Government Agents Seize Oath Keeper's New Born From Hospital - Subversive Ploy?

[FastTadpole]

I saw this yesterday and I was initially shocked .. then thought about it a second or three...





Pisses you off right? That's what it was designed to do IMO.

I did some brief research into Oath Keepers.

There are two or three organizations that call themselves "Oath Keepers" in the US. Their mantras are basically the same "Protect American Citizens, Uphold the Constitution and don't blindly follow Presidential orders from the commander in chief".

I'm getting conflicting reports. Positive denials, "Awaiting confirmation" and "call the hospitals and CPS" is posted all over the place. Stewart Rhodes' Oath Keepers hasn't even confirmed this guy is a member. But it is updated that there is a confirmed affidavit - although it is not posted to respect privacy(?).

Stewart Rhodes' Oath Keepers
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/o...-hospital/

This is being used to incite violence - which is what they want for the (private foreign) police state to clamp down.

Let's go on facts and truth is kids ARE being taken by the state and CPS has far too much power to kidnap our children. True or False this should bring some attention as to what goes down at Child "Protective" Services.

Beware of Oath Keepers

There are a few groups called Oath Keepers - classic divide and Conquer. This (I think) is the real one not affiliated (at the top) the hijacked Tea Party (Controlled Republican Leaning / vote splitting opposition).

http://www.realoathkeepers.org/
There is no mention of the CPS kidnapping on the site.

Beware Stewart Rhodes
http://www.realoathkeepers.org/stewart-r...te-keeper/

Oath Keepers are a Fraud
http://www.subvertednation.net/oath-keep...e-a-fraud/

Real Oath Keepers
http://www.subvertednation.net/real-oath-keepers/

Really it's up to the individual they only need to take marching orders from themselves and

Oh and Ron Paul is a shill too but he talks a good game, gives people the illusion that they have a voice in the system - all his time in Congress what has he actually accomplished? He supports Republican Incumbents. Is a shameless gold promoter (scam). I bring this up because Stewart Rhodes gained credibility under Ron Paul and gatekeeper / fear monger Alex Jones.

This could very well be a orchestrated sacrifice and the fact is that the alleged kidnapping is being used as a social engineering ploy does not take away from the strong possibility that these parents had their child taken from them, and there is a child out there that had her parents taken away for the sheer purpose of making this a more darkly convincing false flag to incite fear and hatred.

But don't believe a word I say. Personally I'm not ruling out ANYTHING just yet. Do your own research - keep in mind who owns the internet. Employ the use of your processor (heart, mind and soul) instead of just downloading stuff to your hard drive (brain).

There is only one conspiracy - to concentrate power in the hands of the few.

[yeti]

I don't know much about the "Real Oath Keepers", but check out their language on this page:

Quote:The video was the first part of a plan to continue reaching out to our armed forces and attempt to disrupt the jew mind control spell that many of these unwitting pawns are under.

Quote:The real story is that Rhodes is a kike spreading disinformation and is a total piece of shit, nothing more.

Quote:Rhodes’ right hand man on his “board of directors” is a kike named David Freeman, who also claims to be former Military, but we know what service looks like for these jews.

Quote:This is why ROK is based solely on an oath to OUR PEOPLE, meaning all NON-jews ONLY, and not the destructive form of government that allowed these fuckers to gain control over our nation!

These quotes are straight from the keyboard of the founder of the "Real Oath Keepers". Sounds to me like this guy is COINTELPRO...

[dicktater]

I agree with Yeti. But, I don't think the video posted by FT is an "official" Oathkeepers vid. It appears to have been posted by a supporter of Oathkeepers, though.

John Irish & Stephanie Janvrin were interviewed by AJ on Friday. John Irish supposedly supports Oathkeepers. His web surfing habits had been monitored long before the takedown and planned theft of their high-value white baby. That's primarily where the connection to Oathkeepers comes into play. I believe this to be in part another salvo in the agenda to paint all "patriots," particularly those representing the greatest threat to the globalists agenda, as violent extremists and a threat to national security.

Message sent: Support Oathkeepers and we'll take your kids, your property, your liberty, and/or your life away from you.

CPS is totally fucking eVil. Though I no fan of the doctor, I recommend checking out the Ralph Winterrowd interview by Dr. Rebecca Carly just put up on the tracker to understand how CPS obtained the power it wields. Also see my comments there:

THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE (4TH branch of govn) and how it is being used...
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=20291

Ralph had been advising a former Georgia state senator, Nancy Schaefer, before she was murdered under extremely suspicious circumstances. See the highest ranking hits here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Nancy+Schaefer

Only government/public serpents and the military are required to swear an oath to defend the Constitution. I am neither a public serpent nor a dumb, stupid animal (per Kissinger) so, I have never sworn an oath to the Constitution. However, I do expect those who have sworn such to uphold and abide by their oath. Violation of that oath (the public trust) should be met with swift and severe punishment.

This is the declaration of the original Oathkeepers (founded by Stewart Rhodes):

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY

Click here to read full length version.

