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Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
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07-06-2012, 05:10 AM
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Quote:Published on Jul 4, 2012 by 2012sprint
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07-06-2012, 07:17 AM
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RE: HOLY SHITBALLS! why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
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09-05-2012, 02:08 PM
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RE: HOLY SHITBALLS! why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
September 4, 2012
Banks Face Suits as States Weigh Libor Losses By NATHANIEL POPPER The scandal over global interest rates has state officials like Janet Cowell of North Carolina working intensely behind the scenes to build a case for suing the nation’s largest banks. Ms. Cowell, the state’s elected treasurer, and several of her staff members have spent the summer combing through the state’s investments trying to determine how much the state may have lost because of suspected manipulation of the London interbank offered rate, or Libor, which is used as a benchmark for trillions of dollars of financial contracts around the world. “We think this could be as big as the mortgage crisis settlement, that this could be a really high impact situation and that we should be aggressive on this,” Ms. Cowell said, referring to the $25 billion settlement that the nation’s biggest banks entered with state attorneys general. The activity provides a glimpse at how widely the Libor scandal has spread through the financial world, and how much damage may still be in store for the banks accused of manipulating Libor. Her work also suggests just how difficult it is, and how long it may take, to get to the bottom of the losses. The attorneys general in Maryland, Massachusetts, New York and Connecticut have all been examining how much their states may have lost as a result of a lowered Libor. A spokeswoman for Connecticut’s attorney general, George C. Jepsen, said that the state’s work with New York’s attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman, “has broadened significantly over the last few weeks and we are now coordinating with a much larger group of attorneys general.” Even before the British bank Barclays admitted in June that its employees had tried to manipulate Libor, there were a number of lawsuits filed by cities and municipal agencies seeking damages from large banks for manipulating Libor. But while those cases were filed by private sector lawyers, the public officials are looking at bringing more wide-ranging lawsuits on behalf of the states. The Justice Department has coordinated with the states and is leading its own investigation. The government officials are hoping that their cases will be bolstered by new settlements between regulators and individual banks that are suspected of participating in the manipulation. Most of the more than one dozen banks involved in setting Libor have said in official filings that they are in discussions with regulators about their involvement in the Libor process. Libor is supposed to represent how much banks are paying for short-term loans from other banks. It is determined by the British Bankers Association after a daily poll of the world’s largest banks. It then serves as a benchmark for rates paid by consumers and businesses on everything from mortgages to derivatives to student loans. Barclays said in its settlement that it and other banks pushed Libor down artificially during the financial crisis to appear more healthy. Barclays also admitted that its traders tried to manipulate Libor at other points in order to sweeten particular financial deals. Barclays paid $450 million to settle the charges. The financial products used by states and local governments are especially vulnerable to an artificially lowered rate. Ms. Cowell, a 44-year-old Democrat and former business consultant who is running for another four-year term, was aware of the potential implications of the Libor case for North Carolina almost as soon as the Barclays settlement was announced on June 27. The next Monday, at her weekly staff meeting, she asked her office’s lawyers and investment officers to begin looking into it. The inquiry has focused primarily on two areas of the state’s finances. One was the state’s public pension plans, which in North Carolina are overseen by the treasurer. A state money manager began identifying bonds held by the state pension fund and money market fund investments that derived their value from Libor. In July, lawyers from the treasurer’s office took part in a conference call on the topic with pension funds in other states. Ms. Cowell and members of her staff have found a few investments held by the $76 billion pension fund that were tied to Libor, but they have now determined that the losses were most likely “pretty small.” The other, more significant area where Ms. Cowell began looking for losses was in a kind of financial