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MANGINAS, You've Been Warned ! IMG INT - [Warning: Load Times]
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11-03-2012, 06:09 AM
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
I don't think I could have given a more fair warning. I really don't have time to deal with users like this. I'm not lazy by any stretch, just being efficient. There are more important things to do than manage this individual.
I'm dealing with enough with my children, my work, my local community and the back and frontend of our ConCen to deal with a recurring problem like Negentropic. I felt I was doing the community a service as a whole for banning him, on that front tell me and the other mods how you feel about it, as you have already. He was warned earlier for something separate - a couple of times. I stepped in as a mod to keep him around since I saw merit in the fact he made some good points. Since then those points have been repeated them to death, to evolution + plenty of tussles along the way. I feel keeping him around to repeat his good points would only encourage circular banter rather than progressive constructive/informative discussion. Quote:Please limit your postings to one video and one photo per post and don't go double posting to circumvent it... and then he went and posted 90+ times in a row There was no misunderstanding, and even if it was he just failed to understand a well laid out cease and desist order explained in abundance with a Q&A session. Quote:this banning is getting out of control. This site is banning way too many members that have been here for many years. There was an era of hater/troll hunting awhile back that may have gotten out of control but in the end I think the discussions got better in quality even though there was a dip in quantity. I've only banned three or four members from post privlidges (outside of a few hundred or so obvious spammers) so I can't speak to it as a whole. FYI: Banned users can still see posts and download stuff from the tracker. It doesn't ban their IP address or anything like that unless there is an attack or an IP block of spamming addresses. Quote:I would have made a new section to the forum where a member could have posted multiple images. Problem solved Not a bad idea. We have had a few threads like that. Make one - be sure to put a disclaimer on the load times in the title though. This was a case of pure spite aimed at either myself and/or the administration though, I didn't take well to it and I gave plenty warning for other stuff with this guy - if it were only this one time incident I'd let it slide with a warning. Plenty of other options here for multiple video/audio posts that I suggested: thumbs, jpg links, picture links, waiting for another to respond then rolling out another video or couple of images, scaling the images down a bit so they don't overwhelm the virtual real-estate of the discussion thread... he had his chance and chose his way. Quote:This is ConCen not 4chan. Damn str8! There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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11-03-2012, 06:14 AM
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
ok thanks for the clarification. And I didn't know that a member can still use the tracker once banned. That's good to know.
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11-03-2012, 06:29 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2012 06:34 AM by R.R.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
Frank2: "It seems counter productive to ban members from a forum still seeking revitalisation, for being prolific posters."
It seems counter productive but at the same time I think potential newbies are put off by posters like Negentropic to be honest. I know all the Nazi/Hitler praise and constant Jew bashing put me off anyway. I'm not kicking him while he's down and I've blasted him on plenty of occassions before. I'm not too sure what reasons people have when they choose a forum but I'm sure some originality of thought is among them. |
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11-03-2012, 10:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2012 12:55 PM by Frank2.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
