates acute poliomyelitis appears to be due to a B1 avitaminosis."

Dr Sandler in 1949 warned the residents of North Carolina to decrease consumption of ice cream, soda pop, and artificially sweetened products in hot weather. The incidence of polio dropped by 90%(20).

"Intensive research during the past twelve years on the relationship between diet and susceptibility to infection, not only in polio but also in common respiratory infections and tuberculosis, has convinced me that the human organism can protect itself against infection virtually completely by proper nutrition."--Dr Sandler 1952

Dr McCormick pointed out that the first case of polio was reported in Vienna one year after roller-mill white flour was first sold there. He calls polio the form of beri-beri that follows the use of degerminated flour(2).

Another factor is the protection provided by human milk. Vaccination could not be successfully admintered to breast fed babies.

Dr George Starr claimed that "every case of infantile paralysis he had been able to check up on had been the victim of denatured (pasteurised) milk", and his observation that, "a child has never been known to have infantile paralysis if the nursing mother took fruit juice in the place of milk and that, similarly, no child was ever known to have infantile paralysis if fed on fruit juice instead of milk".

"The milling of wheat destroys 40% of the chromium, 86% of the cobalt, 68% of the copper, 78% of the zinc, and 48% of the molybdenum. By the time it is completely refined it has lost most of its phosphorus, iron and riboflavin, as well most fiber. Wheat flour has been plundered of most of its vitamin E, important oils and amino acids. White bread also turns to glucose as quick as white sugar (This is the staple diet of the majority).

Enriched and vitamin fortified foods are an outlandish rip-off...after enrichment white flour has less than half the calcium, a third the phosphorous and potassium. In one experiment 2/3rds of the rats kept on a 90 day diet of enriched bread died before the experiment was finished!. The 8 vitamins sprayed on most "fortified" breakfast cereals represent only a small portion of the nutrients originally present---not to mention fibre which has been removed almost entirely".---Paul Stitt (food scientist).

Dr Melvin Page D.D.S. found that when he was able to get patients to achieve a calcium level 2 1/2 times that of phosphorus, degenerative diseases disappeared. The prime agents to cause an imbalance in the phosphorus calcium ratio are animal products (meat has a 20-1 ratio) sugar and soft drinks. (The average yearly sugar intake is 110 lbs. Average soft drink intake in the USA is 1-2 cans. Soft drinks are highly acidic, about 2.5 pH. It would take 32 glasses of alkaline water of pH 10 to neutralise one glass of cola.)

Dr Hal Higgins D.D.S states that pasteurised milk will rot your teeth at twice the rate of sugar.

"Pasturised milk is dangerous and destructive. It causes disease. It has not one redeeming quality. All it does is mask spoiled milk so that big business can make big money".---H. Diamond, nutritionist.

Dr Gordon Stewart, Prof of Epidemiology and Pathology, states that polio and other viruses can be carried for months, even years with no effect. According to Dr Dennis Geffen, of every 100 people who contract polio virus, 90% remain symptomless; 9% only develop slight signs of the illness such as a stiff neck or sore throat, whilst only 1% develop definite paralysis.

"Viruses and bacteria are not the sole cause of infectious disease, there is something else".—Prof Rene Dubois.

2) Provocation polio from vaccines, antibiotics & pesticides such as DDT

"The oral polio vaccine is not a deep puncture wound, but the magnitude of the assault of the vaccine strain of virus (ironically more virulent than the wild virus) with the accompanying toxins and the interference with the gut flora, i.e. still harming the outer levels of defence, still appears to have a sensitisation effect. Further, when you realise that we needed vaccination to provoke polio in the first place, with the first known outbreak not occurring until mass smallpox vaccination 100 years ago, well then you realise that avoiding the administration of the other vaccines almost entirely removes any threat of polio anyway."--Bronwyn Hancock

Not only did the polio vaccine have nothing to do with the decline of paralytic polio (or polio in general), evidence shows that vaccinations for this and other diseases, notably diptheria, triple antigen (diptheria, pertussis and tetanus) and smallpox - were responsible for its increase. The decline of cases not caused by vaccination began to disappear in the West with improvements in hygiene and sanitation and most of the decline occurred well before the widespread use of polio vaccination.

The following information by the National Anti-Vivisection Society (UK) gives some insight into the relationship between the diptheria and triple antigen vaccines and paralytic polio:

"The early triple vaccine against diphtheria, whooping cough and tetanus had also been shown beyond doubt to cause paralytic polio in some children to whom it was administered. The incidence of polio in children recently vaccinated against diphtheria was statistically greater than in unvaccinated children, symptoms showing in the vaccinated limb with 28 days of the initial injection. This scandal broke in Britain during 1949, an epidemic year for polio, other reports soon following from Australia. Papers dealing with this topic are plentiful.

One, British, gives details of 17 cases of polio which followed 28 days or less after various injections.

Another, Australian, gives details of 340 cases of polio, 211 of which had been previously vaccinated against whooping cough and/or diphtheria. Of these, 35 had been vaccinated within the preceding 3 months and a further 30 within the previous year. Dr Geffen reported similar findings from the London borough of St Pancras, where 30 children under the age of 5 developed polio within four weeks of being immunised against diphtheria or whooping cough or both, the paralysis affecting, in particular, the limb of injection. Two medical statisticians at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine examined these reports and concluded that:

"In the 1949 epidemic of poliomyelitis in this country cases of paralysis were occurring which were associated with innoculation procedures carried out within the month preceding the recorded date of onset of the illness."

