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Universal Voter Registration
01-08-2010, 11:57 AM
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Universal Voter Registration
I heard this mentioned briefly a few days ago and have not really been able to find anymore out about it except what is posted below. If anyone else has any other info on this please add it. I would like to know more - maybe others would as well that live in the US.

What the Dems Know: Universal Voter Registration
By James Simpson
January 06, 2010

Many are puzzled that Democrats persist in ramming unpopular and destructive legislation down our collective throats with no apparent concern for their plummeting poll numbers. A widespread belief is that the Democrats are committing political suicide and will be swept from one or both houses of Congress with unprecedented electoral losses next November. But since Democrat politicians rarely do things that will not ultimately benefit themselves, this column asked two weeks ago, "What do they know that we don't?"

We may have found out. It's called universal voter registration. The Wall Street Journal's John Fund described the Democrat plan recently at a David Horowitz Freedom Center forum.

Fund describes the proposal as follows:

In January, Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank will propose universal voter registration. What is universal voter registration? It means all of the state laws on elections will be overridden by a federal mandate. The feds will tell the states: 'take everyone on every list of welfare that you have, take everyone on every list of unemployed you have, take everyone on every list of property owners, take everyone on every list of driver's license holders and register them to vote regardless of whether they want to be ...'

Fund anticipates that Congress will attempt to ram this legislation through, as with the health care bill. What a surprise! Fund covers the vote issue at greater length in his book, How the Obama Administration Threatens to Undermine Our Elections.

Leftist groups are already arguing that universal voter registration will solve all the problems with our voting system. But the left created most of these problems. The radical leftist Nation Magazine, for example, absolutely loves the idea of universal voter registration. This is the same magazine, however, that advanced Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven's Manufactured Crisis strategy. The Cloward/Piven strategy was designed to undermine government institutions by overwhelming them with impossible demands for services. Cloward and Piven focused on welfare, housing, and voting as the main targets of this strategy, and the radical group ACORN was specifically created for the purpose of executing it.

The Nation article enthusiastically lists Cloward/Piven-inspired organizations like Project Vote, the ACORN group where President Obama cut his teeth. It also discusses the left's efforts to push enforcement of the Motor Voter law and explains how universal voter registration could assist in these efforts. Cloward and Piven were the ones who crafted Motor Voter legislation in the early 1980s and pushed for its enactment until 1993, when President Clinton signed it into law.

Cloward and Piven considered Motor Voter to be their crowning, lifetime achievement.

The left has predictably launched vicious smear attacks against John Fund for bringing universal voter registration to our attention. A Google search of the issue brings up any number of nasty ad hominem attacks. Most notable is Media Matters, the leftist group whose sole purpose seems to be to smear Republicans and defend the left's indefensible policies. They put up this gem: "Right-Wing Ass Weasel John Fund Doesn't Like Universal Voter Registration because of ACORN."

The problems with universal voter registration are numerous and obvious. Many states' lists include vast numbers of illegals, including some states which allow illegals to obtain drivers licenses; because many homeowners have more than one home, there will be duplicates; because so many people are on so many separate federal and state government agency lists, there will be duplicates; and because so many lists exist with little or no cross-checking capability, all of these duplicates are likely to go uncorrected. Add to this the fact that Dems hope to extend voting rights to felons, and the whole thing begins to look like a nationwide Democrat voter registration drive facilitated by taxpayers.

Universal voter registration will create massive vulnerabilities to systemic voter fraud nationwide, and if Democrats have proven anything in recent years, it is that they can win elections that way. The George-Soros-funded Secretary of State project (SOS) was designed to take advantage of such vulnerabilities and may have been developed in anticipation of the universal voter registration plan. Al Franken's stolen election in Minnesota was a trial run for the SOS project. Longtime ACORN friend Mark Ritchie was elected Minnesota Secretary of State in 2006 with Soros's SOS and ACORN money, and what followed in Norm Coleman's Senate runoff election was a frightening demonstration of just how far Democrats will go to win. Franken won the runoff, and the Democrats got their filibuster-proof sixty-vote Senate majority.

The Motor Voter law was correctly identified as a facilitator of vote fraud. One of the few legal issues Barack Obama actually participated in as a lawyer was a 1995 suit against the State of Illinois, which he brought on behalf of ACORN. Then-Republican Governor Jim Edgars saw the newly passed Motor Voter act as creating the potential for massive vote fraud and refused to implement it. With the assistance of the Clinton Justice Department, Obama's legal team won that suit. Obama himself actually participated very little, a strategy that seems to have served him well in life. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, after identifying himself in court proceedings, Obama sat back and let "the heavy-hitters at the Justice Department make the arguments."

It is not surprising that the Democrats are now choosing to push this new initiative, for universal voter registration will be Motor Voter on turbochargers. And who better to sign it into law than the president from ACORN?