(11-03-2012 06:29 AM)R.R Wrote: Frank2: "It seems counter productive to ban members from a forum still seeking revitalisation, for being prolific posters." The site was founded by a white separatist!!! But, they still had the presence of mind to keep the membership diverse and with many contrary opinions in evidence..until they started getting trigger happy with the ban hammer. It has progressively been a skeleton crew since that time - but now new members are starting to register again. Hallelujah! FYI, I am not a white separatist. In terms of 'distasteful opinions' deterring new members - I think it is not the issue and a distraction to what happened - all that is required is a simple disclaimer pertaining to the no censorship hallmark - conspiracy theortards, I posit, actually LIKE that. One could equally argue that injudicious application of the ban hammer could also be said to be a deterrent to people wanting to choose this forum. The place used to be a LOT more lively some years ago and the debates plenty more vital when there wasn't the spectre of political correctness constantly tutting from the wings. Not meant personally.. It would be so much better to get the forum activity closer to those levels once again and banning prolific posters is not going to serve that purpose well at all. JMO Besides, the issue involved ie. that a mod thought (rightly or wrongly) that a member was taking the michael out of them..there is still the remaining issue of [undefined=undefined]Loyalty[/undefined] - that, I believe, in theory and practice should extend, not only, to the concept of members being loyal to the site - they are, they keep it afloat..but also there, I think, should also be an onus on the staff themselves to showing some loyalty to longstanding members. Banning someone over what probably is a simple misunderstanding doesn't evince such sentiments at all. I am GLAD this place isn't as yet overwhelmed by a touchy feely everyone likes everyone else and thinks in lockstep atmosphere. Trying to pull the site or prune it's membership to acheive such a mawkish goal would put it 6ft under. Definitely. Even if it was still breathing, it's spirit would be gone. The humour and irreverance are depleted as hell on this board. It's all way too Poe-faced at the moment. A healthy dose of hide thickening would do wonders around here. JMO Which makes the narrative of the MANGINA thread even more pertinent! LOL FT: "I'm not lazy by any stretch, just being efficient. There are more important things to do than manage this individual." Sorry to say, but that's a blatant cop out. Maybe Negentropic isn't as busy as you and currently has more opportunity (not at present, admittedly - but that is due to having been banned) and inclination to make lengthy posts and because you are so busy in your communities that you overlooked the fact that they have ALWAYS posted in such a prolific almost OCD type manner and perhaps simply tried to change their format to the parameters you had defined for them and when they didn't satisfy what you were looking for you took it as intent and a challenge to your ego/authority and decided that their political orientation wasn't really in step with what concen should be about anyway and thus managed to convince yourself it was a service to the community to use the misunderstanding as a pretext for banning them immediately?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind I've never seen a moderator on a conspiracy site ban someone before for posting too much info in too short a space of time LOL "I'm dealing with enough with my children, my work, my local community and the back and frontend of our ConCen to deal with a recurring problem like Negentropic. I felt I was doing the community a service as a whole for banning him, on that front tell me and the other mods how you feel about it, as you have already." Which community..you mentioned two in one sentence. ;D Seeing as you openly request my opinion to help understand: I disagree that it was a heroic "service" to the community. It wasn't a selfless gesture and portraying it as such is slightly ingenuous. Besides, Negentropic was/is ALSO a member of this community. You have described a culling action made under utilitarian imperatives. Cyberspace eugenics lol Is dealing with teh "frontend of concen" really such a Sisyphian nightmare? I can't believe it tbh. Furthermore, the aspect that this forum might be IMPORTANT to them is still completely overlooked - no-one posts like that unless they need to be part of the community. please refer to my comment about LOYALTY. negentropic obviously spends a LOT of time posting in comparison to the average poster. Why is this deemed to be a personal affront by the mod? A misunderstanding? Was another more surreptitious motivation at play in this demonstration of efficiency? Or was it simply a case of perceived undermining of authority which provoked a kneejerk reaction? -- as I said - I have a shit computer - their threads didn't make such an overwhelming headache this end. I'd like to see them reinstated, personally. It's shitty to ban someone because they spend a lot of time posting here regardless of their own political fetishes. shrugs. nb. speaking of efficiency; it would be efficacious to get the tags working properly on the board.  mmmkay And while we are on the subject of use and abuse of authority -- can I ask a mod why my signature http://www.lunaticoutpost.com has been deleted for me??? and the option to have a signature concurrently removed from my user CP for me? WTH is up with that?? Give me my sig back and stop being sneaky whoever did that lol  Since when did covert Stalinist techniques become the MO here? 
