Hitler's "Big Lie" Quote, & Conspiracy Research/Philosophy

[Infinite]

There was a Jewish encyclopedia or an article in a Jewish publication that said that the Bolshevik Revolution represented Talmudic values and was a Jewish endeavor or something, but two wrongs don't make a right and Hitler was a fucking tyrant

[R.R]

Infinite wrote:

Quote:When did that not exist? Hasn't it just grown throughout history? Technological advancement is inevitable as long as human beings have the capacity to think. I agree w/much of your analysis of civilization however I don't think I'm as pessimistic about it as you are. I think it's good you're going deeper with the analysis though, as opposed to the 'patriot' propaganda that much of the conspiracy research movement espouses. But I think that there could conceivably be a more harmonious existence with things like technology, commerce, education, etc. if qualities like virtue and integrity were embraced and taught to children as opposed to just blind allegiance to authority and hierarchy, materialism, etc. But it's like, we need to build these things in our own lives. We have to become the example of how we think things should be, as opposed to these people running around telling everyone to 'wake up' but not conducting themselves in a way that's motivating. And not treating people with respect and what not. Like the whole holier than thou screaming at people in the parking lot of Wal-Mart or the shopping mall with a loudspeaker rather than talking to people like humans. I'm not saying you do any of this, I'm talking about the truth movement in general. The way I see it those of us who don't like how things are with society, culture, government, etc. need to be like pioneers building a better way.

I don't know if 'advancement' is inevitable and perhaps a definition of advancement should be given and I feel that the definition for technology is too broad aswell. The definition of technology has changed quite alot over time, especially since the industrial revolution and the examples you gave are clearly in context of modern life and not applicable to humanities' entire history. I'm not saying technology is inherently bad, just it is more of a luxury than a necessity and is 'essential to civilisation - not life' as I originally said. Life could go on without civilisation, humanity must have gone through a phase without it and lived through it and if we are just animals then we'd be able to continue without it (technology) like animals. Inevitable seems deterministic and if we applied your ideas of using wisdom and virtue in decision making we may come to the conclusion that it is not necessary to advance further kind of like in the Planet of the Apes where they forbid too much research into science due to the last generation wiping themselves out. I think our ability to think should tell us that life will hardly improve because we can get from New York to Tokyo faster in the future. Again technological improvement in these contexts are more beneficial to commerce and business than the legitimate improvement of life. Check out Jacques Ellul's book The Technological Society.

Sorry to harp on about it and I agree with the rest of what you wrote 100%. On the one hand I am greatful that the Christian/Patriot community kept alive alternative research especially when no one else was looking into it, but it is very true that they do not go deeper (perhaps they think they do by discussing God) and will basically have you believe it all started with the Enlightenment age and it subsequent revolutions. I think this is partially because 'western civilisation' has had such a heavy influence from the many denominations of Christianity that they can't go so far as saying civilisation itself is the issue as this would call into question their beliefs as they'll have to reevaluate what has been going on in their name. Also it is mainly protestants who delve into the research and to an extent realise it is deeper but throw it all in the hands of the Vatican while painting themselves as pure, which is utter rubbish.

I would add however, with regards to teaching virtue and integrity, that they actually were taught throughout the centuries, primarily to the upperclasses leading to the stereotype of the gentlemanly Englishman for example. Its just that those things have a different meaning for different people/groups etc. But to reiterate I think we can live harmoniously and happily along with what you mentioned but I'd argue that the change required is the change in psyche of whoever holds the power and influence in this world. For example many free energy researchers mysteriously disappear due to such devices' ability to free mankind instead of bonding him further to his government.

You are spot on that we have to lead by example, as I mentioned in an earlier post the need to revert to self sufficiency. The truth movement itself is extremely immature and will get no relevant results in the foreseeable future. As long as they can be divided (inspite of being agreed on the evils of our monetary system, medicinal policies, MSM propaganda, the push for world government and so on) simply because they assign a different capstone to the top of the pyramid will ensure they make no relevant progress and until then they are actually part of the problem - the modern version of the religions of the past who were all agreed that evil exists but could never agree and thus fought with each other in an attempt to eradicate it.

pureenergy wrote:

Quote:For all you "Hitler was evil, he mudered the "jews" " crowd,

The "jews" killed 10 times more people while running the USSR then Hitler is accused of killing.

Its this kind of idiot that ensures nothing gets done and is a perfect example of what I've just typed above.