Fuck The Pope

[TriWooOx]

[icosaface]

I think the pope needs to be vaccinated to protect his health. He is so precious to me that I think he should get all the vaccines that we have at once so that no illness will assail him.

[FastTadpole]

There is a lot of contention as to whether Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) was a Nazi. In 1936, his father, Joseph Ratzinger, Sr., became a member of the Ordnungspolizei after all the police forces of Nazi Germany were absorbed into the SS. In 1941 Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth by the German State.

There is no way to know the true intentions of these individuals or to even know if the facts are right.


As far as Charlie calling everyone involved in any religion Satan worshippers he's right in the fact that they are worshipping a false idol but in calling them all Satanic is a bit of a broad stroke, good and bad in all denominations for each individual. Maybe naive in some cases would have been a better fit.

Church is whenever two or more get together, take in and live the human experience. A traditional church can be just that granted the song and hymn is spontaneous and it is a real experience. Droning prayer, watching the clock and twiddling thumbs in pews does not constitute Church IMO. Traditional churches were and are some still a vehicle for organizing community efforts and activism. Unfortunately since the law on church donations and investment earning being non taxable is contingent on them refraining from political opinionation and having priests adhering to orders from government to push certain agendas using priests as their puppets.

addendum: http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?t...#pid199216

[Genteel]

Tri,

A very incredible THANK YOU for this! Absolutely priceless, I laughed albeit it is not funny. I really like Charlie Vietch. He is a real wonderful guy. I love what he does. He has such clear-headedness and honesty that totally puts We Are Change to shame.

GREAT POST!

Oh, by the way, FUCK THE POPE!

[TriWooOx]

Think I might have to take megaphone and camera to london tomorrow now... "GO HOME AND LEAVE ARE KIDS ALONE"

[FastTadpole]

I can't whole heartedly say fuck'em on this one, just the way he is framed and reported on, but I can say Fuck Me for participating in the rituals as a child for denying myself real experience and living it through rosary beads and praising idols. In spite of this it wasn't all I bad It presented me the opportunity to have have I choice to access what remained from the chronicles fact and fiction of what comprised the bible. At 8 years old I took it upon myself and I chose to read the bible front to back and was presented the opportunity to pore over the construed text rife with fallacy and fable and saw it clearly for what it was, without heaped on projections, through the eyes and heart of a curious child.

The myth was entertaining, the parables served as an example of how to live - in a take it or leave it manner - on a case by case basis and the divine love shone through. There were parts where it seemed symbolically hiding something (Genesis) a ridiculous fairly tale (Noah's Arc) and others that taught justice (Parable of the talents, Lazuerus). By the way I skipped Psalms as it was evident heaped on praise for a boring poet who couldn't rhyme any better than a half bent Jon Belushi. I only skimmed through Mark, Luke and John since they seemed like reruns of Matthew. I also skipped Revelations since it was such a dark contrast to the one they named Jesus, a truly admirable virtuous role model.

If the Pope, I'm in no place to judge, I don't know the guy .. but if he is even 10% as bad as he's made out to be, and I know he is since he was defending and downplaying the pedo crimes of his colleagues (threatened or otherwise that shows a lack of integrity in his position), I wouldn't let my kids anywhere near the guy.

   

But hey the Pope ain't Jesus (or whomever he was) he's a great idea. Neither is the Church. Like I said he's a puppet, a rubber stamp and a figure head. Peter Hans Klovenbach (Jesuit "Black Pope") is at least a couple notches up on Ratzinger. The guys lurking in the shadows that you can't put a name to are the ones

But it's not about him or the church or the monetary system it's about us letting the church and government and economic system and corporations do things under our watch like invading lands economically and militarily. The hippies took a shot at it but got distracted with a few bags of green, a couple of tabs and a sexual revolution - then ended up with a civil rights movement that ended up giving the US (and later Canada) limited positive rights that could be revoked instead of unlimited freedom with explicit exceptions. Something MLK (and Trudeau) fooled a lot of into believing was a good thing, still to this day.