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” --Travis Walton http://truthfrequencyradio.com/chat/ |
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11-03-2012, 03:39 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2012 03:55 PM by R.R.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
frank2 Wrote:The site was founded by a white separatist!!! Yes but he didn't name it white seperatist central and it was that diversity that attracted and maintained new members. frank2 Wrote:In terms of 'distasteful opinions' deterring new members - I think it is not the issue and a distraction to what happened At no point did I say 'distasteful opinions' were the issue. I was simply opposing your point about retaining 'prolific posters' due to the forum 'seeking revitalisation'. Sometimes those 'prolific posters' are the reason we see no revitalisation. In a crude way, its like the old fart who won't change the record. frank2 Wrote:One could equally argue that injudicious application of the ban hammer could also be said to be a deterrent to people wanting to choose this forum. Thats a fair point. But I'd also add if any potential newcomer has analysed the site to that degree (to notice the bans), they will have already come across several threads (that have had recent posts) that do not inspire them to join and they would have seen the general lack of activity. The activity they do see will be mainly 'prolific posters' spewing the same opinions/conclusions again and again which they can get on any conspiracy forum. I personally saw this forum as one of the few in the conspiracy realm that people could go to after they had developed enough critical thinking to leave behind the superstar researchers or are dissatisfied with the usual schools of thought. The most common school of thought has been the zionist position so unfortunately newcomers are not going to find anything here that they can't find elsewhere. frank2 Wrote:I am GLAD this place isn't as yet overwhelmed by a touchy feely everyone likes everyone else and thinks in lockstep atmosphere. Its getting there and nearly was at that point a while ago with the constant 'it's the jews crowd'. Where the hell did all the Christians, reptile lovers, black Popers, Islamists, black supremacists, new agers, atheists etc go? For what it's worth - here's my two cents: The forum will never reach those numbers again mainly because the conspiracy realm had an upsurge in interest a few years back and in hindsight it was nothing more than following a trend. The internet was becoming more available and people were getting faster download speeds. 9-11 awareness was building and people had questions due to the aftermath of 9-11 like the subsequent wars and proposed laws. Questions require answers and places like concen provided some. Curiosity evolves and people are keen to learn more. But over time the conspiracy realm failed to provide consistent answers and people moved on. At the same time, conspiracy terms and concepts started entering the mainstream attracting more followers - and these types of people are usually fickle anyway who will abandon the ideas once it no longer serves them as being some type of in-thing. You also always have the type of person that liked something because nobody else knew about it. They usually lose interest when the things they like become more well known. Then you have those that 'work' in the industry who are split between trying to maintain viewership/subscribers/ratings/income and thus having to dilute their product in order to do so and that gives rise to the talentless and opinionated 'researcher' whose best contributions are to bash the 'mainstream' equivalent/most well known conspiracy personalities although some good lesser known researchers remain. In short, conspiracy went through what virtually everything goes through when it becomes somewhat popular. The example above can be used in a variety of music, fashion and entertainment contexts. Contrast and compare conspiracy and hip-hop for example, how it went from the underground to mainstream and then spawned an underground substream trying to 'keep it real' where the artists blast mainstream artists and popular culture and homemade, amateur contributions generally ruined the overall quality of the hard work of others before them and on and on it goes. The point is these are consistently observed human phenomena irrespective of the levels of manipulation employed or the truths contained within these sub-cultures. Moving on to the forum and the ideal way it should be run - that's another story but not anything we haven't seen before. Its a case of ideals clashing with reality. We'd love the 'perfect' mods and I'm sure they'd love the 'perfect' posters. Its a case of expectation and entitlement and is all over the western world. Also some people treat this place like it should be some sort of utopia. In a nutshell, to stop rambling, the forum needs that diversity again with new ideas and concepts explained in relation to previous information. However I don't think the forum will reach the heights of previous years, unless something big happens and this loop will be repeated. |
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11-03-2012, 06:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2012 08:31 PM by shortwave.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
I don't even know who Manginas is. And I did not understand what was the purpose of all the pictures and the captions and comments. I didn't get any of it, maybe I missed something important and esoteric.
