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Roman Polanski Website Vote Yes or No!
10-13-2009, 04:46 AM,
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LOL I just heard Icke call him a practising ritualistic satanist on the Jack Blood show.
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10-13-2009, 04:59 AM,
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LOL, Don't know about that but he's a perv. Wasn't he and old Charlie Manson familiar with each other?
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10-13-2009, 12:55 PM,
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If someone can be charged with murder 30 years after the fact why not fraud or rape? The statute of limitations seems imbalanced in this aspect.

As far as this case goes, the victim would have to press charges and she's moved on now -- case closed.
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10-13-2009, 02:19 PM,
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A few points that the pro-child rapists seems to neglect:

1. It was a crime against society at large, not only upon a little girl.

2. The reason for the charges to be still standing is that the sexual criminal fled the country before sentencing could be carried out.

3. He continued molesting children in his adopted country of Switzerland.

4. The "Illuminazied" Elites support his behavior, because they also partake of similar activities.
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10-14-2009, 12:07 AM,
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Quote:It was a crime against society at large, not only upon a little girl.

Good point Joe I stand corrected. A clear strong message needs to be sent that society at large does not agree with this behavior. This may drum up unwanted publicity and stir up buried emotion for the victim but the greater good ideology prevails in this case.
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10-14-2009, 03:41 PM,
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Quote:
Quote:It was a crime against society at large, not only upon a little girl.

Good point Joe I stand corrected. A clear strong message needs to be sent that society at large does not agree with this behavior. This may drum up unwanted publicity and stir up buried emotion for the victim but the greater good ideology prevails in this case.

Thank you, I only hope that I can emulate your fine behavior.

Polanski is finishing latest film from his cell, says Robert Harris

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol...icle6873582.ece

Roman Polanski is putting the finishing touches to his forthcoming film from his prison cell in Switzerland, his friend and colleague Robert Harris said yesterday at The Times Cheltenham Literature Festival.

Harris, who wrote the screenplay for the film, said that the director is making decisions about The Ghost so that it will be ready for its scheduled premiere at the Berlin Film Festival in February. Polanski, who is fighting extradition to America where he is wanted for raping a 13-year-old girl in 1977, recently gave instructions about the film score to Alexandre Desplat, the composer best known for writing music for The Queen and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

The director, 76, was arrested in Zurich on September 26 after 31 years on the run from the American authorities. He admitted having sex with Samantha Gailey, a model he hired for a photoshoot, but jumped bail in February 1978 when he discovered that he would face a lengthy prison sentence despite negotiating a plea bargain. Harris, who was in Cheltenham to publicise his book Lustrum, said that The Ghost would be completed in accordance with Polanski’s wishes. The director had finished editing the film, which stars Pierce Brosnan as a British prime minister accused of war crimes, on the day of his arrest.

Harris said: “He can make his wishes known from his cell. I don’t think he can make phone calls, but he can communicate. What people think of the film is another matter. Whether the film can rise above the circumstances in which the director now finds himself I don’t know. We will test to the upper limits the notion that there’s no such thing as bad publicity.”

Polanski’s arrest has divided public opinion. Most American commentators have welcomed the opportunity to bring him to justice, but there was an outcry in France, where he has lived without fear of extradition because of his French citizenship.

President Sarkozy said that he hoped for a “speedy resolution”.

Harris said that he does not condone Polanski’s crime, but believes that the story is more complicated than some commentators have described it. Polanski pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse in a deal with prosecutors in exchange for them dropping charges of rape, drugging and sodomy, which would have carried a life sentence. But he fled America when he discovered that he would still serve time in prison.

Harris, who is best known for historical novels such as Fatherland and Imperium, said: “He was left with little choice but to flee. I’ve got to know him very well. He’s got to know my children. I know his children. He has effectively been on probation for 32 years. For this to happen to him now . . . it seems to me to be bad treatment, especially as the victim herself says that she doesn’t want him to be pursued any further.”

He said that he did not worry about being tainted by association with Polanski and only hoped that his friend would be allowed to fight extradition from outside prison so he can see his family.

The author said:“These proceedings do drag on for the best part of a year. He’s a tough man. He’s been through a lot. If anyone can survive it, he can.”

Polanski’s life has been beset by tragedy. His mother was killed in Auschwitz, and in 1969 his pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Manson Family.