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

[dicktater]

From William N. Grigg' Pro Liberate blog:

The Kidnapping of Cheyenne Irish
The Regime's youngest political prisoner.
Friday, October 8, 2010
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/201...irish.html



"Happy birthday. You're property of the State."

This is the message that was given to Cheyenne Irish, the newborn daughter of New Hampshire residents Jonathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor, who was literally stolen from her parents hours after her birth on October 6.

While there are reportedly some "very serious" criminal allegations involved in this matter, the focal point of the case should be this: Among the reasons cited by New Hampshire's child "protection" directorate as supposed justification for the seizure of Cheyenne was the fact that "Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the, [sic] `Oath Keepers,' and had purchased several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and taser."

Quote:COMMENT: Oathkeepers is not a militia. It's not a gang. It's a club.
Additionally, New Hampshire State Constitution - Bill of Rights, articles of interest:

[Art.] 2-a. [The Bearing of Arms.] All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property and the state.

[Art.] 10. [Right of Revolution.] Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.

[Art.] 14. [Legal Remedies to be Free, Complete, and Prompt.] Every subject of this state is entitled to a certain remedy, by having recourse to the laws, for all injuries he may receive in his person, property, or character; to obtain right and justice freely, without being obliged to purchase it; completely, and without any denial; promptly, and without delay; conformably to the laws.

[Art.] 18. [Penalties to be Proportioned to Offenses; True Design of Punishment.] All penalties ought to be proportioned to the nature of the offense. No wise legislature will affix the same punishment to the crimes of theft, forgery , and the like, which they do to those of murder and treason. Where the same undistinguishing severity is exerted against all offenses, the people are led to forget the real distinction in the crimes themselves, and to commit the most flagrant with as little compunction as they do the lightest offenses. For the same reason a multitude of sanguinary laws is both impolitic and unjust. The true design of all punishments being to reform, not to exterminate mankind.

[Art.] 19. [Searches and Seizures Regulated.] Every subject hath a right to be secure from all unreasonable searches and seizures of his person, his houses, his papers, and all his possessions. Therefore, all warrants to search suspected places, or arrest a person for examination or trial in prosecutions for criminal matters, are contrary to this right, if the cause or foundation of them be not previously supported by oath or affirmation; and if the order, in a warrant to a civil officer, to make search in suspected places, or to arrest one or more suspected persons or to seize their property, be not accompanied with a special designation of the persons or objects of search, arrest, or seizure; and no warrant ought to be issued; but in cases and with the formalities, prescribed by law.

[Art.] 24. [Militia.] A well regulated militia is the proper, natural, and sure defense, of a state.

[Art.] 25. [Standing Armies.] Standing armies are dangerous to liberty, and ought not to be raised, or kept up, without the consent of the legislature.

[Art.] 33. [Excessive Bail, Fines, and Punishments Prohibited.] No magistrate, or court of law, shall demand excessive bail or sureties, impose excessive fines, or inflict cruel or unusual punishments.

"Whether or not the charges against Mr. Irish are true, this action is entirely unconstitutional and represents a very dangerous precedent," Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, a practicing defense attorney, pointed out to Pro Libertate. "Using this man's political views and alleged affiliations to define parental suitability in any way is entirely illegitimate, and a direct threat to the rights of parents who are political activists of any kind."

This is hardly the first time law enforcement officials and social workers have cited "political extremism" to justify severe and extra-constitutional sanctions against people who have not been convicted of an actual crime.

Just a few months ago, police in Salem County, Massachusetts arrested an innocent man named Gregory Girard on palpably fraudulent criminal charges because his wife -- acting as a dutiful collectivist drone -- reported that he had developed "extremist" political views.

Those unsanctioned opinions, coupled with legal firearms purchases, led to Girard's arrest and detention as a "danger to the community" -- but he was never formally charged or prosecuted. He was simply taken into Soviet-style administrative detention while the local members of Lavrenti Beria's fraternity -- that is, the county prosecutor and judge -- tried to devise a criminal charge to justify his imprisonment.


Political Prisoner Gregory Girard

After Girard spent four months in jail without a criminal charge, his case was eventually "dismissed without a finding." He was designated a "ward of the court," compelled to undergo routine psychiatric evaluation and treatment, and notified that he could be arrested and subjected to indefinite detention at any time such action was deemed suitable by his persecutors.

This was done to Girard because he was classified to be what law enforcement organs in the Soviet Union called a "socially dangerous person." This same calculus appears to have been used to justify the government kidnapping of Cheyenne Irish -- a much graver crime, given that it involved not merely the seizure of a man's means of self-defense, but of his newborn child.

Cheyenne "wasn't even 16 hours old when they came in and stole her from us," reports her father Jonathan. The head of security at Concord Hospital "had a nurse come in while Cheyenne was sleeping [who] lied to us that they just wanted to take her to the nursery to see the doctor to be discharged. Even though I said NO to have the doctor come in the room they took her anyway.... I followed [them] out to the nursery because I didn't want my daughter out of my sight, as we were walking out I saw several gentlemen wearing suits with detective badges and my gut just started wrenching."