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11-04-2012, 01:08 AM
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
(11-03-2012 10:31 AM)Frank2 Wrote: And while we are on the subject of use and abuse of authority -- can I ask a mod why my signature Thought you could see the comment as to why your siggy was deleted. FastTadpole in the Profile Comments Box Wrote:http://www.lunaticoutpost.com/ Ad revenue news site placed in siggy >> siggy banned. You can post a link to a site for reference (not in excess) but siggys with URLs with ads have always been banned from signatures. I usually PM a member when I do a change like that but I figured, with 8000+ posts (nik) you knew why, and if not - you could read your own public profile http://concen.org/forum/user-19452.html to investigate. As for the other concerns. I had plenty reason and the right reasons to ban him but I'll hear out an appeal directly from him if he wants, he or anyone else can email us at forum@concen.org - the mailbox is always open. Quote:kneejerk reaction? No not at all. That's explained upthread. Anything further to the other points you mentioned have also been explained. So sorry you don't agree but you can't please everyone all the time - that would make for a homogeneous discussion and lots of pats on the back to hive minded people, you've said your piece I've said mine. Glad we can do that. Quote:You have described a culling action made under utilitarian imperatives. I didn't ban him from the internet.. just from posting on the ConCen forum after a few straightforward, easy to interpret, non-ambiguous warnings about a few things. Are you suggesting we put this to a vote. Feel free to instigate one if you wish but ultimately that would be a weighted suggestion to take into interpretation - that's just the way ConCen operates - not everyone's opinion is equal but they are all heard. Good well thought out points deserve merit as always. There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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11-04-2012, 09:04 AM
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
Quote:I didn't ban him from the internet.. just from posting on the ConCen forum after a few straightforward, easy to interpret, non-ambiguous warnings about a few things. Are you suggesting we put this to a vote. Feel free to instigate one if you wish but ultimately that would be a weighted suggestion to take into interpretation - that's just the way ConCen operates - not everyone's opinion is equal but they are all heard. Good well thought out points deserve merit as always. While I am no fan of scrolling down a page to see some Jew sucking the blood off a freshly circumcised infant... I do not think he should have been banned. All those images do get laggy, but I know if he did post links, I probably would not click them. Perhaps that is why he is so insistent on massive picture threads? Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - Henry L. Mencken I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant. - Henry L. Mencken |
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11-05-2012, 01:32 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2012 02:24 AM by Frank2.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
(11-04-2012 01:08 AM)FastTadpole Wrote:(11-03-2012 10:31 AM)Frank2 Wrote: And while we are on the subject of use and abuse of authority -- can I ask a mod why my signature I never deleted anyone's sig nor was aware that linking to a conspiracy forum was not allowed. Also it doesn't explain why my ability to even have a sig was also removed. Btw, this is what the profile says: "You can't send a comment to this user because your usergroup can't send comments. There is no comments to show  " - the grammar are wrong also.(11-04-2012 01:08 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: As for the other concerns. I had plenty reason and the right reasons to ban him but I'll hear out an appeal directly from him if he wants, he or anyone else can email us at forum@concen.org - the mailbox is always open.No, you didn't have plenty reason, you just think you did. (11-04-2012 01:08 AM)FastTadpole Wrote:No, it wasn't explained ~ it was excused. There is a chasm of meaning between the two words.Quote:kneejerk reaction? I'm glad we can do that too, shame Negentropic isn't afforded such courtesy. Like I said, I have never seen anyone on a conspiracy forum banned before for posting too much info and in too short a space of time. you can wrap it up in ribbons all you like, i know what happened, see upthread for my explanation. It's bolded. (11-04-2012 01:08 AM)FastTadpole Wrote:Quote:You have described a culling action made under utilitarian imperatives. I know you didn't ban him from the internet. Seeing as it is such a palpably rediculous statement, I can only presume that your response is proffered in a smug sarcastic vein. This goes a far in belieing what could be perceived as the vanity of self importance..don't worry it is just my opinion and it is not equal to yours. I wasn't suggesting a vote but seeing as you offer I 'instigate' one. sure, why not? Vox pop is useful when the Ivory tower syndrome once again threatens to emerge in repeat cycle. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote:indeed, diversity.frank2 Wrote:The site was founded by a white separatist!!! (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote:Negentropic was holding the forum back?frank2 Wrote:In terms of 'distasteful opinions' deterring new members - I think it is not the issue and a distraction to what happened (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote:places like LOP are thriving. So why not here?frank2 Wrote:One could equally argue that injudicious application of the ban hammer could also be said to be a deterrent to people wanting to choose this forum. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote:The old farts made a stink and they left.frank2 Wrote:I am GLAD this place isn't as yet overwhelmed by a touchy feely everyone likes everyone else and thinks in lockstep atmosphere. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote: For what it's worth - here's my two cents: I percieve the opposite with more and more people beginning to question the mainstream version of what constitutes truth. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote: At the same time, conspiracy terms and concepts started entering the mainstream attracting more followers - and these types of people are usually fickle anyway who will abandon the ideas once it no longer serves them as being some type of in-thing. You also always have the type of person that liked something because nobody else knew about it. They usually lose interest when the things they like become more well known. Then you have those that 'work' in the industry who are split between trying to maintain viewership/subscribers/ratings/income and thus having to dilute their product in order to do so and that gives rise to the talentless and opinionated 'researcher' whose best contributions are to bash the 'mainstream' equivalent/most well known conspiracy personalities although some good lesser known researchers remain.The pattern may hold some truth but I don't think it is at the point you believe. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote: Moving on to the forum and the ideal way it should be run - that's another story but not anything we haven't seen before. Its a case of ideals clashing with reality. We'd love the 'perfect' mods and I'm sure they'd love the 'perfect' posters. Its a case of expectation and entitlement and is all over the western world. Also some people treat this place like it should be some sort of utopia.Who treats this place like it is a utopia? It isn't a case of entitlement at all, it is a case of fair and unfair within the parameters of given "rules". Maligning "the western world" is your own perogative but using this patently unfair banning and my questioning of it as an analogue to do so is ludicrous. As it goes, I find many of negentropic's opinions polemic to my own but, nevertheless i also see that that has NO bearing to the matter being discussed. (11-03-2012 03:39 PM)R.R Wrote: In a nutshell, to stop rambling, the forum needs that diversity again with new ideas and concepts explained in relation to previous information. However I don't think the forum will reach the heights of previous years, unless something big happens and this loop will be repeated. There is another loop which debilitates this forum too but I agree with your view. “The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” --Travis Walton http://truthfrequencyradio.com/chat/ |
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11-05-2012, 04:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-05-2012 05:24 AM by R.R.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned !
