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The Return Of Debtor’s Prisons: Thousands Of Americans Jailed For Not Paying Bills
03-06-2012, 03:39 AM
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The Return Of Debtor’s Prisons: Thousands Of Americans Jailed For Not Paying Bills
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The Return Of Debtor’s Prisons: Thousands Of Americans Jailed For Not Paying Their Bills

By Marie Diamond on Dec 13, 2011 at 5:20 pm

Federal imprisonment for unpaid debt has been illegal in the U.S. since 1833. It’s a practice people associate more with the age of Dickens than modern-day America. But as more Americans struggle to pay their bills in the wake of the recession, collection agencies are using harsher methods to get their money, ushering in the return of debtor’s prisons.

NPR reports that it’s becoming increasingly common for people to serve jail time as a result of their debt. Because of “sloppy, incomplete or even false documentation,” many borrowers facing jail time don’t even know they’re being sued by creditors:

Take, for example, what happened to Robin Sanders in Illinois. She was driving home when an officer pulled her over for having a loud muffler. But instead of sending her off with a warning, the officer arrested Sanders, and she was taken right to jail.

“That’s when I found out [that] I had a warrant for failure to appear in Macoupin County. And I didn’t know what it was about.” Sanders owed $730 on a medical bill. She says she didn’t even know a collection agency had filed a lawsuit against her. [...]

A company will often sell off its debt to a collection agency, generally called a creditor. That creditor files a lawsuit against the debtor requiring a court appearance. A notice to appear in court is supposed to be given to the debtor. If they fail to show up, a warrant is issued for their arrest.

More than a third of all states now allow borrowers who don’t pay their bills to be jailed, even when debtor’s prisons have been explicitly banned by state constitutions. A report by the American Civil Liberties Union found that people were imprisoned even when the cost of doing so exceeded the amount of debt they owed.

Sean Matthews, a homeless New Orleans construction worker, was incarcerated for five months for $498 of legal debt, while his jail time cost the city six times that much. Some debtors are even forced to pay for their jail time themselves, adding to their financial troubles.

Stories of surprise arrests for unpaid debt have been reported in states including Indiana, Tennessee and Washington. In Kansas City, one man ended up in jail after missing only a furniture payment. The Federal Trade Commission received more than 140,000 complaints related to debt collection in 2010, and they’ve taken 10 debt collection agencies to court for their practices in the past three years.

Since the start of 2010, judges have signed off on more than 5,000 arrest warrants since in nine counties alone. Beverly Yang, a legal aid attorney, says many debtor’s — and judges — don’t know debtor’s rights, which results in the accused being intimidated into a pay agreement. She’s seen judges interrogate debtors about why they can’t pay more and whether they are trying hard enough to find a job.

Yang says some collection agencies are only too eager to use needlessly harsh tactics. “Whatever the creditors or the creditors’ attorneys can do to leverage some kind of payment, it will help their profits enormously because they have, literally, millions of these.” Debt collection is a lucrative business — the industry is set to grow 26 percent in the next three years.

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03-06-2012, 04:17 AM (This post was last modified: 03-06-2012 08:17 AM by MasterChiefa.)
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Could it be that these "Americans" consented to it all?

If someone or something else is the problem, what can be done other than complain and hope others join your cause?
Conversely, if you're the problem, could it be that through identifying specifically where a mistake's been made, you can change to become the solution?

Did they take it personally and assume that they're the name, "you", defendant, "owner", tenant, occupant, resident etc?
Did they claim "ownership" of property someone or something else also claims "ownership" of, therefore providing evidence of being involved in controversy? You might say I have no evidence that anything or anyone else is claiming "ownership" of the stuff we use, and I agree; but without evidence either way, why would anyone assume there are no other claims of "ownership" and risk getting involved in controversy? After all, from what I can tell, all court cases are based on controversy; evidenced by the fact that every case is titled "So and So versus So and So"...

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03-06-2012, 05:43 AM (This post was last modified: 03-06-2012 05:44 AM by psilocybin.)
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(03-06-2012 04:17 AM)MasterChiefa Wrote:  Could it be that these "Americans" consented to it all?

If someone or something else is the problem, what can be done other than complain and hope others join your cause?
Conversely, if you're the problem, could it be that through identifying specifically where a mistake's been made, you can change to become the solution?

Did they take it personally and make assumptions by identifying as a name, "you", defendant, "owner", tenant, occupant, resident etc?
Did they claim "ownership" of property someone or something else also claims "ownership" of, therefore providing evidence of being involved in controversy? You might say I have no evidence that anything or anyone else is claiming "ownership" of the stuff we use, and I agree; but without evidence either way, why would anyone assume there are no other claims of "ownership" and risk getting involved in controversy? After all, from what I can tell, all court cases are based on controversy; evidenced by the fact that every case is titled "So and So versus So and So"...

Beyond not keeping up on your paperwork, which will usually get you an O.R. if you get picked up on a bench warrant, Child care payments are the only thing they can get you for, and funny enough, they put you on furlow and, if you ditch it, you don't get punished. You just wind up in the same place if you run into the cops, At least, until you pay your shit.

All they can really do if you owe is take your shit and shit on your name.

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03-06-2012, 05:54 AM
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(03-06-2012 05:43 AM)psilocybin Wrote:  All they can really do if you owe is take your shit and shit on your name.
Why would anyone assume that they "owe" anything, or have an ability to "pay"? Can you "prove" that you "own" money, the name, or anything else?

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03-06-2012, 08:47 AM
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Canada is heading the same way down the same road with the new MEGA-crime Prison Industrial Complex bill, so I have read.

.. and posted on:

Massive Canadian Crime Bill: The Safe Streets and Communities Act (Bill C-10)
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=42924

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03-09-2012, 03:32 AM
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Not good. Undecided Glad you posted this RC.

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