"They rushed her into the nursery and locked her in," Jonathan continues. "[W]hile I was talking to one of the other nurses the head of security comes up behind me, grabs my arm and starts walking me down the hall saying `you need to keep an open mind, you need to just hear them out' and he just kept repeating himself ignoring my questions as to who `they' were."


Cheyenne, shortly before her abduction.

How typical of an agent of government aggression to be accusing the victim of "intolerance" even as the crime is in progress. This little touch is a variation on the police tactic of bellowing "Stop resisting!" to a helpless victim at the bottom of a thugswarm.

"When he got me in Stephanie's hospital room and sat me down on the couch the police department and DCYF [Division of Children, Youth and Family services -- that is, the child-snatcher apparat] showed up. Three uniformed patrol officers and 3-4 detectives with 2 DCYF social workers walked in the room.... [One] of the patrolmen asked if he could pat me down. I said NO, not giving my consent.... The officer grabbed my wrist, bent it behind my back and stood me up and proceeded to pat me down anyway."

After seizing a pocketknife and cigarette lighter and asking if Jonathan had "any other weapons" -- officer safety uber alles, you know -- the childnappers "gave us a fabricated affidavit ... telling us they were taking custody of our newborn daughter."

Jonathan was then informed that he would be shadowed, Stasi-style, by a "security officer." When contacted by Pro Libertate at approximately 3:45 MST on October 8, Mr. Irish was being forced to leave the Concord Hospital parking lot pursuant to a "notice" he had been sent by the local police.

"I received a phone call a while ago telling me to go to a website" -- that is, a Facebook page -- "where a group of people had taken it on themselves to organize a protest and rally," Irish recounted to Pro Libertate. "I was then sent a document by the Concord Police that said I wouldn't be allowed to go inside the hospital, or even be in the parking lot, unless it involved a medical emergency, otherwise it would be considered `criminal trespass.'"

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvZRM-P46rI[/youtube]

Irish refers to Cheyenne's mother, Stephanie Taylor, as his fiancee. The affidavit mentions that the couple had been under DCYF scrutiny "for approximately 21 months ... in a case involving two children of Stephanie Taylor; neglect petitions were filed on January 7, 2009 and a Termination of Parental Rights trial was recently concluded as to these two children...."

For reasons not specified in the document, Irish was "ordered to attend Ending the Violence with Scott Hampton; however, to date, has not completed this program." (Remember this point; we'll return to it anon.) The police complain that they have "responded to multiple calls" involving Irish and firearms, which resulted in "a pending charge for possession of a concealed weapon without a permit." It was in the context of that trivial paperwork matter that the affidavit mentioned Irish's "association" with the Oath Keepers, which was misrepresented in the affidavit as a "militia."

The Oath Keepers is an organization of current and retired law enforcement and military personnel who have pledged not to carry out patently unconstitutional orders. The group's founder, Stewart Rhodes, emphasizes that it encourages lawful, peaceful non-cooperation, rather than armed insurrection, as a way of interposing against the all-encompassing criminal assault by the Regime against individual rights.

Had an Oath Keeper been present at Concord Hospital on October 6, he would have refused to be party to the criminal abduction of Cheyenne Irish.

The "association" referred to in that document consists of occasional involvement by Irish and his fiancee in an on-line discussion group involving the Oath Keepers. Mentioning this tenuous connection served the immediate interests of the child abduction bureaucracy, since it created a caricature of the father as a potentially dangerous "extremist." But it also serves the long-term interest of the Homeland Security bureaucracy by using Jonathan Irish as an indispensable defendant in a potentially precedent-setting case.

"I know practically nothing about Jonathan Irish," Stewart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers told Pro Libertate. "Whatever we learn about his problems, the real question is this: Why was such prominent mention made of his political beliefs and supposed affiliations?"

If Mr. Irish is a legitimate criminal suspect -- as opposed to a troubled parent who is considered a political criminal -- why wasn't he taken into custody? Why was he left relatively free, while his newborn daughter was wrenched from her mother and father through deliberate deception and the threat of lethal force?

The Oath Keepers have been targeted by the so-called Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), an immensely profitable leftist "watchdog" group run by the degenerate fraud named Morris Dees. Through an illicit relationship with law enforcement agencies, both federal and local, the SPLC has become deeply involved in an effort to indoctrinate police (as well as educators and social workers) regarding the ubiquitous menace of "anti-government extremism." Rhodes points out that the SPLC, a nominally private group that is unaccountable to the public, is a member of the "Homeland Security Advisory Council" (HSAC) which published a report on domestic "radicalization" and "extremism" last Spring.

A work in progress, the HSAC describes itself as striving to prevent "violent crime that is motivated by extreme ideological beliefs" through "threat mitigation" and "community policing." That last term of art came into vogue during the early part of Bill Clinton's first term: Washington began to lavish funding on states and municipalities for the purpose of integrating the police with the social services bureaucracy, the better to create a seamless web from which no family could escape.