Frank2 Wrote:Negentropic was holding the forum back? Kudos to his depth of research and the passion he displayed in his position but I feel he would have been viewed overall as off-putting to potential new members. I'm not saying I attract people to the forum or that people share my view but I know in the past when I decide to join a forum, I tend to check out a few threads and see who regularly posts alongside the quality of those posts and then make a decision if I think a forum will be beneficial to something I want to learn about. I go through periods where I lurk on this forum and Negentropic was off-putting to me as I could go long spells without viewing the forum, come back and see little to no growth within his posts despite his frequent posting. Simply put he has found his truth, fair play to him, and that in some ways has closed his mind to further development. He pushed the 'its the Jews'/'Hitler was misunderstood'/white superiority stuff in a way that meets every stereotype of the 'conspiracy theorist'. That is only my opinion, whatever that is worth. Taken as a whole I can understand how the forum was useful to his development, as it was/is to my own but I don't feel he offered anything to draw any diversity back on to the site. Quite the contrary as can be seen in a few threads. I'm sure a friend of his joined the site who held very similar opinions and lately the issue of racism has been discussed on this site again and you know what position the man took. He might not have held the forum back, but he was certainly no influence towards moving it forward and I'm not saying this out of any past run-ins with him or to make out like I contribute to the forum's quality. It saddens me that a lot of conspiracy material came from Concen so the forum should be a lot busier than it is. It saddens me more that even after the wide array of information available, the forum could not get beyond the most prolific contributors being of the 'its the jews' position and that's even after a lot of them were banned/left the site. Frank2 Wrote:I percieve the opposite with more and more people beginning to question the mainstream version of what constitutes truth. From what I've observed people might question the media but there are a variety of reasons why and not many that are going to lead them to further study. Firstly there are several concurrent theories that people generally believe that lead them to question the mainstream. I am from a multicultural city and the reasons people question the mainstream vary from all groups but they all have one thing in common - a persecution complex. Also the world is becoming very cynical and the saying 'behind every cynic is a disappointed idealist' is very true in this regard. We have all the coloured folk moaning about the white man holding them back; the white pro-socialist/guilty self-hater; the white nationalist/racialist; the religious complaining about societies' lack of morals; the religious complaining about how everyone hates their religion; the feminists; the students who have 'no future'; the disgruntled middle-class; the poor folk reliant/feeling entitled to government handouts; those in the capitalist vs socialist debate; complaints about the bankers etc and then you have people/individuals that are combinations of these positions further complicating things. All of them feel persecuted in some way shape or form which leads them to 'question' the government/mainstream media. There is self-evidently a whole load of prejudice amongst their own position and no real attempt to understand what is going on around them - which is made worse by the day-to-day tasks of everyday life and, ironically, the mainstream media feeding them false information alongside discussions they have with other persecuted people. Depressions are on the rise too and when depressed people meet, they can really hit it off depending on what dislikes they have in common but these traits initially mask deep resentments which make people eventually distrust and discard each other leading to more anger/depression/distrust and cynicism/apathy/misanthropy. The point is there is an atmosphere of paranoia and distrust which are not indicative of people 'waking up' but does explain the questioning of the mainstream media. I see it more as evidence of the divide and conquer methods employed by the elites and when people are legitimately seeking answers beyond the craziness offered to them by their fellow 'citizens', seeing the likes of Negentropic is hardly motivating. Feelings of persecution are somewhat