contract that many states use, known as an interest rate swap. States use swaps when they want to issue a bond at a floating interest rate but protect themselves from future swings in rates. In a standard swap, a state makes a regular payment to its bank and gets a payment back that is determined by the level of Libor. If Libor was lower, the payments will be, too. North Carolina had two major swaps at the time the benchmark was suspected of being rigged. Together, the two swaps were tied to $1.3 billion of bonds that were issued in 2002 and 2005. The banks on the other side of these contracts included Bank of America, of Charlotte, N.C., and JPMorgan Chase & Company based in New York, both of which are involved in setting Libor. The challenge facing North Carolina and other states is that there is no agreement yet on how much the banks actually manipulated Libor, and for how long. The lawsuits that have already been filed have estimated that the banks held Libor down by at least 30 basis points, or 0.30 percent, for three years. By one method of calculation, that could have meant losses for North Carolina of around $10 million on their swaps. Ms. Cowell said she assumed that as more banks settled with regulators, those numbers would become clearer. In the meantime, the treasurer’s office is working out formulas for losses that they can plug numbers into if and when new settlements are made public. At that point, Ms. Cowell also plans to share her work with other municipal agencies in North Carolina that held about 40 swaps during the period in question. “This is an unprecedented level of analysis, and an unprecedented wide spectrum of financial impact,” Ms. Cowell said. The inquiry could provide a political bump for Ms. Cowell, who is seeking another term as anti-Wall Street sentiment is running high. A graduate of the Wharton School of Business, she served on the Raleigh, N.C., City Council and then the state Senate before taking office in 2008. She cites among her accomplishments the state’s maintaining its status as one of eight with a AAA rating from the major credit rating agencies. North Carolina’s attorney general will make the final determination on whether the state will join existing lawsuits, proceed with its own case or take no action at all. The attorney general’s office did not respond to requests for comment. But the office has been involved in many of the discussions with the treasurer’s staff, people involved in the meetings said.
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09-05-2012, 09:27 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
Its amazing, but of course not surprising, that this isn't the biggest news story in the media.
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09-06-2012, 08:20 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
(09-05-2012 09:27 PM)SiLVa Wrote: Its amazing, but of course not surprising, that this isn't the biggest news story in the media. Top to bottom now we have money evidenced as a corrupt FRAUD! Top YouTube comment: Quote:... it's hilarious that these rich fucks got caught. No jury in the world wouldn't convict them. No it's NOT funny because this won't go to court, and if it does a real jury representative of the people's educated will likely won't be anointed to file for recourse. So many, too many, people rely on the financial system to act as their compensation to provide goods and services - thus leaving those with more power to enslave great masses of people via economic/monetary manipulation directly and/or indirectly. Anyone and everyone that has, is or ever will use money is involved in this faith based scheme built on confidence that hasn't earned one iota of trust - no matter what it says on the currency. So we're left with a continuance of this scandal or an opportunity to correct this by restructure, localization, detachment in any degree. This is likely to be met with resistance and/or railroaded into the same or other people's interest agenda who are well placed to capitalize on the accelerated waning and inevitable collapse of the monetary system as we know it. Keep talking about solutions and alternatives to fertilize something real unto the the marketplace of ideas for the next round, lest we repeat our past follies and drop yet another ball when it is handed to us by supplant or consent or apathetic default. There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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09-06-2012, 10:25 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
Upped TubeRipped AVI to tracker:
Why LIBOR Scandal is the Mega-Scandal of Mega-Scandals http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=30733 B the W their hinted at solution sucks -- strict regulation and control but it's slightly better than what we have, if only slightly with a devil with at least a little bit of a conduit for public recourse. There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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09-06-2012, 10:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-06-2012 11:26 PM by h3rm35.)