Before she presided over the Holocaust at Mt. Carmel as the federal Attorney General, Janet Reno was a forceful advocate of "community policing" in order to draw recalcitrant parents into the suffocating embrace of the omniprovident Nanny State.


"Community policing"; below, more of the same.

"They sit behind doors and they glare out at officialdom in whatever its form -- a building inspector, a Housing and Urban Development manager, a police officer -- and they don't believe that person," complained Reno in a 1993 speech to the Police Foundation. "They won't come out. They won't bring their child to the clinic ... because they are suspicious and unbelieving that government really cares."

That speech, incidentally, was given on April 9, 1993 -- just ten days before the government Reno served so eagerly displayed its "caring" nature by immolating the children of the Branch Davidian community.

Reno, according to a Los Angeles Times summary, urged that local governments assemble teams of "community-friendly, highly respected police officers, social workers, public health nurses, [and] community organizers" to pry open the doors of people burdened with a healthy mistrust of the congealed mass of corruption called government.



The group that carried out the abduction of Cheyenne Irish is a perfect example of a Reno-style "community policing" strike force in action.

Among the reasons cited for seizing Cheyenne was Scott Irish's refusal to attend a seminar taught by Dr. Scott Hampton, Director of an organization called http://endingtheviolence.us/consexuality.htm. Hampton and his organization offer "training and consultation ... to child protective workers, probation and parole officers, judges, attorneys, medical professionals, clergy, teachers, and law enforcement" as well as offering "expert witness testimony in both civil and criminal cases." Hampton has conducted hundreds of workshops and seminars throughout North America and Europe, and is past President of the National Supervised Visitation Network.

Most importantly, he is an unabashed proponent of totalitarian attitude reconstruction, the sort of social engineer C.S. Lewis referred to as an "official straightener." Although he eagerly cites the work of "tolerance" peddlers such as Morris Dees, Hampton believes that tolerance is inadequate. Unlike those who believe that only God has jurisdiction over the inner life of human beings, Hampton -- like others who would use the power of the State to tear windows into men's souls -- maintains that the government literally must reprogram the inner life of people who hold "bigoted" beliefs.

"Tolerance does not require that you give up your hatred. It just tells you how to act when you hate. Not good enough," sniffs Hampton in his new book Tolerant Oppression. "It is time that we teach people how not to hate." What this requires, of course, is court-ordered reconstruction of individual attitudes using whatever leverage may be necessary -- apparently up to and including child abduction.

The kidnapping of Cheyenne Irish on her birthday bears more than a passing resemblance to a November 2008 incident in Pascagoula, Mississippi. The newborn daughter of Cirila Baltazar Cruz, who was born at Pascagoula's Singing River Hospital, was abducted through deception and coercion by hospital officials and social workers. The child was placed in the custody of two attorneys who practiced "family law" before the same judge who approved the hasty transfer of custody.

Like Jonathan Irish, Baltazar Cruz was deemed an unsuitable parent on the basis of unproven allegations. An employee at a local Chinese restaurant, she had reportedly come to the United States as an illegal immigrant, and was accused of "trading sex for housing." Her immigration status would not justify the seizure of her child, and the prostitution charge was never investigated. Nevertheless, it took more than a year and a half for Baltazar Cruz -- working with a self-described "public interest law firm" -- to regain custody of her stolen child.

A federal lawsuit filed against the hospital and others responsible for this atrocity correctly condemns the "unconstitutional actions" of those who abducted Baltazar Cruz's child. Their unconscionable acts inflicted severe emotional and physical harm on the bereaved mother, alienated the newborn from parental affection, and "substantially interfered with [their] constitutionally protected right to family integrity," the lawsuit observes.

Exactly the same case can be made on behalf of Jonathan Irish, Stephanie Taylor, and their daughter Cheyenne. It's not likely, however, that the legal activist group that defended the parental rights of Cirila Baltazar Cruz -- the Southern Poverty Law Center -- will volunteer its services on behalf of Cheyenne and her parents, given that organization's distant but substantive role in the crime that was committed against them.

[yeti]

From this page:

Quote:UPDATE : 10/07/2010 10.53PM PST -- We [Oath Keepers] have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states, along with a long list of other assertions against both parents, that

Quote:The Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the Oath Keepers.

So there it is. This is going to get ugly folks...

[dicktater]

Jonathan Irish just popped in during AJ's moneybomb. Baby Cheyenne has been released into the custody of he and his fiancé Stephanie by New Hampshire CPS. News is limited due to a strange gag order imposed by the judge. However, no apology was given by any representative of CPS. No charges have been filed against the father nor does it seem that there will be. But if there is truly justice in America, a grand jury investigation into the policies and procedures of the New Hampshire CPS should be launched immediately.

[FastTadpole]

Thanks a lot guys. That one was confusing as a dodecahedron Rubix Cube. I agree on the "Real" Oath Keepers (All the anti-Jew rhetoric was waay over the top - I don't think there was any mention of Zionism either) now but I don't trust the leadership of any of them. Still could have very well been a ploy to incite civil unrest. If the MSM is ignoring it so people will feel it is suppressed -- but the alt media wing of the 4th branch .. Alex Jones, fake Tea Party leaders, maybe some Oath Keeper inside infiltrators / provocateurs et. al. will bang the war drums.