Harris said that Polanski wanted the film to be completed even if he is in prison. It is a nightmare looming that the director might be in jail at the time [of the film’s release] but we will just have to cope with this as the situation develops. I’m sure he would want the film to go ahead, having worked on it for two years.”
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10-14-2009, 04:18 PM,
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I could give two shits about Roman Polanski, but if he was found guilty of raping someone's child, he should serve his time like any other peodophile. Regardless of what the victim says now.
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10-19-2009, 12:41 PM,
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Quote:Roman Polanski Out of Jail for Medical Treatment

He's not out of the woods, but director Roman Polanski is out of jail, at least temporarily.

The director's French lawyer says that the 76-year-old director is receiving medical treatment for an undisclosed ailment, according to Reuters.

"All I know is that he has been taken from prison for medical attention. I don't know where he is or when he will be returned to prison," lawyer Herve Temime said.

Wherever the director is, he's still under supervision.

"He is still in detention. If necessary he has all the medical care (needed). It can be in prison or in hospital, in general," a spokesperson for Switzerland's Federal Office of Justice told the news agency.

Having been denied bail, the Oscar-winner has been in a Swiss jail since last month awaiting an extradition hearing to decide whether he will be returned to the United States.

Polanski fled the United States in 1978 before he could be sentenced for having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.
http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b149541_rom...il_medical.html

.. seems they found a loophole out of denial of bail.
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10-20-2009, 06:50 PM,
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Swiss court orders Polanski kept in jail

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091020/D9BEPRCO1.html

Oct 20, 7:23 AM (ET)

By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER


GENEVA (AP) - Roman Polanski suffered another setback in his fight against extradition to the United States on Tuesday when a Swiss court ordered the 76-year-old director kept in jail because he poses a high flight risk.

The Federal Criminal Court rejected offers by Polanski's legal team of bail, house arrest and other measures to ensure that he stays in Switzerland.

The acclaimed filmmaker is considered a convicted felon and a fugitive by authorities in Los Angeles, and the United States is seeking his extradition for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl. He was arrested by the Swiss on Sept. 26 as he arrived in Zurich to receive an award from a film festival.

"The court considered the risk that Roman Polanski might flee if released from custody as high," the federal court said. "The bail offered by the appellant does not meet in its form the requirements set out by the law."

The tribunal based in the southern Swiss city of Bellinzona left open possibilities for Polanski to challenge its verdict, highlighting some of the options that may feature in what is expected to be a lengthy legal battle over his extradition.

Polanski can appeal to Switzerland's highest tribunal for release. He can also continue attempts to persuade the Swiss Justice Ministry to release him. More court proceedings are expected after Washington files its formal extradition request, which it has until late November to submit.

The director of such film classics as "Rosemary's Baby" and "Chinatown" was accused of plying the underage girl with champagne and part of a Quaalude sedative pill during a modeling shoot in 1977, and raping her. He was initially indicted on six felony counts, including rape by use of drugs, child molesting and sodomy.

He pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of unlawful sexual intercourse. In exchange, the judge agreed to drop the remaining charges and sentence him to prison for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation.

However, he was released after 42 days by an evaluator who deemed him mentally sound and unlikely to offend again.

The judge responded by saying he was going to send Polanski back to jail for the remainder of the 90 days and that afterward he would ask Polanski to agree to a "voluntary deportation." Polanski then fled the country, on Feb. 1, 1978, the day he was scheduled to be sentenced to the additional time.

In its 17-page verdict, the Swiss court said Polanski offered to surrender his travel documents and submit himself to daily police checks. Those measures were seen as insufficient to prevent his flight because he could always obtain new passports or even travel to his French home without papers.

France does not extradite its own citizens.

The court was also concerned that Polanski could leave Switzerland and avoid the extradition process if he fled by helicopter or private airplane.

Lawyers for Polanski also offered up the director's chalet in the luxury resort of Gstaad as collateral, saying it represented more than half of his personal wealth and that it would definitely guarantee his remaining in the country because he has two children he must support through school. The court, however, sided with Swiss authorities who said even the large bail offer provided insufficient security against flight.

Legal experts have said Polanski stands a minimal chance of a speedy release, as the law dictates that wanted individuals should be held in detention for the duration of their extradition procedures. There is only limited space for exemptions.

