Inappropriate Music Promoted To Children?

[staceysugar]

If you have seen the path that Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera have taken since working for Disney, it wouldn't surprise me if Miley Cyrus goes the same route.

[humbug]

Okok, now I feel even more misunderstood, drumcircles ???
Where did I ever mention "East vs. West", a very slippery path to be on.
More a DIY kind of guy, de-globalize music, bring it back to a community level!

To me the tuning issue is more about using ones ears than math (be it based on the squareroot 2, or the golden squareroot of 5) , which automatically returns the "natural" to music. Containing infinity in a closed 12 note loop cycle isn't good enough, so please forgive the misanthropy on my behalf, really do not know how to express it in a better fashion. I just urge all of you, especially musicians (we are in the same boat) to take this info to heart and apply or study it the best you can. The historical evidence should be enough to prove without a doubt that our masonic "divide and rule" circle of fifths was purposely put out there to be a bad influence and slowly destroy our natural hearing faculties by TPTB. For me too this was a very rude awakening, although I have been delaing with it for a long time now.

I admit this is a really tricky topic, love it nonetheless.

Back to mTVgaga, gives me the creeps and have the uncanny feeling this is part of some greater sick public initiation ritual, the GESAMTKUNSTWERK (anybody know the english equivalent?) of doom. Just as 9-11 and all of it seems to be some sort of artsy sacrifice when one checks out the symbolism, timing, numerology, just send shivers up my spine (not the good type).

Apart from all the bling and materialism, the sexual propaganda, poke her face etc., seems to be promoting sexual violence toward women, which although is nothing new, is getting really annoying. Of course kids will be influenced negatively when they sing along to something they cannot yet comprehend. Am slowly getting to the age where I am considering having kids of my own, love children, but recently I have been more and more worried about what I would do if I had kids. How to protect them from this? Sending them to school won't help (the other kids parents!,spooky), patronizing won't help and telling them what and what not to do, especially in puberty, will cause the exact opposite of the desired outcome.... I just see from my upbringing how messed up one can get, guess I was lucky enough to have some really bad things happen to me, that finally woke me up, the irony of suffering.

I wish all the families to be the strongest unit one can possibly imagine.

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i would have thought the answer was simple - don't have a television.

just the effects on brain wave patterns alone nevermind the programming

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maybe a translation would be "the great work"?

I am scared of how it is going to be as a single parent here in post communist ost germany in the years to come. Very much so.

In the next weeks the doctor is told no way jose about mmr shot, so no doubt it'll be noted.

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I figure any children of mine will raise up thinking it the most normal thing in the world to be aware that the mind gunk out there from corpville cashritual is pathetically going to try and program them.

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Honestly this is bothering me a bit... so let me carry on a bit please

Quote:That's a fascist view of music along with all of the other assumptions you make of me. Wink

Missed that nasty one before. My answer, you take things way too personal and therefore you affirm the assumptions you think I had of you. Strange pride nonsense. But enough already, I was just contributing to your forum in the only topic I believe I have any firm ground on. Anything else is way beyond me. I am sure you do well at whatever you do, since your bedini work is most awesome.
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Now,
to straighten up some terms I have been carelessly abusing, I am referring to equal temperament when talking about "western" music, discovered by India and China way before the Greeks, but they discarded it for obvious reasons.
typical "western" weird stuff is:
synthetic medicine, synthetic food, synthetic clothing, synthetic cosmetics, synthetic music... I prefer organic, simple as that, "organic biodegradable fascism" if you insist

Also "western" robot military rythm tends to suck, not all of it, there has been some fine stuff coming out of jazz, prog and expressionism in classical music to give a few examples, syncopate
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NO TV, , does anybody here still have one? I stopped watching television after I smoked my first bong back when I was 16. Suddenly I had the feeling of seeing right through it and started to feel really embarassed! The day TV died for me.

Kyle, if not being way too private, would like to hear more of your parenting experience, that would be so cool.

[Easy Skanking]

(12-11-2009 12:14 AM)zerror Wrote:  Missed that nasty one before. My answer, you take things way too personal and therefore you affirm the assumptions you think I had of you. Strange pride nonsense. But enough already, I was just contributing to your forum in the only topic I believe I have any firm ground on. Anything else is way beyond me. I am sure you do well at whatever you do, since your bedini work is most awesome.
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Now,
to straighten up some terms I have been carelessly abusing, I am referring to equal temperament when talking about "western" music, discovered by India and China way before the Greeks, but they discarded it for obvious reasons.
typical "western" weird stuff is:
synthetic medicine, synthetic food, synthetic clothing, synthetic cosmetics, synthetic music... I prefer organic, simple as that, "organic biodegradable fascism" if you insist

Also "western" robot military rythm tends to suck, not all of it, there has been some fine stuff coming out of jazz, prog and expressionism in classical music to give a few examples, syncopate
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Everything is personal when you are a person.