Real incident, False Flag pounce is how I see it to ratchet up tension / anger another notch. This event is imprinted and banked now. This does need some sort of MASSIVE CITIZEN INITIATED INDEPENDENT review for all CPS agencies -- it's the only good that can come of this. Don't demand or trust government to do it, they haven't earned that trust. Assemble a team and do it yourselves for yourselves America.

Very relieved and thankful that Baby Cheyenne is safe and (hopefully) relatively unharmed from the traumatic ordeal.

[dicktater]

News that's not in the news..... yet. And, as Yeti said on the 10th,

Quote:So there it is. This is going to get ugly folks...

Eight hours after Thursday's amazing turn of events, I'm still not able to find anything other than the limited information in one story in the local New Hampshire media and one from Fox News Boston (see below) of what was the catalyst on Wednesday October 13th that led to the favorable ruling during Thursday's court hearing to Irish and his fiancé Stephanie. This is due, in part, to a gag order issued by the judge in Thursday's ruling, which can only serve to protect New Hampshire CPS and definitely does not serve the interests of Jonathan Irish, his fiancé Stephanie, and their baby Cheyenne.

During AJ's show Wednesday, Jonathan Irish called in because he and Stephanie were unexpectedly being allowed visitation with their daughter but, only in the company of a CPS employee. During the call with AJ, things got a little weird with Jonathan having a minor altercation with some security guard and I think the call was ended. Shortly, Jonathan calls back in a panic. They had been led to a room accompanied by two Sheriff's deputies. He and Stephanie are in their truck following the two Sheriff's deputies who have the baby in their custody and followed by the CPS employee in route to another pediatrician. Jonathan relates to Alex what had happened and why the Sheriff's deputies had their baby.

According to Jonathan, soon after taking baby Cheyenne in her arms, Stephanie noticed a certain lethargy in her baby. She and Jonathan decided that perhaps a change of diaper was in order. After removing the diaper, they noticed blood in the baby's vaginal area and extreme sensitivity. They freaked. Supposedly, the CPS worker also freaked and said something to the effect of "We're screwed." Jonathan notified the deputies who took custody of the baby and were instructed to take her to another pediatrician for examination. Some time later, the baby was ordered returned to custody of CPS to be returned to the foster family. Reasonable suspicion that there had been a set up was discussed by Jonathan and AJ during the ride. Jonathan and Stephanie are crushed and now very worried about their court hearing on Thursday.

The above is my recollection of the events on Wednesday because I was listing to AJ's show live.

Due to the judges gag order on Thursday, things are very sketchy pass this point. Jonathan called in during AJ's moneybomb and could only give limited information that was augmented, in part, by Gary Franchi.

The court hearing Thursday October 14th was already scheduled. During the hearing, one thing that came out was that there was another Jonathon Irish in New Hampshire with child abuse issues and/or allegations. Many people showed up to support Jonathan and Stephanie, including Jonathan's father (rocky relationship there?), many family members, friends and neighbors, Gary Franchi, and somewhere between 60 and 80 Oathkeepers. Police were on hand to keep the peace and are said to have been extremely polite and even supportive. One police officer was an admitted Oathkeeper. At some point, the Oathkeepers held a "mass" reaffirmation of their oath in the parking lot and were supposed to have encouraged new Oathkeepers today. Though it had been said that Stewart Rhodes was also going to be there, I don't know for sure unless he was in the company of Gary Franchi.

Here are the only two stories I can find some eight hours after today's events:

Father Happy With Court's Decision Over Child Custody
Man Says Affiliation With Group 1 Reason Why Baby Taken

POSTED: 5:17 pm EDT October 14, 2010
http://www.wmur.com/r/25394494/detail.html

DOVER, N.H. -- An Epsom, N.H., father was overjoyed Thursday at a court's decision over the custody of his newborn daughter.

The state took custody of Jonathon Irish's baby shortly after she was born at Concord Hospital, citing neglect claims. The situation prompted protests outside Thursday's custody hearing in Dover.

Irish was smiling after he left the hearing Thursday and hooked up a car seat in his vehicle. A judge's gag order prevented him from saying exactly what happened.

"A picture's worth 1,000 words," Irish said. "What's a smile worth?"

The controversy over the case started last week, when the Department of Children, Youth and Families took Irish's daughter, Cheyenne, into custody 16 hours after she was born.

Irish and his girlfriend said the state cited abuse and neglect claims. But Irish said officials also took the baby because they were uneasy about his involvement in a group called the Oath Keepers, which claims to uphold the constitution.

The state said it doesn't take someone's political views into consideration when they get involved with a family.

But members of the Oath Keepers protested at the courthouse and said the state unfairly used their group's name as a reason to take custody of the child.

"People are worried that if they speak out or join some particular group that someday down the road, it could come back to haunt them or be used against them in a proceeding about their children," said Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers.