Dr Arthur Gale of the Ministry of Health reported 65 cases from the Midlands, where paralysis followed about two weeks after an injection: in 49 of these, paralysis occurred in the injected limb. Then it was reported that of 112 cases of paralysis admitted to the Park Hospital, London, during 1947-1949, 14 were paralysed in the limb which had received one or more of a course of immunising injections within the previous two months. In the majority of cases, the interval between the last injection and the onset of paralysis was between 9 and 14 days. Again, combined whooping cough, diphtheria and tetanus injections were involved.

This outbreak of polio followed an intensive immunisation campaign during that time, 1947-49. Following these findings, the Ministry of Health recommended that diphtheria and triple vaccines should not be used in areas where polio was naturally present. "From that time onwards, the incidence of paralytic polio decreased rapidly in Britain, even prior to the advent of Salk vaccination...."

"Provocation polio. That is the truth about those outbreaks of polio. And I offer a well considered personal opinion that polio is a man made disease."—Viera Scheibner (42).

A recent Romanian study demonstrated that injections of antibiotics following polio vaccination could cause polio. The researchers suggested the rate of "vaccine-induced polio" in Romania could be reduced from 10.3 per year to 1.4 per year, if antibiotic injections were avoided for 30 days following polio vaccination (41).
Correlations with the injections of antibiotics were found: a single injection within one month of vaccination raised the risk of polio 8 times, 2 to 9 injections raised the risk 27-fold, and 10 injections or more raised the risk 182 times (Washington Post, Feb 22, 1995). Study Associates Polio Increase With (antibiotic) Injections

A study in India suggested that ¾ of cases of paralytic polio in the past decade were caused or made more severe by unnecessary injections (41) (The Lancet vol 341)).

Provocation polio


"Today, various other forms of the the word "polio" are still used to describe the effects of poisoning, though usually with regard to paralysis in animals. A search of Medline ("polio" and "poison") finds about 45 contemporary articles where poisoning causality is attributed to polio. The terminology found was: "polioencephalomalacia", "poliomyelomalacia", "polyradiculoneuritis", "neurological picture similar to that of poliomyelitis", "polioencephalomyelomalacia", "lumbal poliomyelomalacia", "cerebrocortical necrosis (polioencephalomalacia)", "Lead poisoning in grey-headed fruit bats (Pteropus poliocephalus)", "multifocal-poliomyelomalacia", "spinal poliomalacia", "Polio and high-sulfate diets", "Atypical porcine enterovirus encephalomyelitis: possible interraction between enteroviruses and arsenicals", "Polioencephalomalacia and photosensitization associated with Kochia scoparia consumption in range cattle", "bovine polioencephalomalacia". ---Jim West, Health and Research Publications,

"When the population is exposed to a chemical agent known to produce in animals lesions in the spinal cord resembling those in human polio, and thereafter the latter disease increases sharply in incidence and maintains its epidemic character year after year, is it unreasonable to suspect an etiologic relationship?"---Biskind.

"Since the end of combat in the Phillipines, poliomyelitis has been among the leading causes of death in American troops. Even though only the paralytic cases are reported from there, the incidence of poliomyelitis in American troops in the Phillipines has been at least ten times as high as in the Army within the continental limits of the U.S. during the past two years. Actually, I believe that it is even higher because hundreds of cases which would have been diagnosed as dengue-like or sandfly-like fevers... under conditions which , in my opinion, would preclude the occurrence of both dengue and sandfly fever. And yet checks of the surrounding native population revealed no outbreaks of poliomyelitis."---Albert Sabin (Clinical Intoxication from DDT )

Citation with OPs as risk factor for GBS/polio
Third of ME cases are pesticide-related

First polio epidemic--1887 Sweden. Patent of first pesticide sprayer---1873.

3.) Tonsillectomy: Doctor’s are starting to think that the polio epidemics of the 1940’s and 1950’s may have been caused by the high number of tonsillectomies done in the 1920’, 30’s and 40’s. They have discovered that the only area of the body that can synthesize the antibody to poliomyelitis is the tonsils. If you don’t have tonsils you can’t fight off polio.

"During the polio epidemics it was found that people who had their tonsils removed were 3-5 times more likely to develop paralysis….There were many at that time that suggested that polio was an iatrogenic disease…..we caused thousands of cases of paralysis. We did not cause the polio , but we converted people who would have recovered from a vial illness into people with a paralytic illness."—Dr mark Donohue (41)

The paralysis associated with tonsillectomy was a type called ‘bulbar’—the worst, involving the lungs (41).
4.) Hygiene. In an outbreak in Taiwan of 1.031 cases in 1982 they found children were 5 times more likely to contract polio if they received non-municipal water rather than municipal water.


Within 2 years after the discovery of ascorbic acid, Jungeblut showed it would inactivate the virus of poliomyelitis. This was pre-Salk. In 1949 Dr Klenner described his successful treatment of polio using Vitamin C, with many dramatic case histories(5).