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Quote:No it's NOT funny...it is kind of ironicly funny - but only because the comment contained a double negative, which totally muddles the sentiment and is indicative of why the banksters will never be tried; an under-educated, apathetic and intellectually lazy public that's been that way long enough to passively allow their own bondage for the convenience of drive-through liquor stores and microwaved burritos! Quote:B the W their hinted at solution sucks -- strict regulation and control... Got any other ideas that won't require a revolution to enact? Bank scandal a multibillion-dollar fraud What’s this nonsense about deregulation? Who are we to tell these financial experts how to run their businesses? But when a center right magazine like “The Economist” talks about “the rotten heart of finance” in one headline, uses the term “banksters” in another, and says the scandal may be “The biggest security fraud in history” you get a sense it’s a really big deal. When the Huffington Post reports about Libor documents, which date back to 2007 showing the Federal Reserve was fully aware that banks were lying about their borrowing costs and chose to take no action against them, then it is a really big deal. This widespread manipulation of an interest rate set by banks which self-report what they’ll pay to borrow money for short periods, may have cost borrowers and state and local governments untold billions of dollars. ... This group of “bangsters” is just in the U.K., where 16 institutions are currently under investigation for rigging Libor, including major U.S. and Euro banks. Was anyone fired or jailed? ... This will drag on for years, there will be a lot of blather and the scenario will repeat down the road. But we’ve been here before and new deregulation statutes will be savaged by lobbyists and co-opted elected officials again. Stick around. Experts Warned CFTC About Potential Libor Rigging 15 Years Ago By: David Dayen Thursday September 6, 2012 10:59 am The Commodity Futures Trading Commission has led the investigation into the Libor rate-rigging scandal. They have pursued civil charges, and worked with the Justice Department on criminal ones. But when the CFTC first learned about how banks could easily implement rate-rigging, they ignored it – when the agency was under the executive branch of President Bill Clinton, all the way back in 1997. Richard Robb, a professor at Columbia University, understood that the calculation of the Libor was the core problem that needed to be addressed. Under the current standard, 16 banks write in to the British Banker’s Association with the interest rate at which they are charged to secure funding, and the organization posts a range of those, throwing out the high and the low numbers, to determine the rate. There was a better way, devised by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) back in 1981, which engaged a much larger pool of banks, and picked 20 blindly and at random to determine the rate, on two separate occasions. Eventually they would get a result that would better reflect the actual interbank lending rate. This worked well for 16 years. In September 1996, the CME applied to the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission for permission to switch from its own, sensible Libor calculation to the BBA’s. Presumably, the CME worried that a rival exchange would steal market share by starting a contract tied to BBA Libor, which was and is the standard floating rate index for swaps, loans and notes. On Nov. 18, 1996, I filed a public comment letter with the CFTC objecting to the CME’s plan. Here are some excerpts from that letter: “In a severe funding crisis … banks might respond to the BBA survey with a rate substantially below their true lending rate. Since the BBA survey results appear on Telerate [a Bloomberg-like information service widely used at the time], the banks may want to hide the extent of their troubles…The CME randomly draws a limited number of reference banks from a larger pool on the futures settlement date. This ensures that banks will not know ahead of time whether they will be able to participate in the survey. The BBA, on the other hand, surveys the same sixteen banks every day. To see how a bank could exploit this feature of the BBA survey to manipulate the index, suppose that the four high quotes are expected to be the three Japanese banks (Bank of Tokyo/Mitsubishi, Fuji, and Sumitomo Trust) and the Bank of China. Then, any of the remaining banks can raise their quote, and the effect will flow directly to the final index. A British bank, for example, might raise its quote by 12.5 basis points. Since eight banks make up the average, the average will rise by 12.5/8 = 1.5626 basis points. If two banks worked together, they could raise the average by 3 basis points [...] That was more than 15 years ago. No one should be surprised that banks would suppress their posted rates in a funding crisis or that they might manipulate the survey for gain. It was easy to see this coming. Robb adds that CFTC ignored the letter. And then every single consequence that he described came to pass. Robb writes, “While the CFTC is dishing out nine-figure fines to banks caught up in the scandal, it might want to consider another possible culprit: itself.” There are actually simple solutions to the various banking crises that regulators and bankers in concert do not want to fix. nice... gotta make sure we respect the banksters' right to a speedy trial... September 06, 2012 14:03 ET MONDAY DEADLINE: Levi & Korsinsky Notifies Investors With Losses on Their Investment in Barclays PLC of Class Action Lawsuit and the Deadline of