primitive behaviours meaning when we say 'a dumbed down' society, we are really talking about an emotionally child-like society hence why communities/groups cannot move beyond their own conspiracy theories, which are then set up as straw men arguments to destroy conspiracy facts. There is a common trend amongst conspiracy research to label the elites as psychopathic which is a worthwhile study no doubt. But even within conspiracy research, it is we the people who are 'persecuted' so amongst the research there is no promotion of legitimately improving as people by shaking off the sensitivities instilled in feeling like a persecuted group. Sure we have the platitudes and the new age motivational rubbish from time to time but mentioing psychopathy is talking about psychology and more needs to be discussed to find the damage of the elites' behaviours. Interestingly for the 'its the Jews' bunch, it has been discussed that Jewish behaviour towards other groups could be explained via a persecution complex - now consider what we discussed above - Shadow archetypes coming into play. Society is not full of 'sane' people who will improve the world if the elites are gotten rid of. There is a deep process we need to go through - the old ideas of introspection and seperation/individuation come to mind - before society can reach any real understanding and any of this mess can be overturned and that includes getting rid of a lot of prejudices, being able to have fuller control of ones emotions and eliminating the many fears that drive people to be so susceptible to the elites methods. |
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11-30-2012, 01:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-30-2012 09:04 PM by Negentropic.)
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RE: MANGINAS, You've Been Warned ! IMG INT - [Warning: Load Times]
![[Image: 2739657370_8e75929059_z.jpg?zz=1]](http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3035/2739657370_8e75929059_z.jpg?zz=1) die-cut valentine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj3--kt7TO0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1gXYmJQjqU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g26kRoote1w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU4O5MCUQwU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpRhjTgZxBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T4fU7fwLWk ![[Image: CC_Natural-Protein-Products-Inc-Universa...r-1976.jpg]](http://www.collectingcandy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/CC_Natural-Protein-Products-Inc-Universal-City-Studios-Six-Million-Dollar-Man-Bionic-Bar-25-cent-foil-wrapper-1976.jpg) No Artificial Ingredients, No Preservatives and certainly nothing to 'preserve' your teeth and your internal organs, just a ton of sugar and corn syrup. Who said shuggah was bad for you ? Whaddaya nuts ? Shuggah is for bionic babies ! ![[Image: SixMillionDollarManChristmasLPFront.jpg]](http://www.superheroes-r-us.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/SixMillionDollarManChristmasLPFront.jpg) ![[Image: farrah03.jpg]](http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/farrah03.jpg) ![[Image: 1.JPG]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tOhyEwZmiYE/TYG9ecpTq9I/AAAAAAAACtg/6hTCLdwDNy4/s1600/1.JPG) ![[Image: studies_in_crap_guideposts_pages_fonzie_detail.jpg]](http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/studies_in_crap_guideposts_pages_fonzie_detail.jpg) ![[Image: the_fonz.jpg]](http://www.arcade-lounge.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/the_fonz.jpg) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2i0QWXvOn0 ![[Image: use-The_Fonz_w-cup_2.jpg]](http://bonanzleimages.s3.amazonaws.com/afu/images/1400/5578/use-The_Fonz_w-cup_2.jpg) ![[Image: bbli_batman_fonz.jpg]](http://theretronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bbli_batman_fonz.jpg) ![[Image: cVNTP2LA5fSoJDv.jpg]](http://cdn101.iofferphoto.com/img/item/111/190/667/cVNTP2LA5fSoJDv.jpg) notice the headline: David Rockefeller defends banks ? ! No shit ? Who better to defend banks ?  ![[Image: 19780220-750-0.jpg]](http://storage.people.com/people/archive/jpgs/19780220/19780220-750-0.jpg) ![[Image: the-fonz.jpg]](http://motivateurself.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/the-fonz.jpg) Quote:The history of the name Sightings and how it came to Jeff Rense and, ultimately, to our new worldwide UFO research and reporting center, directed by internationally-renowned UFO research authority, Brian Vike. |
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