97-100% recovered under correct Hygienic treatment
91%-100% recovered under certain chiropractic care
Polio poster girl cured

72% recovered under Nurse Kenny treatment
35% recovered with no professional care
17% recovered under medical care(8)! (Except for Klenner, who is really Nutritional/Orthomolecular/Metabolic Medicine)

Vitamin C in Acute Poliomyelitis: Greer, Medical Times, November 1955 "Large doses of vitamin C have proven beneficial in the management of five serious cases of acute poliomyelitis."

The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C:

Klenner, Southern Medicine & Surgery, July, 1949 "The treatment employed [in the poliomyelitis epidemic in North Carolina in 1948, 60 cases] was vitamin C in massive doses... given like any other antibiotic every two to four hours. The initial dose was 1000 to 2000 mg., depending on age. Children up to four years received the injections intramuscularly ... For patients treated in the home the dose schedule was 2000 mg. by needle every six hours, supplemented by 1000 to 2000 mg. every two hours by mouth ... dissolved in fruit juice ... All patients were clinically well after 72 hours. Where spinal taps were performed, it was the rule to find a reversion of the fluid to normal after the second day of treatment.

Another legacy of vaccines is the suppression of cures such as vitamin C and the suppression of the nutritional cause and prevention of polio. Of course, an easily cured disease would threaten the billion pound vaccine industry (and food processing & sugar industries) as well as show people the true cause of disease: germs arise through pleomorphism (form changing) of cells into bacteria, viruses, and fungi from a diseased/toxemic condition. Disease creates germs, not germs create disease. Flies do not create garbage, they just arrive to clear up the mess, like germs. Of course if your body is polluted/diseased or what is called toxemic then it is just the place for any germs from another diseased body to jump ship and tuck in. The immune system will also be in a depleted state due to the toxemia of waste products from cell breakdown. "There are no specific diseases only specific disease conditions"---Florence Nightingale. Witness the recent cases of TB in "down and outs". One source of TB infection was traced to a man who drank 18 pints of lager every night(30/31/14).

Acceptance of the theory of contagion is contingent upon the germ theory of disease---that specific bacteria and "viruses" produce specific disease symptoms. This theory has been repeatedly demonstrated as incorrect in the scientific field, and was even admitted by Pasteur as incorrect.

Nevertheless, the germ theory and the belief of contagion is difficult to overcome since almost everyones mind has similarly been "infected" by exploitive "health care" industries that have a vested interest in disease and suffering and in perpetuating such erroneous beliefs. Basically the populace believes what the medical establishment wants it to. These false theories maintain demand for drugs, medical and hospital practices, and they are the only ones that teach that health is recovered by administrating poisonous drugs. If germs play any role in the causation of disease, it is never a primary one but is always secondary to those causes that lower our resistance or impair health. (A.Baker, M.A.)

"Diseases are crises of purification, of toxic elimination"--Hippocrates(10).

"There is but one cause of disease, poison toxemia, most of which is created in the body by faulty living habits and faulty elimination"--Sir A. Lane, 80 years ago(10).

The germ theory came from Louis Pasteur, a chemist, who has been found to be a fraud, and plagarist of Prof Antoine Beachamp (erased from the history books) a genius contemporary of his who discovered the true theory of disease. Even Pasteur on his death bed admitted "the terrain is everything". It was a tradegy for the man in the street that Pasteur's theory became the dogma, but very fruitful to the medical establishment who have frightened him rigid with germs ever since while fleecing him in the process.

"To believe that sickness results solely from the visitation of some itinerant germ or virus and to accept treatment by some poisonous drug is to be found guilty of the most naive superstition".--Dr D. Phillips

"I have myself, through Natural Hygiene, over 16 years, treated all forms and hundreds of cases of typhus and typhoid fevers, pneumonia's, measles and dysentery's, and have not lost a single patient. The same is true of scarlet and other fevers. No medicine whatever was given".--Dr Trall, 1860.



1. Vaccination, The Medical Assault on the Immune System--Dr V.Scheibner
2. Immunisation, The Reality Behind The Myth---Walene James
3. Immunisation. Are They Really Safe And Effective?---Neil Miller
4. Immunisation. Theory vs Reality---Neil Miller
5. Vitamin C, Natures Miraculous Healing Missile---Dr Kalokerinos M.D.
6. Vaccination. Social Violence and Criminality---Harris Coulter
7. The Cancer Solution---Dr R. Willner M.D. Ph.D.
8. Immunity. Why Not Keep It---Lisa Lovett N.D.
9. Vaccinations. How Safe & Effective?---Ian Sinclair. N.D.
10. Health---The Alternative To Vaccines--Ian Sinclair
11. Immunisation----Leon Chaitow
12. AIDS and The Doctors of Death-----A. Cantwell M.D.
13. Confessions of A Medical Heretic---R. Mendelsohn, M.D.
14. The AIDS Time Bomb----J. West, Ph.D.
15. The Medical Mafia---G. Lanctot, M.D.
16. AIDS Incorporated: Scandal of the Century---Jon Rappoport.
17. It's All In Your Head---H.Huggins, D.D.S.
18. Beating Chronic Ilness---S.Cooter.
19. Animal Research Takes Lives---B.Overell.
20. Vaccines: The Modern Plague---P. Rattigan
21. The Blood Poisoners---L. Dole
22. Immunisation---R. Moskowitz (Homeopath).
23. The Great Medical Fraud-----Hans Ruesh
24. Dirty Medicine--Martin Walker
25. Racketeering in Medicine
26. Murder by Injection. The American Medical Association Conspiracy against America--
27. The Cancer Industry--Ralph Moss Ph.D.
28. Pasteur--Plagarist, Imposteur!---Pearson
29. Natural Therapeutics. Vol 2. Practice----Henry Lindlahr, M.D.
30. Awaken Self Healing Body (Natural Hygiene)----
31. The Cancer Microbe---Dr A. Cantwell, M.D.
32. Every Second Child----Dr Kalokerinos, M.D.
41. Vaccination by Greg Beattie
42. Diet Prevents Polio Dr Sandler 1952