September 10, 2012 to Seek a Lead Plaintiff Position NEW YORK, NY--(Marketwire - Sep 6, 2012) - Levi & Korsinsky announces that a class action lawsuit has been commenced in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on behalf of investors who purchased sponsored American Depository Receipts ("ADRs") of Barclays PLC ("Barclays" or the "Company") (NYSE: BCS) between July 10, 2007 and June 27, 2012. For more information, click here: http://zlk.9nl.com/barclays-bcs. There is no cost or obligation to you. The complaint alleges that during the Class Period Barclays issued materially false and misleading information regarding the Company's internal controls, financial performance and financial condition. In particular, the complaint alleges that defendants participated in a scheme to manipulate Libor interest rates for the benefit of Barclays' traders and to make the Company appear financially healthier than it was during the Class Period. The Complaint further alleges that defendants made material misstatements to the Company's shareholders about the Company's purported compliance with their principles and operational risk management processes. On June 27, 2012, Barclays was found by US and UK regulators to have manipulated its Libor rate submissions. Then on July 2, 2012, Barclays announced the resignation of its Chairman, Marcus Agius, after the Company agreed to pay $450 million to settle accusations that it attempted to manipulate interest rates to help its own profits. If you suffered a loss in Barclays you have until September 10, 2012 to request that the Court appoint you as lead plaintiff. Your ability to share in any recovery doesn't require that you serve as a lead plaintiff. To obtain additional information, contact Joseph E. Levi, Esq. either via email at jlevi@zlk.com or by telephone at (877) 363-5972, or visit http://zlk.9nl.com/barclays-bcs. Levi & Korsinsky is a national firm with offices in New York and Washington D.C. The firm has extensive expertise in prosecuting securities litigation involving financial fraud, representing investors throughout the nation in securities and shareholder lawsuits. Attorney advertising. Prior results do not guarantee similar outcomes. Contact Information CONTACT: Levi & Korsinsky, LLP Joseph Levi, Esq. Eduard Korsinsky, Esq. 30 Broad Street - 24th Floor New York, NY 10004 Tel: (212) 363-7500 Toll Free: (877) 363-5972 Fax: (212) 363-7171 http://www.zlk.com
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10-03-2012, 04:06 AM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
I love how evryone in the media has completely forgotten about this topic. Total bullshit.
on a lighter note:
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12-17-2012, 11:15 AM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
Quote:Subject: Synopsis of shootings by Karzi Kearse There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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12-17-2012, 04:18 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
Well that ties things together in ways you would never here mentioned by the Lamestream media. Thanks FT.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Mohandas Gandhi Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind. Did you think you were put here for something less? Chief Arvol Looking Horse |
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12-17-2012, 06:02 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
(09-06-2012 10:54 PM)h3rm35 Wrote: Got any other ideas that won't require a revolution to enact? Supporting human freedom does not require a revolution. In the free market there is no Federal Reserve. In the free market there are no Bailouts. In the free market banks compete to provide the highest interest rates to savers, and the lowest interest rates to borrowers. In the free market banks don't pay legislators to write beneficial regulations for them. |
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03-18-2013, 05:41 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
With the Cyprus Bank runs we're likely to see gold on the upswing, but it looks like we have some evidence coming forth that gold is gamed pretty much to the extent that the LIBOR interest rate is decided on behind closed doors by the banking cabal.
Quote:Gold Could Be The Next Libor Scandalhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/14...78008.html Related: VIDEO :: U.S. Probes Gold Pricing http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...62340.html Interest Rate Manipulation Extends Far Beyond Libor, Secret Survey Reveals http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19...98135.html .. and gold and interest rates aren't all that is on the manipulative slate I'm sure. Why wouldn't every price be at least massaged if not all out manipulated - directly or indirectly. The $2.5 Trillion Global Oil Scam: Intercontinental Exchange Commodity Manipulation http://concen.org/forum/thread-31284.html World's Stocks Controlled by Select Few - In Depth SFIT Statistical Analysis Paper http://concen.org/forum/thread-33816.html More on the Cyprus Bank Runs.. CYPRUS : BANK RUNS HAVE STARTED ! http://concen.org/forum/thread-48808.html There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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03-18-2013, 07:09 PM
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RE: Why LIBOR scandal is the mega-scandal of mega-scandals (maybe...
(03-18-2013 05:41 PM)FastTadpole Wrote: With the Cyprus Bank runs we're likely to see gold on the upswing,<snip> Indeed... My signature on another forum : ![]() Up $12.30 an ounce at the moment. |
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