Maybe you don't hold the usual view that comes along with the "conspiracy" argument against equal temperament and took the brunt of my annoyance at that school of thought unfairly. I am a passionate artistic type, so don't take my enthusiasm as an attack on you. No slights intended on my part.
That argument consists of Eastern tonality = natural, the only correct music, divine, etc. and Western equal temperament = Masonic, unnatural, Satanic, etc.

My argument is that both kinds of tuning and scale construction, in addition to all of the other varied tunings, scales, and musical theory on this planet, are all just tools that we have created in order to express ourselves. Just like any tool, it is up to the user as to how it is used and the tool itself is neutral. There is just as much brainwashing with Chinese communists using their traditional "organic" tunings and scale constructions for their own agendas as there is using Western tunings to sell corporate messages. I like to use this saying: "It's a poor musician that blames his instrument for his mistakes." I find it to be such a cop out when the instruments and tools are given a bad rap for how they are used, be it music, psychology, science or even weapons.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
Music doesn't brainwash people. People brainwash people.

[triplesix]

I have been finding some odd conspiracies related to Hello Kitty and various pop musicians who get photographed with them.

Most peculiar of recent note is the Lady Gaga photo-shoot shot inside a masonic lodge in which her eyes are closed, yet painted, therefore throughout the entire thing she is shot with eyes wide shut.

Really though there are tons of heavily symbolic Lady Gaga photos.

It is all very odd.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/art...shoot.html
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnothe...98119.html
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

[FastTadpole]

KRS-1's take on the majority of mainstream music today: lack of authenticity and modeling roles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFTYq3Z1P6w

tru dat

[humbug]

Thanks Easy, still missing the point though, it's more about harmonic resonance.
Maybe this the misunderstanding.... I am not at all talking about man made tools or scales, more fundamental issues for example on how "bad tuning" makes plants sick and "natural" harmonies makes them more able to absord nutrients etc.
This has nothing to do with cop out (that was another slick & subtle one on your behalf) or propanganda as you falsely state. "Chinese tuning", which really isn't chinese tuning in the first place was there long before the communists, lol at that one, stubborn fellow. Although I admit the terms are really hard to get right. Again this has nothing to do with polarizing, east/west, good/evil, since I myself am not into that kind of black and white thinking. You can do a lot of damage with natural harmony if in the wrong hands.... earthquakes, also you can do a lot of good.

we could go on forever like this.

Tell you what, when I have some more time, I'll start a thread, that'll be more positive for both of us and hopefully others, since we are maybe going into a direction sweet stacey wasn't heading for
We could go into this a bit more, especially in relation to "free energy", as you probably know better than others, will never work as a closed loop system unless you wanna "kill that dipole" as the beardman said.

[Easy Skanking]

I think we are closer that either of us think in viewpoint and it would take a longer thread for us to finally throw enough words at it to see that. DO start a thread with more in depth as to how you see things.

One thing was that I was speaking of was Chinese traditional scales being hi-jacked by their Communist gov. Music has been around a lot longer than any artificial societal groups.

[FastTadpole]

Popular series on YouTube that is a parody of a children's card game marketing cartoon series. This does a Gaga spoof on True Romance.





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[FlushSentry]

Well, while there may indeed be a conscious move to promote the music to 'our' children, I think it is ultimately the responsibility of 'all of us' to ensure our kids are being exposed to appropriate messages.

If someone is letting the television become the 'babysitter' the problem is (IMO) that adults are passively (or possibly not so passively) endorsing the programming (great word, aye) shown, to their children.

Children are greatly influenced by the elders of their group. The children are then exposed to the music by their adult parents and relatives, thereby giving further endorsement.

Ultimately, their peers listen to the music as well and psychology has shown (and more important, common sense shown) that people desire to 'belong' to their peers.

This creates a dangerous platform for media to exploit.

There are my 2 centavos anyhow.



-FS

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(12-09-2009 06:00 AM)FastTadpole Wrote:  Just spend as much time with your children as possible especially during the impressionable years - they learn from example, set a good one.

Good advice!