32. Vaccination---Nightingale (Epoch Magazine 1983)
33. The Origin of AIDS---Tom Curtis (Rolling Stone Magazine, 19/4/1992).
34. Asthma and the DPT vaccine----Dr Odent, M.D.
35. Dr Eva Snead on Vaccines
36. Dr Viera Scheibner on vaccines
37. For An Informed Choice
38 Dentistry and The Immune System--H.Huggins, D.D.S.
39. Ralph Moss on Chemotherapy.
40. Dangers & Ineffectiveness of Vaccines-----V. Scheibner. Ph.D.
42. Vaccination: The Hidden Truth (tel: 612 4787 8203 Australia) (UK: Informed Parent)
Books UK: Whale Books, PO Box 38, Hereford, UK. Tel: 01981 240 125.
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11-26-2011, 07:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2011, 07:59 AM by nwo2012.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-25-2011, 02:01 PM)p4r4 Wrote: Don't put them all in the same bag, due to vaccines some horrible diseases have been eradicated, Smallpox and Polio are some examples. It's good to be vigilant and suspicious of big pharmaceutical corporations but that does not mean you should become totally irrational about it.

No you are wrong. If you had done your research, and it takes like 5 minutes to look at the graohs (not the short range ones used deceptively by pro-vaccine muppets) to see that ALL 'infectious' diseases were already in rapid decline before vaccines were introduced. And in fact the vaccines caused large outbreaks of the diseases they are supposed to prevent. Thanks Bull Medicine.

Sorry but there is NO reason to have ANY vaccine. A healthy organic lifestyle with natural remedies such as colloidal silver, herbs and therapies (e.g Gerson) is all the protection you need.

Final retort is that you are the "irrational" one, I thoroughly researched the topics whereas you clearly read and fell for the propaganda.
11-26-2011, 11:59 AM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
one word answer to that. tetanus. baby..bathwater....
11-26-2011, 04:12 PM,
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-26-2011, 11:59 AM)rsol Wrote: one word answer to that. tetanus. baby..bathwater....


Are you suggesting I get my daughter to have the tetanus shot then? Sadly my son's had one, he had the whole first couple of doses of vaccines, and then we learned what was in them, I spent months looking into it, at a very difficult time in our lives too. We stopped allowing the shots of course, and our daughter has had none.

The energy levels, illnesses, appetite, general behaviour, interactiveness, all are less in our son. He also has extreme skin reactions to various things. He is getting better, the longer it's been since the last shots (Over 2 years now), but our daughter's biggest issue has been falling from things due to being adventurous, rather than any health issues.
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11-27-2011, 08:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 09:02 AM by nwo2012.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-26-2011, 04:12 PM)Dunamis Wrote:
(11-26-2011, 11:59 AM)rsol Wrote: one word answer to that. tetanus. baby..bathwater....


Are you suggesting I get my daughter to have the tetanus shot then? Sadly my son's had one, he had the whole first couple of doses of vaccines, and then we learned what was in them, I spent months looking into it, at a very difficult time in our lives too. We stopped allowing the shots of course, and our daughter has had none.

The energy levels, illnesses, appetite, general behaviour, interactiveness, all are less in our son. He also has extreme skin reactions to various things. He is getting better, the longer it's been since the last shots (Over 2 years now), but our daughter's biggest issue has been falling from things due to being adventurous, rather than any health issues.

You are an incredible person.

Rsol do you even know wtf you are talking about? Healthy people, including kids and babies, do not catch tetanus from bath water so you are talking crap. Try again, and to think I used to think you knew what you are talking about.

Quote:The next vaccine in this group is Tetanus. Tetanus occurs when a wound is not properly cleaned and the germ is trapped in the wound and cut off from oxygen. Typically this would be a puncture wound where the skin would close up quickly leaving infection underneath as with a rusty nail. Wounds that bleed will never result in tetanus because the tetanus bacillus is anaerobic. Information taken from the insert from the pharmaceutical company who manufactures the drug  states, “This is primarily a disease of older adults.” Newborns typically are not in danger of being punctured by a rusty nail.  Neonatal Tetanus occurs among babies born under unhygienic conditions. The following information is written by Dr Sherri Tennpenny:

Tetanus is a disease caused by the Gram -- positive bacterium Clostridium tetani that exists in soil as a spore. High concentrations can be present if the soil has been contaminated with animal or human feces. In the presence of anaerobic (low oxygen) conditions, the spores can germinate and release a potent neurotoxin, called tetanospasmin, into the bloodstream.  Dirty, deep puncture wounds that are contaminated with soil are at greatest risk for infection. Wounds that are gangrenous, or injuries caused by frostbite, crush injuries, and burns are also at increased risk.