Link: http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/w...sal_v.html

There is also a video embedded on the page that shows the talk he gives at the forum.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken




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01-08-2010, 02:38 PM
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RE: Universal Voter Registration
here's the ballot box

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?t...#pid181515
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01-08-2010, 10:34 PM
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RE: Universal Voter Registration
well, it wouldn't surprise me, as this congress likes to mandate shit... like buying health insurance... and stats clearly show that most people will vote dem, even if they suck. (not that the GOP is any better, mind you.)
That's what the whole ACORN flap was all about. They were really good at registering LOTS of people, and republicans like smaller voting roles, because the less people show to vote, the more likely that their staunch base will end up in the majority. In the coverage of this news I've read since reading this post, there's more and more outrage at ACORN, particularly because they sued over the passage of the de-fund ACORN act and won...

now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a particular fan of ACORN, mostly because I think registration is a personal choice, and paying people to solicit registration reeks of acceptance of the fascism perpetrated by both parties, but the "de-fund ACORN act" was a glaringly unconstitutional bill of attainder... the fact that it passed in the first place means that both houses of congress either haven't read the constitution, or just don't give a shit what it says.

my guess is more likely the latter.

there is a video of Fund addressing the group, and its here, but he works for the WSJ, and it's a Murdoch outlet, which means that he's probably taken the real facts of the issue and twisted them into propagandized talking points...
before I take issue with this, I'll read the actual bill, rather than listen to some overtly partisan rhetoric.

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01-11-2010, 12:44 PM
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I am left with the feeling after the last two months or so that things are moving so fast that we don't know about half of what they are putting through. If it hits the MSM the first thing I think is what is really happening? What they are showing us is nothing compared to what is really being done behind the scenes.

I think what has come down is that choice is gone. We just don't know it yet. Barry is nothing more than the fast talking city slicker that gets over on the poor ignorant masses that can't seem to get out of their own way. But he's in now and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Bottom line - it's Chicago style politics come to DC. The campaign slogan should have been "Change - you better believe it". Someone made the remark on air this past week that regarding the forced universal voter registration that Illinois more or less already has it and you wouldn't believe the deceased that turn out to the polls on voting day. This has always been the case not only in Illinois but anywhere that voting is taking place. If everyone stayed home on voting day and watched the news they would see tapes of people flocking to the polls to vote. The media would make it look like everyone was voting when they really weren't but you couldn't tell from the media coverage. And still the elections would go off without a hitch. That's how bad it really is. So Universal voting? It's really already in place, the only difference is that they are throwing you in jail for not casting your "vote".

A side note: I am starting to think that with all the threats of "If you don't buy insurance you will be jailed" or "If you don't cast your vote you will be jailed" is it's nothing more than filling up the jails in order to get the bodies for the military to fight the wars in countries where they are doing their best pillaging. After all, once you are in jail you really can't do anything at all. If they want you for whatever they want you for you pretty much are at their disposal. No draft problem here, just slam them in jail.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken




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01-11-2010, 09:06 PM (This post was last modified: 01-11-2010 09:08 PM by h3rm35.)
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RE: Universal Voter Registration
Quote:Someone made the remark on air this past week that regarding the forced universal voter registration that Illinois more or less already has it and you wouldn't believe the deceased that turn out to the polls on voting day.

any idea who said this, or on what show this happened? Did they cite the evidence they used to make that claim?

Quote:the only difference is that they are throwing you in jail for not casting your "vote".
Ok, for that one, I'm definitely going to need a source, or the bill # that suggests this - the health care mandate doesn't even put you in jail, you just have an annual fine for not purchasing insurance.

and this whole thing is kind of strange, because fund says that schumer and frank are going to propose the legislation. Frank's the head of the finance committee, so it's not even in his realm of responsibility to introduce such legislation. Then there's the troublesome fact that frank's a rep and schumer's a senator - they can't be co-sponsors, they're in different houses of congress - therefore they'd be different bills, and I have yet to find one modicum of evidence that this is being suggested. I'm not saying that its not, I'm just HIGHLY skeptical. Why would democrats try to force people who would more naturally vote for dems to get angry about being forced and more likely vote for someone else in that circumstance? it just doesn't make any sense! It's possible that Fund, who works for a paper that caters predominantly to the financial elite and is run by rupert murdoch and roger ailes, doesn't particularly like Schumer or Frank, as they've been very vocal about reigning in the big banks and wall st.

Quote:If they want you for whatever they want you for you pretty much are at their disposal. No draft problem here, just slam them in jail

one of the reasons we changed from a draft to volunteer military, other than the horrible sentiment behind the viet nam war, was the fact that in an all volunteer military, you choose to sign your life and freedoms over to the government. At that point you have no right to complain about them testing on you or putting you in dangerous situations. I can see an eventuality where there would be a credit for time served in the military coming off your prison sentence, I couldn't imagine a situation where they'd simply conscript inmates, at least in the current political climate... Once martial law is established, anything goes. But for now, just using debt leverage on the average citizen would probably enlist plenty of new recruits - as the economy worsens, the government will create debt amnesty for short military terms, say one year in a combat zone or two behind a desk. Once the papers are signed, you will be voluntary, and therefor legally allowed to be re-assigned to combat duty, stop-lossed, tested on, or have your initial contract forcefully renegotiated. This can all happen whitewashed by the media as a wonderful new government program, and will slip quietly into public consciousness, on an increasingly larger and larger scale. Once a majority of the population has the realization that the only way out of debt for them will be to join the military, the NWO will have a perfect public mindset to begin their total over-all control in this country. Neither judges nor aware citizens would stand for stealing prisoners out of their cell and placing them on the front lines, at least for now. Maybe in the not so distant future, but the public mindset must be one of outright despair and hoplessness before that happens. These are not stupid people. They've been waiting for a loooong time to take over this country, and they're nothing if not patient enough for the time to be exactly right. they'd prefer the slow-kill so as not to ruffle feathers.

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