The baby's grandfather also showed up at the court to tell people he doesn't think Irish should get custody because he's not fit to be a good father.

Irish's mother showed up to defend her son and said her main concern is for the baby's well-being.

State officials aren't commenting on the case, especially because it involves a young child.


Baby girl taken after birth returned to parents
Updated: Thursday, 14 Oct 2010, 10:15 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 14 Oct 2010, 8:25 PM EDT
http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/loca...s-20101014

EPSOM, N.H. (FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - A baby girl from New Hampshire who was taken into state custody last week has been returned to her parents.

Twenty-four-year-old Jonathan Irish and his girlfriend, 22-year-old Stephanie Taylor, both of Epsom, N.H, were reunited with their daughter Cheyenne Thursday afternoon.

The New Hampshire Department of Children, Youth and families took the baby only hours after she had been born at Concord Hospital.

According to court documents, a social worker believed the baby was in "imminent danger" if left with Irish and Taylor.

Taylor has had two other children from another father removed from her care. According to an affidavit, Irish has a history of violence and anger issues.

The case drew national attention because the state linked Irish to a group called Oath Keepers. The state called the Oath Keepers a "militia group".

The Oath Keepers describe themselves as a non-violent, non-partisan association of people dedicated to supporting and defending the Constitution.

The Oath Keepers have petitioned the state to remove the reference from the court record.

[dicktater]

Here's an interesting thought regarding the gag order. Jonathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor are not married. I no reason to believe that they have even applied for a marriage license (begged for permission to do something which is already a Right). Therefore, there is no "contract" with the state (a marriage license creates a three-party contract between the couple and the state). And, since there is no "contract" to which the state is a party of interest, the state has no standing to use the courts to protect a claimed "interest" in what is normally a product(s) of a marriage ("contract"), which are children. Imagine the uproar if, in the absence of the gag order, this could be discerned from the court record and were made public?

UPDATE: Seized Baby Returned After “Oath Keepers” Newborn Taken To Hospital





Photos from the Concord Monitor (New Hampshire) web site:


Having returned from court, Jonathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor hold their child, Cheyenne, while friends celebrate the return of the child from state social workers. Earlier in the day, protestors from Oath Keepers, a self-described anti-totalitarian group, had protested outside the Rochester Family Division Court in Dover, NH. The group was protesting because they believed Cheyenne was taken as a result of Jonathan's affiliation with the group.


A group of protesters, many from from the self-described anti-totalitarian group, Oath Keepers, gather outside the Rochester Family Division Court in Dover, NH. The group, protesting state social workers who took the child of Jonathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor, said that the child was taken because of Jonathan's affiliation with the group.


David Freeman, the West Coast Vice President of Oath Keepers, inducts a protestors into the self-described anti-totalitarian group by having them recite an oath. The group, gathered outside the Rochester Family Division Court in Dover, NH, was protesting state social workers who took the child of Jonathan Irish and Stephanie Taylor because of, they believed, Jonathan's affiliation with the organization.

Baby snatched for dad's politics back with parents
Reunited! Newborn returned to family where father accused of being 'Oath Keeper'
Posted: October 14, 2010
By Bob Unruh
WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=215537

Johnathon Irish, fiancé and baby

A tiny baby girl snatched from her parents' custody a week ago when her father was accused of being an "Oath Keeper" was returned to her parents today.

According to WND sources close to the case, the accusations against the father, Johnathon Irish, whose fiancée, Stephanie Taylor, is the mother of Cheyenne, have been dropped.

WND originally reported on the case last weekend when the state took the baby, ordering the father to stand with his hands behind his back and frisking him while social workers took the child. The affidavit supporting the actions cited the father's affiliation with the patriotic organization Oath Keepers.

Irish, reached today by telephone by WND, said New Hampshire state law prevents disclosure of details of family court disputes. But the WND source confirmed that the little girl had been returned to the family and there were no future court dates scheduled in the case.

Officials with the state Family Court system could not be reached by WND.

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Just hours earlier a protest was held outside the court where the hearing was going on, and as WND reported, officials with Oath Keepers submitted a demand letter to the state's social services agency to remove the reference in the affidavit in the Irish case.

The organization collects affirmations from soldiers and peace officers that they would refuse orders that violate the U.S. Constitution in light of what they perceive as the advance of socialism in the U.S.

Irish had told WND that an affidavit signed by Child Protective Service worker Dana Bickford seeking government custody of newborn Cheyenne a week ago said the agency "became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the 'Oath Keepers.'"

While officials with Oath Keepers confirmed that there were other issues involved in the case, they were stunned to learn that the court ruling had described their organization as a militia and had referenced participation with them as an accusation.

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"This poorly conducted investigation used unsubstantiated and unsupported information regarding our organization. A journey to our website, and a reading of our bylaws, could have easily confirmed what we are and are not," said the Oath Keepers letter, delivered today to state officials.

"We are an association of currently serving and retired police, military, and emergency personnel. We are not a militia. Our goal is simply to educate all current service personnel on their obligations under the law and in particular our Constitution."