The incubation period prior to the onset of tetanus symptoms can take several days to several months, depending on the location of the inoculation. Once the spores germinate, the toxin is released into the bloodstream and travels to peripheral nerves, eventually attaching to receptor sites at the nerve endplates. The result is unrelenting, painful muscle spasm.

The four clinical types of tetanus are generalized, local, cephalic, and neonatal, with generalized tetanus being the most common. This form manifests as the classic spasms which can last from seconds to minutes. Death from tetanus is due to spasm of the vocal cords and spasm of the respiratory muscles, leading to respiratory failure.

The highest mortality rate for tetanus is seen in the very old and the very young, but on average, it is generally reported in most literature that the mortality rate is approximately 30%. Recovery can take months but is usually complete, unless unforeseen complications occur. Yes, you read it right, complete recovery.

It is an article of faith, widely accepted by doctors and patients alike, that tetanus is almost invariably fatal, especially if the person is not vaccinated. This fear is so deeply entrenched that I have personally seen patients dutifully wait in a busy emergency department for hours to get a tetanus shot because they had sustained a superficial cut while washing dishes.

Before I knew better, and because the "standard of care" dictates that every cut gets a tetanus shot, I handed these shots out like candy, believing it was better to "over protect" than to risk the development of a "fatal" case of tetanus.

Discovering that most people recover from an acute bout of tetanus was unexpected, but it was disconcerting to find that many of the reported cases of tetanus were in "fully vaccinated" people. A review of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) from the CDC called "Tetanus Surveillance -- United States, 1995 -- 1997] revealed unexpected information and facts. However, because this report is bogged down with complicated statistics that must be methodically disentangled, it is no wonder that few are aware of its contents.

The document discusses 124 cases of tetanus reported between 1995 and 1997. Here is what was reported:

Nearly twenty -- five percent (24.8%) of those who contracted acute tetanus had at least one dose of the vaccine and more than twelve percent (12.4%) of the patients were fully vaccinated, with three or more doses of tetanus. Of the 66 (53.7%) people who had an "unknown vaccination status," it could reasonably be assumed that a portion of those had had one or more tetanus shots at some point in their lives. Therefore, statement made by the CDC that "the disease continues to occur almost exclusively among persons who are unvaccinated, inadequately vaccinated or whose vaccination histories are unknown or uncertain" is simply not true.  The "rationale" for getting a tetanus shot is that milder cases will result among the vaccinated.  This is an argument used with all the mandated the vaccines Yet, given that the fatality rate (11.2%) is lower than reported and the apparently low incidence overall, the following questions should be asked:
1) What is the real risk of getting a severe case of tetanus if you are unvaccinated?

2) How many cases of serious tetanus would occur were all wounds cared for properly?

3) What antibody level actually confers protection from a serious case of tetanus?

The truth is, the antibody level required to be universally protective is unknown. The "generally accepted" protective level for tetanus antibody > 0.15 IU/mL. This level was proposed by Snead in1937, and has been the accepted "standard" since that time. However, the number is arbitrary and not guaranteed to protect from infection.  Therefore, routinely vaccinating every 10 years, as the journal article suggests, simply to maintain "adequate antibody levels" is uncalled for and may not only provide the person with a false sense of security, it may actually cause harm.  Tetanus vaccines haven't gotten the "bad press" many of the other vaccines have recently received. In the zeal to protect from this "deadly disease," it is imagined that the risk of infection far exceeds the potential risk of the vaccine. What harm could it do? I thought the vaccine only contained inactivated tetanus toxin and sterile water. I am convinced that is the perception of nearly all physicians. It was disturbing to learn of the other ingredients that are in the tetanus toxoid vaccine: formaldehyde; sodium phosphate monobasic; sodium phophate dibasic, [an eye and skin irritant that may be harmful if ingested]; glycine, aluminum, and 25 ug. of thimerosal (mercury). There is obviously more to the tetanus vaccine than inactivated toxoid! In the Emergency Department, if the tetanus status of a patient is "unknown," an additional shot is routinely given, because it is thought to be harmless. However, this is simply bad medicine. If the person doesn't need the tetanus booster, the vaccine can cause a severe allergic reaction referred to as an Arthus type, Type III hypersensitivity reaction.  This side effect is defined as "an acute inflammatory reaction caused by deposition of antigen -- antibody complexes into the tissues."
The "Arthus type" variation classically causes a reaction only at the injection site, but the result is an acute necrotizing vasculitis and localized necrosis (death) of the tissues.  The reaction starts 2 -- 8 hours after a tetanus toxiod injection and occurs if the person has very high serum antitoxin antibodies due to overly frequent injections. In addition to the local reaction, severe systemic reactions can occur. A partial list of adverse events includes headache; nausea; vomiting; arthralgias; tachycardia; syncope (fainting); cranial nerve paralysis; and a variety of neurological complications including EEG disturbances, seizures and encephalopathy; anaphylaxis and Gullian-Barre' syndrome. Recommending "routine" tetanus boosters based on mathematical models of antibody degradation can result in severe complications and is risky business, indeed.
But what about diphtheria? Do we need to keep our guard up about this infection?
Diphtheria is an infection caused by the gram -- positive bacteria, Corynebacterium diphtheriae, its name derived from a Greek work meaning "leather hide." Early symptoms include sore throat, malaise, and a low -- grade fever.  Although cutaneous diphtheria infections occur, the most common form of the infection occurs in the tonsils and pharynx. If not treated early, a grayish -- green membrane develops in the back of the throat which may lead to respiratory obstruction. Similar to tetanus, the complications from diphtheria are caused by a toxin released from the infecting bacteria. The severity of the disease is related to the amount of toxin that is absorbed systemically from the infection site. The most frequent complications caused by the toxin include cardiac arrhythmias and nerve paralysis involving the palate, eyes, limbs and diaphragm. Even with these extensive complications, complete recovery usually occurs within five weeks of onset.  Death occurs without medical support for the complications. Complete recovery? Here we go again…

