San Francisco Police Shoot Victim Five Times

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San Francisco Police Shoot Innocent Victim Five Times After Chasing Him Down For Not Paying Bus Fare!

[yeti]

Witnesses are saying he had a pistol and shot at police, so this isn't a clear case of pigs murdering innocents. I don't know either way, but I do know there is plenty of other footage out there where pigs are clearly murdering people.

[mexika]

(07-20-2011 12:01 AM)yeti Wrote:  Witnesses are saying he had a pistol and shot at police, so this isn't a clear case of pigs murdering innocents. I don't know either way, but I do know there is plenty of other footage out there where pigs are clearly murdering people.

In new york before 911, that zionist fuk had to come up to community radio and explain why the police murdering people, colored people left and right. This was taking place almost on a constant basis. They hate us for our freedoms ah??

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10 Reason's Why Police Officer's Shoot and Kill You

[Dunamis]

The "witnesses", seem to only be cops. They claim the gun could have been taken by a member of the public after the guy was shot...





First article I read the day after: http://www.ktvu.com/news/28573517/detail.html

Recent news: http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/20...lice-chief

What a person has previously done should have no bearing on the use of firearms by police, no matter how much I disagree with his previous conviction (pimping a 14 y/o, which granted, is the sick world we live in).

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Quote:The Ongoing Struggle Against Police Violence
A Life Worth Less Than Train Fare
By MIKE KING

Another young, unarmed black man, Kenneth Harding, has been gunned down, shot numerous times in the back as he fled, his empty hands in the air in broad daylight. His crime had been a simple train fare evasion for which San Francisco police executed him in the street. Dozens of witnesses saw a sight that has become commonplace in US cities, capturing images with cell phones of police surrounding the man and watching him struggle and writhe from a distance, in a swelling pool of his own blood. Without either offering the severely wounded man assistance, searching him, or otherwise looking for the supposed weapon, the police, most of whom had their backs turned to the suspect, would later try and say that he had fired at the them and randomly into the crowd that had assembled. No one in the crowd said anything about him having or firing a gun. Police would later say one had mysteriously appeared, via an informant. The police publicly named Harding as a "person of interest" in a Seattle killing, a day after he had been shot dead by police. They are using a criminal conviction to attempt to further devalue his life. This piece is not about previous convictions, or the "official story" which the police are constructing as I write, about post-mortem murder suspicions and mystery guns. One thing is clear, as far as police knew he was a simple fare evader. As far as multiple witnesses could see, Harding had no gun and the shots all went one way.

Whether BART police, Oakland PD, or SFPD, the stories have been very similar. Suspects are gunned down in the street, no weapon, usually shot in the back as they ran, almost all men of color, a homeless or mentally-ill white man here or there. We get a similar story each time. One that is weak, lacks probable cause for lethal force, and is based on the opinion of the offending officers whose word is unquestioned by superiors, city officials, or the corporate press. Unless there is a video. Mehserle, the cop who shot Oscar Grant, thought his glock was a lighter and larger and fluorescent tazer, though it had a completely different grip. An exception to the rule, Mehserle did time for his crime – a few paltry months. He was recently released. The OPD shot Derrick Jones in the back, he was carrying a scale. No charges were filed. Several killings of unarmed men of color in Oakland have yielded temporary suspensions, followed by reinstatements with back pay. Some acting, individual OPD officers have killed more than one unarmed man on separate occasions and still patrol the street, guns loaded, and ready to go.

The root causes of these murders by the police are multiple and far too complex to be fully discussed here: insulated and unaccountable police power committed to upholding a particular racial and economic order; psychological fear-turned-violence or plain hostility among the police; white supremacy at several levels of society from the motivations of suburban law-and-order voters to the historical legacies of the police in this country; to geographies of segregation, of which the Bayview is a prime example.

The result is a system of violence that is specifically targeted, on one level, and completely indiscriminant on another. Targeted in the sense that concentrated police presence, aggressive police tactics (profiling, checkpoints, not so random Muni train inspections for tickets, etc.), and police self-conceptions as occupiers of hostile territory are all almost entirely exclusive to poor, urban communities of color. The nature, logic, tactics and history of the police in communities of color is not a few bad apples, related to violent crime rates that have fallen, or a new phenomena. Within these targeted communities the violence of the police is often completely indiscriminate. A simple traffic stop, a response to a domestic argument, a skipped train fare. Case, after case, after case. Candlelight vigil, after community mural, after RIP rap, it is the same over and over. No gun. Hands up. Running away. Shot in the back. No accountability.

Some people use the words "police terrorism" to describe this reality. You don't see this in the mainstream news, or on the lips of aspiring city council people, or from most non-profits in the community. Even people within movements against police violence get silenced for using this language by people who deem themselves more responsible or better educated. We have sketched the nature of the police in the city. What is the definition of terrorism? The US State Department defines terrorism as:

"Premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets… usually intended to influence an audience."

The police in the Bayview or East Oakland understand themselves as occupiers of the community, a premeditated understanding, though not inaccurate, of an enemy relationship – not between cops and robbers, but between cops and communities of color. The political motivation is one of containment – containment of a community plagued by unemployment, failing schools, anger, hopelessness, drug abuse, and violence. Police respond to crimes to an extent, but their more general responsibility is to control space, maintain order, and intimidate. This process is one of dehumanization of communities through social and economic exclusion enforced through various forms of containment, of which the police are the most visible.

