Qx: Re New Illegal Downloads Law

[SerialExpLain]

Does that apply to Youtube and Google Vids imported to places, well, like here????

[Guest]

Which/what law? Which jurisdiction?

[SerialExpLain]

Copied from another forum: Freaked!!

Quote:People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the Internet under new legislative proposals to be unveiled next week.

Internet service providers (ISPs) will be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material, The Times has learned.

Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offense, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their Internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.

Broadband companies who fail to enforce the “three-strikes” regime would be prosecuted and suspected customers’ details could be made available to the courts. The Government has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between ISPs.

Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally every year in this country in a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions of pounds in lost revenue annually.

Britain’s four biggest Internet providers – BT, Tiscali, Orange and Virgin Media – have been in talks with Hollywood’s biggest studio and distribution companies for six months over a voluntary scheme.

Parallel negotiations between Britain’s music industry and individual Internet providers have been dragging on for two years.

Major sticking points include who will arbitrate disputed allegations, for example when customers claim to have been the victim of “wi-fi piggybacking”, in which users link up to a paid-for wireless network that is not their own. Another outstanding disagreement is how many enforcements the internet companies will be expected to initiate and how quickly warning e-mails would be sent.

International action in the US and France, which is implementing its own “three-strikes” regime, has increased the pressure on British Internet companies and stiffened the Government’s resolve.

Ministers will make an explicit commitment to legislate with the launch next week of a Green Paper on the creative industries. A draft copy, obtained by The Times, states: “We will move to legislate to require Internet service providers to take action on illegal file-sharing.” A consultation paper setting out the options is promised within months.

A spokesman for the Internet Service Providers Association said it remained hopeful that agreement over a voluntary agreement could be reached: “Every right-thinking body knows that self-regulation is much the better option in these areas.”

More info:
timesonline.co.uk
BBC News

[TeslaandLyne]

The net can't make DVDs or downloads available without payment, if a
download is allowed with out payment its not our fault.

On an band forum, direct links to songs and vids are not allowed, so posters
give links to web pages.. like megaup or download, which says no illegal sources.

[Guest]

Quote:doesn't protowall or PG2 actively stop the ISP viewing downloaded content via torrents?:huh:

It stops TCP/IP packets... nothing more. If an ap used raw sockets...IE: IP protocol without the TCP portion, it's undetectable... at least under winblows.

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ah okay, I understand, Thanks for the info.

[mastermg]

How will they know what your downloading if the file is renamed? Also can they catch you if you use a private ftp server?

[Cycle of Eternity]

well... it says you have to be suspected. as far as i know, ISPs don't have the authority to spy on your internet surfing/downloading or whatever. they're internet service providers, not teh interwebz sheriffs - all they can do is provide the internet that you pay for, otherwise it'll be an invasion of privacy (liek the gov gives a shit tho huh). sure they know everything you download and every website you visit, but they can't say anything unless, like the article said, a judge makes the records public. so, someone has to report you to your ISP via anti-p2p organizations or whatever.

for Comcast, it's always been 3 strikes. someone reported me a while back and comcast sent me an email (i dunno if anyone remembers, i posted the email i got from comcast a while back here) and said that it came to their attention from an anonymous source that i downloaded a movie and told me to contact them if i felt it was a mistake. well... i deleted the email and never said shit from there. nothing ever happened, i just ignored it. i was reading Comcast's terms of use and it says if caught downloading illegally, they would warn me then either if a 2nd or 3rd time, suspend or terminate my account. it's up to the copyright holder to sue if they wish.

either way, your ISP can't do shit unless you're reported from a third-party. just be careful where you download and always have something like PeerGuardian running to block out Universities, Anti-P2P and Government addresses.

but that is a UK article, and that place is the most blatant police state i know of.

in any case, wipe the free space on your hard drive and then encrypt the whole thing. i dunno if they can use internet records as CERTAIN proof of illegaly activity, but if they have to go to your hard drives for more proof, they sure in the hell aren't going to get anything. they will proly try to scare you to reveal your encrypted password if you ever go to court, but here in the US you don't have to say shit.

[DJOldskool]

No, ISPs will be required to spy on your downloading habits and warn / limit bandwidth / cut you off. If they do not do this they can be prosecuted. This is a UK law BTW.

Tiscali limit me to about 512k in the evening, when I researched into it, I found they they flag you as a p2per and restrict you during peak hours. (note to self: GET NEW ISP FFS ALREADY )This much is possible, as to proving the material you are downloading is illegal, that would be much harder.

The governments are being pressurised by the MPIAA and RIAA to do something so I suppose this is it for now.