There are many different species of Corynebacterium commonly found in soil, dust and contaminated water and most do not result in serious infection. In fact, most strains of C. diphthereae do not produce the disease -- causing toxin! Only when the bacteria has been infected by a specific virus, called a B phage, will the toxin be produced. The B phage contains the specific genetic information to code for the toxin, therefore, only strains infected with the virus cause severe disease. The important question, then, is, how often such an event occurs.
The article refers to a "recent outbreak" of diphtheria in the former Soviet Union as the primary reason to revaccinate. It is assumed that a decrease in vaccination rate was the most significant cause for the 1990 -- 1995 diphtheria outbreak in the Newly Independent States (NIS). This epidemic is often cited as the reason to maintain high vaccination rates. Let's take a closer look at what was happening in the Soviet Union at that time. In 1991, fifteen new countries had just become independent with the dissolution of the USSR and shortly thereafter, the infrastructure of the region completely collapsed. Garbage piled up in the streets of Moscow and other cities. Large refugee and migrant camps descended upon the major urban areas. Health care services, including disposable syringes and needles, were virtually non -- existent.

By 1995, Russia's annual health care budget was slightly less than 1 percent, about the same as the poorest African nations. Half of the country's 21,000 hospitals had no hot water, a quarter had no sewage systems, and several thousand had no water at all. In the operating rooms, truly sterile instruments were rare and blood was being washed off the hospital floor with a garden hose. More than 150,000 acute infections and nearly 5,000 deaths from diphtheria were estimated to have occurred between 1990 and 1998. However, even with the initiation of widespread immunization campaigns by the World Health Organization in 1994, more than 2,700 cases were still reported in 1998. Comparing what happened in the NIS to what might happen if antibody levels fall in the US, without taking into account the living conditions in each country, is an invalid comparison.

What about the vaccines?
There are several available vaccine choices: tetanus toxoid (TT); adult diphtheria toxoid plus tetanus toxoid (dT); pediatric diphtheria toxiod plus tetanus toxoid (DT) and tetanus immune globulin (TIG). The diphtheria vaccine is not obtainable separately Like the tetanus vaccine, the diphtheria vaccine is made from the toxin of C. diphtheriae. The bacteria is grown in a casein medium and the final product contains ammonium sulfate, residual formaldehyde, sodium bicarbonate, 0.3 mg aluminum phosphate and 25ug thimerosal. The tetanus toxoid vaccine (TT) was discussed previously and is the vaccine most commonly given. There are two forms of diphtheria vaccine, pediatric (D) and adult (d) and this vaccine is always given in combination with tetanus toxoid. Therefore, the pediatric vaccine is DT and the adult vaccine is dT. The distinction is made because the DT form contains 8 times more diphtheria toxoid than the dT form.  It is contraindicated to give the pediatric vaccine, DT, to adults or to children over the age of 7 years because of the increased the likelihood of side effects. Infants are given 4 doses of the DT form (as DTP or DTaP) during the first 12 months of life.  The result is that infants receive 32 times the dose of diphtheria toxin from the DT form than they would receive if the dT form was used. The reason the higher concentration is "safe" for smaller, younger children is unclear.  Tetanus Immune Globulin (TIG) is a vaccine that contains tetanus toxin antibodies derived from the plasma of donors previously vaccinated with tetanus toxoid. This vaccine is considered to give "passive immunization," meaning that the antibodies are supplied at the time of immediate need.  Peak antibody blood levels from this vaccine are obtained approximately 2 days after the injection and remain in circulation for approximately 23 days. TIG can be used following an acute injury in patients whose immunization status is unknown or incomplete. 
What are the other treatment choices?
Although proper wound hygiene has been known since the 1940's to be the best way to prevent infection, it tends to be overlooked as the best way to prevent tetanus. Regardless of immunization status, dirty wounds should be properly cleaned and crushed tissue should be surgically removed.
Diphtheria infections can be prevented by thorough hand washing and good nutrition.