   

It's not only religion that we prop up as gods in our CULTure. Worship constitutes changes your core values to be moulded around emulating something outside of your self to feed your ego to emulate and project a vision of something that fits your mind as something admirable that you can wear as your persona.

It's could be celebrity, a principle, a guru, politician, ideology, science, your parents, aliens, your cat, a car, your body, a culture, a race, a sports team, a drug, super powers or any combination of all or the above. Respect, teaching, nurturing and encouragement differs in that you are not heaping on adoration. Adoration is a form of mind control, emotions are a distraction from the true goal.

The key from what I have gathered is a combination of not attacking outside forces, not allowing fake gods, trying to detach from your ego self, not being anti-Christ, it's basically about owning your own attitude and connecting with Spirit through your true inner self everything else could very well be distraction. Don't pawn off your freedom in thought and body to the external.

The bible is supplemental. Individuality is the opposite of the one world order collective. Our purpose is to explore our inner fractal to understand it's reflection onto reality.

God Eternal the Spirit Within

Know Thyself

I Am

There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream we're the infinite imagination of ourselves.

Prepare yourself for the answers, cleanse yourself, reach out for the Mind, speak (within-"without") that you are ready, live strictly according to the answers.

You only need yourself and the Divine, no intervention by others in bodies....again, no intervention by anybody.

Temperance: conscious form of restraint based on self-knowing to achieve inner order of the Soul.

The body forces you to experience empathy, hate, remorse and all other emotions, together with desires and passions, to confuse you, make you forget yourself, become a dumbed-down version of yourself. The more you let them be your masters, the stronger you will chain yourself to this world, which is contrary to your duty, yet do not loath them, respect.

Your duty towards the One and yourself still stays the same, no matter what happens.

The real Christ should get all the praise, it is crucial.

There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by 1 work on yourself.

Even if my dream of all these things is an illusion, I would rather have my dream than your reality.

There is no remedy it is a process of understanding. Where there is fear and discomfort you are likely on the right path.

Truth will only reach you if you become profoundly aware of what is not truth.

Evil is based in duplicity making you think it is one thing when it is in fact another.

Evil exists because of the ignorance of the good.

If we can teach our children the ability to discern truth by themselves and ask questions to get to truth we can rid the world of evil in a single generation.

Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose.

There is no enemy you can attack except yourself. If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail.


It's not how you prepare so much as how your personal attitude. Chaos is an opportunity and should be utilized. The key is to preserve your individuality the opposite of that is the collective which will be offered with all of the ...bells and whistles. The price of admission is our hearts, minds and soul. They are happy in China unless the choose to be individuals.

China is the foreshadowing and the model. Don't bow down to false gods no matter how much candy they offer or how much guilt and other emotional attacks the collective is dealing at you. This long planned attack on christianity and all other religions is to unfreeze the old level and do away with it in it's entirety. It is to cause chaos, present that opportunity to fill the disruptive individuals with programming and introduce a new religion and religion can have many forms in state in material goods, power, knowledge even fake freedom.

This has been evidenced in the popular book the Shock Doctrine. Entrench the self and hang on tight in your attitude. No one can tell you who you are.

We can stop the anti-Christ as individuals but we first have to determine what Christ really is by knowing and being yourself, not a rationalized self but not by attacking outside but experiencing within and individually expressing and maintaining that connection in the face of chaos, emotion and ego. Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible.

This ain't new age or christian, it's a perspective on a path that can be discerned for each of us. Right or wrong, take it or leave it. I'm working on it too, writing it out like this is simply part of a process but I am personally confident it's right for me. How that translates to your experience is up to you.

"You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order - order out of chaos. But we will."
~ George W. Bush [July 6, 1946 - ], Washington, D.C., April 13, 2003

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose.... The social experiment in China under the Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."
~ David Rockefeller, 1973

The parasites want to incorporate their thinking into your thinking and bring you down into the muck with them.

Own your reality.