Today's Set-up for a Nuclear False Flag Attack

[CharliePrime]

So these government heros were doing their Boy Scout best to track a wayward nuclear weapon when it suddenly slipped away from them onto a submarine and disappeared.

Goodness gracious. What bad luck that. Oh well.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/30/...m-germany/

Hmmmm. Now where would I drive a sub to set off a nuke if I were a 'terrorist'? Perhaps some major world city, near a large estuary, during early August, while some big media event was going on. Hmmmm.

This story stinks to high heaven.

Quote:Attempts to track the sub in the busy harbour were in vain and it is unknown what the nationality of the crew were or the destination, whether the UK, the US or some place in the Middle East.

Do they really expect us to believe submarines just whip around harbors willy nilly and get 'lost'? "Hey Nigel. Did you see a submarine rolling through here a minute ago? No? Oh well."

Beeeee Eessss! The fees and paperwork to even enter a modern port are substantial and well-defined, much less dock and do cargo.

These criminals will stop at nothing.

[h3rm35]

nice find, thanks

[dagomobdog]

Pretty suspicious, imo. Hmmm... wonder where that wayward nuke will turn up?

[thokling]

Any vessel that simply "disappears" is under the protection of greater forces backed with gobs of cash, I would offer.

[Anarchist]

I got it! It is those filthy, evil, terrorist Iranians! They were so hurt by the wonderful and peaceful sanctions we put on them, they could not finish their nuke! So they stole one! So now, they will hide the proof of their almost done nuke, and instead use this stolen nuke! And we never will be able to prove it is them, but we know it is! They probably have Saddam's WMD's too... We gotta carpet bomb the ocean to protect ourselves preemptively. Of course, Congress would never do that, they are too divided on party lines. We should just have Obama order war on the ocean for harbouring terrorists by signing an executive order! He will save us, he took down bin Laden, ya'know? BOMB THEM OCEANS!!!!!

Now... I wonder where and when we will see this nuke go off? Anyone else think New York? They sure do like New York for some reason...

[CharliePrime]

(05-03-2012 04:51 AM)Anarchist Wrote:  I wonder where and when we will see this nuke go off?

I would speculate London, during the Olympics, except so many of the Global Elite have built the City of London into their comfortable viper's den.

The Global Elite require massive amounts of expensive infrastructure to avoid contact with us cattle; private helicopters, private chefs, skyscraper residences with hundreds of servants showing up daily to maintain the building, bespoke clothing and furniture makers, armed private security services, accountants' offices, limousine parking, etc.

A nuke near London would destroy the elite infrastructure in that city they have spent centuries building.

[Anarchist]

There have been rumors of a false flag during the Olympics for a while... But London is one of the three city-states. DC, London, and Vatican. DC is war, London is finance, and Vatican is religion, all control their particular subject. I do not think they would blow up their vital city state, but who knows?

[zalco]

Is there any other source for this than VT? Would just like some more confirmation. Tried searching myself but always end up back at VT.

Thought I'd throw this in the mix. Predictive programming? Maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5voq1On4vw4

Reminiscent of The Lone Gunman.

[CharliePrime]

(05-03-2012 06:10 PM)zalco Wrote:  Tried searching myself but always end up back at VT.

That is suspicious.

There are hundreds of unaccounted-for nuclear weapons floating around out there. Why was this story planted now, in the manner it was?

So far we have:

* Old Russian nuke, in Germany, given to Israeli submarine, supposedly 'slips away from' American and British intelligence who were 'tracking' it.

* Story injected by Gordon Duff. (bio says "extensive experience in international banking...consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic representative for UN humanitarian and economic development efforts.")

* With 500 kiloton characteristics

I don't know exactly what to make of all that.

[God_Help_Us_All]

(05-05-2012 06:12 PM)CharliePrime Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 06:10 PM)zalco Wrote:  Tried searching myself but always end up back at VT.

That is suspicious.

There are hundreds of unaccounted-for nuclear weapons floating around out there. Why was this story planted now, in the manner it was?

So far we have:

* Old Russian nuke, in Germany, given to Israeli submarine, supposedly 'slips away from' American and British intelligence who were 'tracking' it.

* Story injected by Gordon Duff. (bio says "extensive experience in international banking...consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic representative for UN humanitarian and economic development efforts.")

* With 500 kiloton characteristics

I don't know exactly what to make of all that.

The "Whore of Babylon" being struck down? I saw an article the other day that said Iran already had some "former Soviet" nukes. It's a bit like the rumors regarding the Enterprise's deployment in the Persian Gulf. Compound that with the link off of Drudge reporting Bibi holding early elections so he can "deal with Iran." Something definitely smells fishy here....

[h3rm35]

hope this isn´t too long for you - if it is, go ahead and let me know where you´d like it edited down to and i´ll take care of it.

Secret Cooperation: Israel Deploys Nuclear Weapons on German-Built Submarines
Global Research, June 4, 2012
Der Spiegel - 2012-06-03

A German shipyard has already built three submarines for Israel, and three more are planned. Now SPIEGEL has learned that Israel is arming the submarines with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The German government has known about Israel's nuclear weapons program for decades, despite its official denials.
Germany is helping Israel to develop its military nuclear capabilities, SPIEGEL has learned. According to extensive research carried out by the magazine, Israel is equipping submarines that were built in the northern German city of Kiel and largely paid for by the German government with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The missiles can be launched using a previously secret hydraulic ejection system. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak told SPIEGEL that Germans should be "proud" that they have secured the existence of the state of Israel "for many years."