Antibiotic regimens are available for the treatment of both tetanus and diphtheria infections. The Red Book™, published by the American

Academy of Pediatrics makes a suggestion for an alternative treatment for tetanus. The antibiotic, metronidazole (30 mg/kg/day) given at 6 -- hour intervals is effective in reducing the bacterial count in a wound. Metronidazole is the antibiotic of choice for dirty wounds. Another choice is injectable penicillin G (100 000 U/kg/day), given at 4 -- to 6 -- hour intervals. These therapies should be continued for 10 to 14 days.[14] It appears that a prophylactic course of antibiotics would be prudent for dirty wounds to prevent the possibility of C. tetani germination and toxin production. Additionally, there is an antibiotic treatment available for diphtheria infections. Erythromycin orally or by injection (40 mg/kg/day; maximum, 2 gm/day) or procaine penicillin G daily, intramuscularly (300,000 U/day for those weighing 10 kg or less and 600,000 U/day for those weighing more than 10 kg) can be given for 14 days. The disease is usually not contagious 48 hours after antibiotics are instituted. Elimination of the organism should be documented by two consecutive negative throat cultures after therapy is completed.[15] Indeed, since nearly every sore throat is treated by conventional medicine with an antibiotic, perhaps this is the reason for the decreased the incidence of diphtheria, and not the vaccine. A third option is to use the TIG vaccine at the time of acute injury. It appears that treatment with TIG is an adequate form of treatment. The package insert states the following:
"If a contraindication to using tetanus toxoid preparations exists for a person who has not completed a primary series of tetanus toxoid immunization and that person has a wound that is neither clean nor minor, only passive immunization should be given using tetanus immune globulin."

With all of these options available, routinely vaccinating adults to maintain an arbitrary antibody level should be considered inappropriate healthcare. In addition, knowing the real facts about these infections and being aware of the available treatment options should be a comfort to parents who choose not to vaccine.
 In 1948 two Harvard Medical School scientists, Randolph Byers and Frederick Moll carried out tests on the DPT at Children’s Hospital in Boston and concluded that severe neurological problems followed administration of the vaccine. The results were published in Pediatrics, a respectable medical journal. The results were completely ignored by the medical and pharmaceutical community.   In 1976, Charles Manclark, an FDA scientist, remarked, “The DPT had one of the worst failure rates of any product submitted to the Division of Biologics for testing.” 

Also, take a look at what  Dr. Mendelsohn says about Tetanus;

(The People's Doctor Newsletter 1976-1988)

You have every right to closely question me on the tetanus vaccine, since that was the last vaccine I abandoned. It wasn't hard for me to give up vaccines for whooping cough, measles, and rubella because of their disabling and sometimes deadly side effects. The mumps vaccine, a high-risk, low-benefit product, struck me and plenty of other doctors as silly from the moment it was introduced. Arguments for the diphtheria vaccine were vitiated by epidemics during the past 15 years which showed the same death rate and the same severity of illness in those who were vaccinated vs. those who were not vaccinated. As for smallpox, even the government finally gave up that vaccine in 1970, and I gave up on the polio vaccine when Jonas Salk showed that the best way to catch polio in the United States was to be near a child who recently had taken the Sabin vaccine. But the tetanus vaccine exercised a hold on me for a much longer time. As you point out, I gave up belief in this vaccine in stages. For a while, I still held onto the notion that farm families and people who work around stables should continue to take tetanus shots. But in spite of my early indoctrination with fear of "rusty nails," in recent years, I have developed a greater fear of the hypodermic needle. My reasons are:

1) Scientific evidence shows that too-frequent tetanus boosters actually may interfere with the immune reaction.

2) There has been a gradual retreat of even the most conservative authorities from giving tetanus boosters every one year to every two years to every five years to every 10 years (as now recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics), and according to some, every 20 years. All these numbers are based on guesses
rather than on hard scientific evidence.

3) There has been a growing recognition that no controlled scientific study (in which half the patients were given the vaccine and the other half were given injections of sterile water) has ever been carried out to prove the safety and effectiveness of the tetanus vaccine. Evidence for the vaccine comes from epidemiologic studies
which are by nature controversial and which do not satisfy the criteria for scientific proof.

4) The tetanus vaccine over the decades has been progressively weakened in order to reduce the considerable reaction (fever and swelling) it used to cause. Accompanying this reduction in reactivity has been a concomitant reduction in antigenicity (the ability to confer protection). Therefore, there is a good chance that today's tetanus vaccine is about as effective as tap water.

5) Until the last few years, government statistics admitted that 40 percent of the child population of the U.S. was not immunized. For all those decades, where were the tetanus cases from all those rusty nails?

6) There now exists a growing theoretical concern which links immunizations to the huge increase in recent decades of auto-immune diseases, e.g., rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus erythematosus, lymphoma, and leukemia. In one case, Guillain-Barre paralysis from swine flu vaccine, the relationship turned out to be more than just theoretical.

In preparing my courtroom testimony on behalf of a child who allegedly was brain-damaged as a result of the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus) vaccine, I reviewed the prescribing information (package insert) for the Connaught Laboratories product which was administered to this child. The 1975 and.1977 package insert information which measured seven-and-a-half inches long listed three scientific references in support of the indications, contraindications, warnings, cautions, and adverse reactions to this vaccine. By 1978, the length of the insert had grown to 13 1/2 inches, and the number of scientific references had increased to 11. By 1980, the package insert was 18 inches long, and the references numbered 14. Of those newly-added references, seven (three from U.S. medical journals and four from foreign medical journals) dealt specifically with reactions to the tetanus DPT portion of the (toxoid) vaccine.