WND reported earlier when the dispute erupted, including when Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes wrote on his website that the citation of his organization sends a seriously troubling message.

Details of the resolution of the case were withheld behind the curtain of Family Court restrictions. But Rhodes described it as a "fundamental point" to have government agencies condemning defendants for their political affiliations.

"Talk about chilling speech! If this is allowed to continue, it will chill the speech of not just Mr. Irish, but all Oath Keepers and it will serve as the camel [nose] under the tent for other associations being considered too risky for parents to dare," he continued. "'Don't you dare associate with such and such group, or you could be on 'the list' and then child protective services might come take your kids.'"

While Oath Keepers is not a militia, he said, it would make no difference if it was.

"A parent associating with a militia is not engaged in child endangerment and is not evidence of child endangerment," he said.

Oath Keepers' members promise not to obey any order "to disarm the American people," conduct warrantless searches, "detain American citizens as 'unlawful enemy combatants,'" work to impose martial law, invade or subjugate any state, blockade American cities, put Americans in detention camps or "make war against our own people."

Rhodes himself was a U.S. Army paratrooper injured in an parachuting accident, a former firearms instructor and a former member of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul's Washington staff.

The organization's board of directors includes Army veteran Sgt. Dave Freeman, Army veteran Capt. Chauncey Normandin, Navy veteran Capt. Gregory Gooch, Celia S. Hyde of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, all retired.

Others are Marines, members of the Air Force, local law enforcement and even of the U.S. Army Special Forces.

The demand letter apparently was addressed by the court's action, although Rhodes said he'd been given no direct response to the concerns. It said, "As police officers, we have been called all manner of vile names by criminal suspects, but nothing compares to the offensive assertion that to associate with us and our military counterparts is child endangerment. We respectfully request that any reference to Oath Keepers be removed from your affidavit by whatever mechanism New Hampshire law allows or requires."

The letter continued, "On behalf of all of the active duty and retired police and sheriff personnel within our organization, as well as our military and firefighter brothers and sisters, we demand that you remove the offensive verbiage in the affidavit filed by your investigator, Dana Bickford, which states, 'the Division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the 'Oath Keepers …''

"By so listing the political associations of a parent as a reason to take a newborn baby from her mother's arms, the affidavit politicizes child protective services. That politicization was unfortunately furthered by the judge in this case who adopted Bickford’s entire affidavit as the Court's 'findings of fact' setting forth the reasons for issuing the order to take the baby."

The letter explains Oath Keepers members "have seen first-hand the heart-rending abuse that children can suffer at the hands of dysfunctional adults. It is to prevent such abuse that child protective services is given great latitude and power. Politics has no place in this process precisely because of the immense power you wield. All that should matter is the welfare of the children, not the politics of the parents. Such politicization not only hurts the families and children involved, but also chills the speech of other parents who now will worry that their political affiliations will be used as grounds for taking their children."

It was signed by Capt. Chauncey Normandin, retired, from the Lowell, Mass., police department; Sgt. David Freeman, retired, from the Las Vegas police department; Chief Celia S. Hyde, retired, of the Bolton, Mass., police department; retired Graham County, Ariz., Sheriff Richard Mack; and almost half a dozen actively serving law enforcement officers in Texas, Pennsylvania, Utah and others.

According to the original court documents, copies of which were posted by Oath Keepers, "Mr. Irish was court ordered to attend Ending the Violence with Scott Hampton, however, to date, has not completed this program." The court affidavit continued, "The Epsom Police Department stated they were very familiar with Mr. Irish, as they have responded to multiple calls, which involved Mr. Irish and firearms, one of which resulted in a pending charge for possession of a concealed weapon without a permit.

"The division became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the 'Oath Keepers,' and had purchase several different types of weapons including a rifle, handgun and taser," the court documents said.


Baby returned to Epsom couple
By Ray Duckler
Created 10/15/2010 - 00:00
Rochester
Baby returned to Epsom couple
By Ray Duckler
Created 10/15/2010 - 00:00
Rochester
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/22...som-couple

The Epsom couple forced to turn their newborn over to foster care last week, prompting a group formed to defend the U.S. Constitution to throw its muscle behind the young parents, were reunited with the infant yesterday after a hearing by a judge at Rochester Family Division Court.

Johnathon Irish, 24, and Stephanie Taylor, 22, were handed 8-day-old Cheyenne in a McDonald's parking lot in Rochester by the baby's grandmother, Nancy Haskell of Northwood.

Haskell had been given Cheyenne, wrapped in a blanket and wearing a pink bonnet, minutes earlier in the Rochester Police Department parking lot by an official from the New Hampshire Division for Children, Youth and Families.

The family declined comment, citing a gag order by the judge. No details from the hearing were made public.

But shortly after they walked out of court following the 1½-hour hearing, Haskell, Irish's mother and owner of the Saddleback Campground in Northwood, said, "This restores my faith in the justice system. I'm ecstatic."

The battle between the state and the couple had more twists and turns than the old streets that wind through downtown Rochester, culminating yesterday with shouting matches in front of dozens of onlookers.