In the past, the German government has always stuck to the position that it is unaware of nuclear weapons being deployed on the vessels. Now, however, former high-ranking officials from the German Defense Ministry, including former State Secretary Lothar Rühl and former chief of the planning staff Hans Rühle, have told SPIEGEL that they had always assumed that Israel would deploy nuclear weapons on the submarines. Rühl had even discussed the issue with the military in Tel Aviv.

Israel has a policy of not commenting officially on its nuclear weapons program. Documents from the archives of the German Foreign Ministry make it clear, however, that the German government has known about the program since 1961. The last discussion for which there is evidence took place in 1977, when then-Chancellor Helmut Schmidt spoke to then-Israeli Foreign Minister Moshe Dayan about the issue.

The submarines are built by the German shipyard HDW in Kiel. Three submarines have already been delivered to Israel, and three more will be delivered by 2017. In addition, Israel is considering ordering its seventh, eighth and ninth submarines from Germany.

The German government recently signed the contract for the delivery of the sixth vessel. According to information obtained by SPIEGEL, Chancellor Angela Merkel made substantial concessions to the Israelis. Not only is Berlin financing one-third of the cost of the submarine, around €135 million ($168 million), but it is also allowing Israel to defer its payment until 2015.

Merkel had tied the delivery of the sixth submarine to a number of conditions, including a demand that Israel stop its expansionist settlement policy and allow the completion of a sewage treatment plant in the Gaza Strip, which is partially financed with German money. So far, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met none of the terms.

[Krise]

update to the original story:
Breaking – Exclusive: Japan Attack, German Terror-Intel Group Complicit
Confirmations of Nuke Move Against Japan, South Korea and US
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/30/...complicit/

Quote:Japan’s top secret Plutonium production and storage facility facing attack, a radiation catastrophe for North America planned. Based on multiple confirmations from official sources, plans are afoot to use a Russian nuclear device to destroy the secret Japanese weapons grade facility at Rokkasho Mura in the Aomori Prefecture.

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BACKGROUND

The nuclear weapon involved had left Bremerhaven, one of four, weeks ago. We had been told it was taken ashore in the UK, “dialed” or “detuned” to 100 kilotons for an attack to disrupt the London Olympics. Several intelligence agencies were involved after the American VELA satellite system detected the weapon which disappeared when the submarine submerged immediately after loading.

Gossip from Whitehall indicated that a “certain ministry” had grounded Britain’s aircraft capable of detecting nuclear material, something we were able to confirm from many sources from intelligence agencies to simply Facebook gossip originating from operational personnel.

Days later, the “all clear” was given, and a “not very public” statement was issued to intelligence agencies that the weapon had been recovered. We now believe this announcement to have been purposefully misleading, that the weapon was moved, not “recovered” and was reloaded onto a German Model 21 U Boat. Quote from a knowledgeable source on the logistical questions raised by this mission:

“Confusion re U-Boat probably engendered by refit – we think she IS a Type XXI, but refitted with new diesel engines for surface running and Type 212 type Air Independent Propulsion.
Transit time right in the ball-park – we are thinking 13 knots, journey 13,000 nautical miles, transit 1,000 hours, ie approximately 41 days 16 hours. Allowing for estimated departure on 23rd April, and two days for refuelling, crew changeover, routine maintenance etc, arrival in the target are on June 7th is credible, plus or minus say two days.”

The form of delivery, doom will come in such a historical package, a Nazi superweapon, a submarine decades beyond what was capable, refitted, one of several, on another mission.

Full article:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05/30/...complicit/

[temp9]

I haven't read the entire VT article, but...

Quote:BACKGROUND

The nuclear weapon involved had left Bremerhaven, one of four, weeks ago. We had been told it was taken ashore in the UK, “dialed” or “detuned” to 100 kilotons for an attack to disrupt the London Olympics. Several intelligence agencies were involved after the American VELA satellite system detected the weapon which disappeared when the submarine submerged immediately after loading.

According to the information I find, the Vela system was designed only to detect nuclear explosions (ie. testing), specifically to monitor compliance with the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, and not to detect the presence or location of nuclear devices. The satellites were launched primarily in the 60's with the last launch in 1970, and, even though they all apparently continued working long after their expected lifespan, the last one was turned off on September 27 1984.

So, if that is the standard of reporting that we can expect from Veterans Today, and their Senior Editor Gordon Duff, then I'm going to call disinformation/bullshit on the whole story.

[SiLVa]

If anyone's ever read Dan Brown's Deception Point would easily know, if they really had a sub or any ship on or underwater somewhere and they really wanted to find it, they could.

They have underwater sensors all over the place just for that reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Un...nce_Office

http://www.iooc.us/ocean-observations/sensors/

Quote:Professional defense and aviation journals suggest that NGA, the National Reconnaissance Office, and the Air Force have developed sensors that can penetrate foliage on the ground, peek deep under water and even into the ground. Officials wouldn't comment.
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