An article in the Archives of Neurology (1972) described brachial plexus neuropathy (which can lead to paralysis of the arm) prom tetanus toxoid Four patients who received only tetanus toxoid noticed the onset of limb weak ness from six to 21 days after the inoculation. A 1966 article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association reports the first case of "Peripheral Neuropathy .following Tetanus Toxoid Administration." A 23-year- old white medical student received an injection of tetanus toxoid into his right upper arm after an abrasion of the right knee while playing tennis. Several hours later, he developed a wrist drop of his right
hand. He later suffered from complete motor and sensory paralysis over the distribution of the right radial nerve (one of the major nerves innervating the arm and hand) One month later, no residual motor or sensory deficit could be found.

Reference is made to an article in the Journal of Neurology, 1977, entitled "Unusual Neurological Complication following Tetanus Toxoid Administration." The author reports a 36-year-old female who received tetanus toxoid in her left upper arm following a wound to her finger. Five days later, she noticed a weakness first of the right, and then of the left and later of both legs. She complained of dizziness, instability, lethargy, chest discomfort, difficulty in swallowing, and inarticulate speech. S staggered when she walked, and she could take only a few steps. Her EEG showed some abnormalities. After a month, she was discharged without neurologic
disturbance, but she continued to feel weak and anxious. Examinations during the next 11 months showed continued emotional instability and some paresthesias (numbness and tingling) in the extremities. The medical diagnosis was "a rapidly progressing neuropathy with involvement of cranial nerves, myelopathy, and encephalopathy."

The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, 1973, carried an article entitled "Hypersensitivity to Tetanus Toxoid," and in a volume entitled "Proceedings of the II
International Conference on Tetanus" (published by Hans Huber, Bern, Switzerland, 1967), an article appeared entitled "Clinical Reactions to Tetanus Toxoid."

A 44-year-old article in the Journal of the American Medical Association (1940) was entitled "Allergy Induced by Immunization with Tetanus Toxoid." That same year, an article in the British Medical Journal reported on "Anaphylaxis (a form of shock) following Administration of Tetanus Toxoid." In 1969, a German medical journal reported a case of paralysis of the recurrent laryngeal nerve (the nerve to the voicebox) after a booster injection of tetanus toxoid. The patient developed hoarseness and was unable to speak loudly, but the nerve paralysis subsided completely after approximately two months.

Should your doctor reassure you that tetanus vaccine is completely safe, or that "the benefits outweigh the risks," or that you should have a shot "just in case," why not share these citations with him?
Enough for you, Rsol? Or maybe I misunderstood your reply, I hope so as then muppet would be a better nick for you.
11-27-2011, 12:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 05:31 PM by p4r4.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
(11-26-2011, 07:11 AM)nwo2012 Wrote:
(11-25-2011, 02:01 PM)p4r4 Wrote: Don't put them all in the same bag, due to vaccines some horrible diseases have been eradicated, Smallpox and Polio are some examples. It's good to be vigilant and suspicious of big pharmaceutical corporations but that does not mean you should become totally irrational about it.

No you are wrong. If you had done your research, and it takes like 5 minutes to look at the graohs (not the short range ones used deceptively by pro-vaccine muppets) to see that ALL 'infectious' diseases were already in rapid decline before vaccines were introduced. And in fact the vaccines caused large outbreaks of the diseases they are supposed to prevent. Thanks Bull Medicine.

Sorry but there is NO reason to have ANY vaccine. A healthy organic lifestyle with natural remedies such as colloidal silver, herbs and therapies (e.g Gerson) is all the protection you need.

Final retort is that you are the "irrational" one, I thoroughly researched the topics whereas you clearly read and fell for the propaganda.

Yes the whole medical and scientific community is the one spreading scientific propaganda, while the creationist head in the ass evangelist illuminate the world about the evils of modern science...

How about you search "anti-vaccine propaganda" with your googles...

Big Pharmaceutical corporations are not interested in prevention and cures, they want to milk you of money by keeping you sustainably sick. Vaccines are in the cure department, yes they also make vaccines, but it's in their interest to vilify vaccines on a "customer" level so their competition does not profit from making vaccines, in case the big pharma taints or stops producing vaccines of their own. Do you really think that medical professionals would not see right through if the vaccines would be "bad" ? It's much easier to fool the regular people who most are clueless about this subject...

Follow the money.

11-27-2011, 02:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 02:37 PM by nwo2012.)
RE: Big Study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated
I actually have lost you completely or the point you are trying to make. Let me get this straight, you believe vaccines are good for you and pharmaceutical companies spread lies in order to make vaccines look bad?

Wtf are you on about??? SO Formaldehyde can be safely injected into a child? So human and various animal DNA can be safely injected into a child? So Polysorbate 80, the commonly used emulsifier, did not cause fertility issues in animals? So Aluminium salts can be safely injected into children along with mercury (when it was commonly used)? So MSG can be safely injected into children and it is banned in products intended for children due to false studies? And all the other toxins can be safely injected into children without any harm? SO hyper-stimulating the brain's immune response on a repeated basis is perfectly safe?
ALL of the above is in fact spread by Big Pharma? You have lost the plot.

Medical professionals of course are gods and know everything and not easily controlled. Wtf are you smoking, medical MJ?

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