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Associated Press writers Alexander G. Higgins and Eliane Engeler contributed to this report.
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02-23-2010, 05:37 AM,
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RE: Roman Polanski Website Vote Yes or No!
How lovely he is being adorned with accolades. The Berlin film festival has about as much class and discretion in who it gives it's awards as the Nobel Prize committee. This debacle manages to simultaneously make a mockery out of justice and ruin what had remained in the integrity of cinematic awards.

Quote:Roman Polanski Wins Best Director at Berlin International Film Festival
By Karen Nickel Anhalt
Saturday February 20, 2010 07:00 PM EST

Roman Polanski won the Silver Bear as best director for The Ghost Writer, his film starring Pierce Brosnan, Ewan McGregor and Kim Cattrall, which premiered last week at the Berlin International Film Festival.

The 76-year-old director was unable to attend the premiere screening or the awards ceremony in Berlin because he cannot leave his home in Switzerland.

He remains under house arrest in his villa in Gstaad while the Swiss justice system considers the legalities of his extradition to the US over his conviction of having sex with a minor in 1977.

Alain Sarde, producer of The Ghost Writer, accepted the award for Polanski, saying, "I am sure Roman will be very happy."

He added sardonically, "However, when I was lamenting with him that he cannot be with us, he said to me, 'Even if I could, I wouldn't because the last time I went to a festival to get a prize, I ended up in jail.' "

Polanski was referring to his arrest at Kloten Airport last September after he arrived to accept a lifetime achievement award at the Zurich Film Festival.

The 60th Berlin International Film Festival closed today in Germany.
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Glad he can still laugh it up even after drugging and sodomizing children in every fucking hole. It takes a certain kind of sick and heartless narcissistic piece of garbage to do this. For the film industry to bat a blind eye to this worthless puke and in the same breadth laud his professional achievements while jovially ribbing the perpetrator about his convicted crimes sets a new low for the industry.
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05-09-2010, 11:36 AM,
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RE: Roman Polanski Website Vote Yes or No!
A rational justice system would be based on restitution to the victim(s). If the victim (or, if the victim is a dependent, her parents / guardians, etc) doesn't want to press charges, then there is no crime. Polanski may deserve to lose a lot of money and be ostracized by a lot of people for what he did, but this on-going gendarme witch-hunt benefits no one.


(10-13-2009, 02:19 PM)joeblow Wrote: 1. It was a crime against society at large, not only upon a little girl.

There is no God / Allah / "society". Crimes can only happen against individuals that have Rights, not symbolic abstractions.


(10-13-2009, 02:19 PM)joeblow Wrote: 2. The reason for the charges to be still standing is that the sexual criminal fled the country before sentencing could be carried out.

This wouldn't be a problem under an Anarcho-Capitalist justice system.


(10-13-2009, 02:19 PM)joeblow Wrote: 3. He continued molesting children in his adopted country of Switzerland.

Ditto.


(10-13-2009, 02:19 PM)joeblow Wrote: 4. The "Illuminazied" Elites support his behavior, because they also partake of similar activities.

All government systems create an elite class of untouchables, but they're ever-more untouchable in the more collectivist countries. The things that have been happening in Moscow will make the Washington pedophiles look like champions of self-restraint!
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05-09-2010, 05:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-09-2010, 05:21 PM by Melchor.)
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Quote: All government systems create an elite class of untouchables, but they're ever-more untouchable in the more collectivist countries. The things that have been happening in Moscow will make the Washington pedophiles look like champions of self-restraint!

Want to provide some some evidence to back up your comment. Clearly you are a zealot on this issue, which means some actual proof of claims would be useful.
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05-09-2010, 06:24 PM,
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You certainly are demanding a higher standard of verifiability from me than you do from the American anti-government whistle-blowers, which I normally would appreciate but in this case would require me to recall which Russian-language publication I read it from years ago, and then try to find it... So I'd have to get back to you with the more specific witness testimonies of little Pioneer girls raped in the Kremlin - if those Yeltsin-era revelations haven't been completely lost in the Putinist memory hole... Russian culture is still very repressed when it comes to sexual "deviancy" -- they're still afraid to even mention the existence of homosexuality on mainstream television, for example -- this makes secrets like that a lot more likely to get buried along with all the other horrors of Soviet history.