People not subjected to this reality have the luxury of imagining it as something other than it is. Many can blindly accept law enforcement arguments, however unlikely. Many can actively or tacitly support the social relationships that have one group of unaccountable, overpaid men with guns, who almost always live in some other community, containing and terrorizing neighborhoods because the people who live there are poor, and of color, and somehow still considered worth less - worth less than a train fare apparently.

For the police and the people of the Bayview / Hunter's Point, naivete and rationalizations are hard to come by. There is a war going on. The police talk about a war on crime, a war on drugs, a war on gangs. People in the city talk about a war on the community, a war on the youth, a war on black men. The logic of occupation is the same in the Bay Area as it is in Baghdad or Afghanistan. The police and military cross train each other in counter-insurgency, police train soldiers headed to battle, soldiers return to train city police in urban battlefield tactics. Studies show that war, occupation, and Manichean frames invariable lead to dehumanization of generalized enemies, and that dehumanization increases the propensity for indiscriminate violence. This context of dehumanization and police violence in the Bayview is driven by age-old racism, and more recent economic restructuring (neoliberalism), along with efforts at gentrification, which have exacerbated racial inequalities from income to health to imprisonment. The State has relieved itself of the obligation to do anything about this reality except to respond with naked force. Couple this with shrinking budgets for schools, social programs and public assistance as police budgets swell, and you have an increase in inequality and potential unrest related to that inequality, which simply serves as a justification for more and more police and prisons under the existing political common sense of those in power.

The solution to an occupation is not kinder tools of occupation. The solution to war is not sensitivity training for soldiers. The solution to war, is a just peace. Who gets to kill with impunity, and who gets shot in their back for nothing and left for dead, is about power, about long histories of racial oppression and how they get played out day after day, year after year.

If the problem is inherently political than the solution is political as well. So long as the unemployment rate in Hunter's Point is four times the city average, police will be concentrated there and will harness a disproportionate amount of community resources, leaving little behind for social programs. Schools stay below average at best, jobs are not created, unemployment remains high, more police are sent, and so on.

A vicious cycle of racialized poverty is interwoven with a vicious cycle of police occupation and terror. This is a war with several fronts of various direct and indirect forms of structural violence – schools, employment, housing, etc. – of which the police are the most visible and dramatic. The solution to this war is a just peace. A just peace is not possible without self-determination. Unarmed teenagers getting gunned down for not paying train fare is not a mistake, or an aberration, or "bad apples", it is a discrete, everyday act of war, the inevitable outcome of every occupation. Enough innocent blood has been shed, it is upon us to not only bring an end to this ongoing madness, but to foster self-determined communities which unravel and dismantle the vicious cycles of violence of which the police are but the armed guardians.

Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/king07202011.html

[mexika]

Yes, police are REAL Terrorist in communities of color. They are the OverSeers who keep the poor, the cultured, the ones carry a lot of heart for progressive programs yet every time there is a determination for self-sufficiency the PT (Police Terrorists) are used to eradicate it. These are not peace officers, they have never been about peace, but like the article said, "its a political battleground" based on racism, economics, mobility, self-sufficiency, self-determination, and being human. The Police like the article states, 'are military occupiers, brain dead, stupid, overbearing, snobs, arrogant, in fear and psycho gun wielding freak psychopaths. Communities of color are held hostage by Police Terrorists in almost every neighborhood across teh United Snakes of Amerrycon. For the average lucky charm who lives on top of mount heaven, they would not know about it since their reality is based on Barbecues and the Stock Market, milking third world countries through wall street and their political whores in high offices. It does not matter, not until it starts affecting them, then they start screaming like real goats and sheeple to their congress people to put more police, arrest and kill those who are trying to take away their apple pie from their rosy mouths. And yes, communities of color are always at war with Military Police Terrorist who will kill you one thousand times, take out a doughnut and smile it off with a small coffee. The end of a good killing day was good.......What is to expect in a Barbarian Nation?

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By Associated Press, Friday, July 22, 12:25 AM

SAN FRANCISCO — A police shooting that stirred community outcry and street protests took a stunning turn Thursday when investigators said they now believe a 19-year-old Washington parolee being sought for questioning in a Seattle murder fatally shot himself in the neck.

Kenneth Harding died Saturday in what San Francisco Police Chief Greg Suhr previously described as a shootout with police in which Harding fired the first shot.

However, police Cmdr. Mike Biel said Thursday that preliminary autopsy results showed the caliber of the bullet that killed 19-year-old Kenneth Harding did not match the caliber used by police.

“We believe that the fatal wound on Mr. Harding’s body was self-inflicted,” Biel said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/s...s_national

[April]

So he shot himself in the neck... or back... and then still managed to ditch the gun ?

Sure. I believe it.

[mexika]

Police State Lies.... The victim was still struggling with his life. These are not trained police peace officers, they are trained military killers. Colored communities under siege. There is no one night in black or brown where some racist mother fukr flies his terrorist helicopter very low ground to houses as to scare people of color while they are sleeping around 2 or 3 am in the morning. Evil fuks who show no type of consciousness for other human beings. Basically we are dealing with a bunch of lunatic psychopath killers..