The drama began at the courthouse in Dover, where members of the Oath Keepers, a group that pledges to oppose government tyranny, held signs in protest of DCYF's decision to take Cheyenne away from her parents.

According to an affidavit, a judge determined in 2009 that evidence pointed to Irish as "the main suspect" in an assault of his fiancee's oldest son, now 3. Taylor also has a 2-year-old son and is still married to the boys' father. The children were subsequently placed in a foster home in Farmington, Irish said.

That judge's ruling led DCYF to seize Cheyenne last week, hours after her birth.

The affidavit also mentioned Irish's association with the Oath Keepers, setting off a chain reaction that reached its zenith yesterday. After a week of nationwide chatter in the online libertarian community, Oath Keepers from several New England states, group founder Stewart Rhodes and people unaffiliated with the group stood outside the courthouse during the hearing.

Some were upset the Oath Keepers had been called a militia, which members said is not true. Others, including Chauncey Normandin of Massachusetts, protested what they saw as unfair government intervention.

"We're here because the investigator used (Irish's) affiliation with Oath Keepers as one of the reasons in the affidavit for taking custody of that baby," said Normandin, East Coast vice president of the Oath Keepers and a retired police officer. "There's no reason his political affiliation should have anything to do with his ability to take care of a child. That's offensive to us."

Meanwhile, Garrett Lear of Wakefield, the national chaplain of the Oath Keepers, complained that Irish misrepresented himself, falsely leading people to believe he was a member of the group.

"He unfairly aligned himself with our organization," said Lear, a cross on the front of his baseball cap.

Tensions rose when Johnathon Irish's father, John Irish, told a reporter within earshot of Johnathon Irish that his son had spent a portion of his childhood in facilities for juveniles and had gotten in trouble with the law. He added that Johnathon Irish deserved to be scrutinized by the state.

"DCYF was acting properly to protect that child," said John Irish, who said he's been estranged from his son for at least five years. "There were two other children who were also taken from their home."

Johnathon Irish, his eyes hidden behind sunglasses, then approached his father, standing inches from his face.

"You were nothing. You were worthless," Johnathon Irish said, trying to control his temper.

Later, Johnathon Irish and Haskell pulled documents from a folder showing that John Irish pleaded guilty in 1999 to misdemeanor counts of violation of a protective order and simple assault. John Irish acknowledged he had pleaded guilty to those charges.

Later, in full view of TV cameras, sheriff's deputies and the crowd of about 50 protesters, another shouting match broke out, this one between John Irish and Doug Millar, who said he was a private investigator from Santa Rosa, Calif., working for Johnathon Irish and Taylor.

Taylor and Irish said they are still fighting to regain custody of the two boys.

Meanwhile, the couple will begin raising their daughter. They sat in McDonald's eating burgers and fries while waiting for 4 p.m., the time Haskell was due to pick Cheyenne up at the police department.

Haskell and her friend, Roscoe Whitney, drove to the station and entered right on time, followed minutes later by a case worker cradling Cheyenne, who was wrapped in a blanket.

Haskell then walked down the front stairs and strapped Cheyenne into a car seat in the back of Whitney's car.

"My beautiful baby," Haskell said. "Her parents held her a week ago, but Mommy and Daddy will have her in their arms soon."

At McDonald's, Irish and Taylor were reunited with Cheyenne, hugging and kissing her. Two vehicles then carried the entourage out of the lot, headed for a family celebration at Saddleback Campground.

CORRECTION: The orginial version of this story misstated the substance of the judge's 2009 ruling.

(Ray Duckler can be reached at 369-3304 or rduckler@cmonitor.com [3].)


The story below was published BEFORE the court hearing where custody of baby Cheyenne was returned to Irish and Taylor.

This article failed to mention that all accusations made against Mr. Irish have been dropped.

Baby in foster care sent to hospital
Maddie Hanna
Concord Monitor
Oct 14, 2010
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/22...o-hospital

The newborn taken from an Epsom couple last week by state social workers was sent to the hospital yesterday but is fine, officials said last night.

Parents Johnathon Irish and Stephanie Taylor had a supervised visit with their daughter and a state social worker yesterday at a Strafford County administration building and during the visit "there was some concern about the possibility of some blood that was seen in a diaper," said Capt. Joseph DiGregorio of the Strafford County Sheriff's Office.

As a "precautionary measure," DiGregorio said, the sheriff's office decided to have the baby examined at Exeter Hospital.

But there was "no indication of any abuse," he said. "Zero. Nothing." The baby was back in foster care last night, DiGregorio said.

The state cited concerns over a history of domestic violence between Irish and Taylor to support its seizure of the baby. Court documents also mention Irish's affiliation with anti-totalitarian group the Oath Keepers. Several websites and blogs reported yesterday that the child, "Baby Cheyenne," had been taken to the hospital to be treated for sexual abuse, generating outrage among the couple's supporters.

But "the baby is absolutely fine," said Maggie Bishop, the director of the state Division for Children, Youth, and Families. "The baby is healthy, safe, and absolutely fine."