In the meantime, I do have basic reasoning on my side. Power corrupts. The more centralized the power, the greater the temptation to abuse it.
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05-09-2010, 08:27 PM,
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(05-09-2010, 06:24 PM)Sprite0 Wrote: Power corrupts. The more centralized the power, the greater the temptation to abuse it.
Agreed. But then what's your response to the obvious corruption of cartel corporatism? Hands off approaches to corporations (which really are the controlling government anyway) just perpetuate the problem. I'm not saying that things are great in collectivist countries, just not particularly worse than in individualist countries. The main problem both systems have is that people are assholes and as long as that problem persists, pure 'free markets' (which have never existed by the way), pure populist collectivism (which has never existed either), and any other ideological governance structure (or lack thereof) is going to fail.
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05-09-2010, 09:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-09-2010, 09:28 PM by AlexLibman.)
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(05-09-2010, 08:27 PM)Melchor Wrote: But then what's your response to the obvious corruption of cartel corporatism?

It's an interesting coincidence that I had the word "cartel" entered in my browser search bar before I opened this thread, because I was searching torrent sites for a documentary called The Cartel about New Jersey public schools (mentioned on last episode of Stossel).

Cartels are very difficult if not impossible in a free market society, where any collusion or dumping would obviously be known about almost immediately by the public, and the reputation of those companies would fall quite sharply, while any company entering this market segment with lower prices would be seen as a hero. As businesses become ever-more globalized and agile, the dangers of collusion is reduced down to zero.

In a decentralized society everyone watches everyone else, which naturally leads to transparency and accountability (study the game theory). Any market entity that violates the Non-Aggression Principle would find plenty of resistance among potentially billions of freedom-loving individuals, which means everyone has to play by the rules or be destroyed.


(05-09-2010, 08:27 PM)Melchor Wrote: Hands off approaches to corporations (which really are the controlling government anyway) just perpetuate the problem.

The corporations are using the government's perceived "divine right" to a monopoly on violence to do many evil things: the military-industrial complex, private prisons, subsidies, other forms of corporate welfare, regulations that help Big Business while making it more difficult for smaller competitors to enter the market, and so on. But all those evils originate from government, not business. Governments can be evil without corporations, but businesses cannot get away with violating the Non-Aggression Principle without government.

The term "hands off" only applies to governments, which means we're no longer trusting the fox to guard the hen-house, but that control is replaced with something much stronger - freedom and individual self-interest. Informed consumers have a vested interest in verifying product safety and other quality control aspects, and businesses know they cannot make a penny without earning their trust. This leads to a completive industry of independent certification agencies, consumer publications, watchdog bloggers, corporate "karma" database aggregations, and many other new ideas for keeping the market in balance. Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow!


(05-09-2010, 08:27 PM)Melchor Wrote: I'm not saying that things are great in collectivist countries, just not particularly worse than in individualist countries.

There aren't that many individualist countries, and they aren't all that individualist, but that may someday change with libertarian initiatives like the Free State Project, the Seasteading Institute, and so on. We don't want to "force freedom" on anybody, just increase intergovernmental competition to the point where it's possible to simply opt out.


(05-09-2010, 08:27 PM)Melchor Wrote: The main problem both systems have is that people are assholes and as long as that problem persists, pure 'free markets' (which have never existed by the way), pure populist collectivism (which has never existed either), and any other ideological governance structure (or lack thereof) is going to fail.

People are not "assholes" in any "original sin" sense, and some political / economic systems channel those aspects of human nature in more constructive ways than others. In a society where there's an institution with a "divine right" to initiate force, greed turns into Machiavellian megalomania and all-out warfare, while in a free market society it creates people like Thomas Edison or Steve Jobs. In a society where governments look for external threats to unify their subjects, fear turns into racism and xenophobia, while in a free market society it encourages investment diversification, private security innovations, insurance, and stronger local communities (ex. neighborhood associations). In a society where demagogue politicians look for excuses to justify their power they create over-hyped environmentalist hysteria and the various run-away welfare pyramid schemes, while in a free market society those same instincts encourage private charity, private property conservationism, consumer activism, mutual aid societies, micro-credit lending, "open source" educational resources, and so on.

I agree that the free market never existed - just like heavier-than-air flight didn't exist prior to late 19th / early 20th century, but it's not like it was a bad idea prior to that technological advancement. There are many things that make Anarcho-Capitalism much easier in the modern age, most notably instant access to information through things like smart-phones, so you can easily pay for stuff via your choice of multiple competing currency systems, get product information from independent sources before you buy anything, find out whose property you're about to enter, document Rights violations using "open source" video feeds, etc, etc, etc.
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