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pizzaman777 · 09-05-2006, 05:22 AM

Don't know if this is the right place to post this but my cousin is in the NYPD and he told me that in the very near future the government is going to require that you need a passport to travel between US states. Just wanted to know if anyone else heard about this?

High_Treason · 09-05-2006, 07:45 AM

never heard of that but if its true then i doubt people will accept it, especially that a lot of people don't have any passports

harflimon · 09-08-2006, 04:39 AM

I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of people that live in one state and work in another state. Think of cities like St. Louis. What are they going to do make everyone have a passport to travel between the east and west side? Most of these cities have border that are completely meshed together beyond anything Big Brother could do to seperate. More likely they will just make a National ID, like the Real ID Act coming into effect in 2008.

Chopstics · 09-10-2006, 06:19 PM

In the movie www.freedomtofacsism.com there they say that in 2008 all americans should accept the national ID card, and that it will be some kind of checkpoints where u ll need to show ID like fingerprints etc. to pass.. so i think its true.. watch the movie!

Conspiracy Dave · 09-10-2006, 06:55 PM

They won't call them passports. They'll call em like State Check or something stupid so people will think they aren't passports.

People have absolutly no spine so I guess we'll accept them.
Hope not though

Danis · 09-10-2006, 07:08 PM

I agree with Conspiracy Dave in saying they won't be called passports, but instead something more appealing and deceptive.

I can see them being called something like Liberty Pass so people think they need them to keep their liberties as they pass 'freely' from state to state.

It's very silly though and it looks more like a method to track the movement of people. Europe will no doubt probably follow.

pizzaman777 · 09-11-2006, 05:58 AM

Maybe I wasn't specific here. I meant the passports now that you need to travel between countries will be needed to travel between states here in the U.S. Passports are are being given with RFID chips now...

harflimon · 09-12-2006, 12:16 AM

Just to make it perfectly clear the Real ID act has in fact been passed and will be implemented by 2008. I believe it is the first step to setting up a complete National ID, but what it will do is create a national registry of all our drivers license and those license will be imbedded with RFID and other biometric data. They are basically standardizing all the state drivers licenses in an effort to collaborate us into a single National ID. This is very real and already happening, but it isn't a passport in the sense of everyone having to get it if they want to travel between states. Drivers licenses are still voluntary in a sense.

If I was wrong with any thing there feel free to correct me, this isn't something I've been able to study much about, it's just what I've been able to figure out so far.

harflimon · 09-12-2006, 12:18 AM

Here's a wiki entrance I just looked-up about Real ID. It covers it fairly well, but I'm sure there are better articles on infowars or some other activist websites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act

Henry · 01-03-2007, 08:39 AM

Quote:They are basically standardizing all the state drivers licenses in an effort to collaborate us into a single National ID. This is very real and already happening, but it isn't a passport in the sense of everyone having to get it if they want to travel between states. Drivers licenses are still voluntary in a sense.

Yes, but it's being standardized to an "international" standard, not just a national one. They plan long term, cause they know exactly what their ultimate goals are.

I'd like to renew my passport now, and I'm still freaked out that now there's a place for the ss number, which I know wasn't there before. This is going to be a hassle applying without supplying it, likely letters back and forth, and if/when I do finally get it it'll likely have some tag making travel a nightmare. Anyone deal with this issue, or do you just give up the number and submit (no sarcasm, really).

MsLed · 01-03-2007, 10:26 PM

Quote:
Quote:They are basically standardizing all the state drivers licenses in an effort to collaborate us into a single National ID. This is very real and already happening, but it isn't a passport in the sense of everyone having to get it if they want to travel between states. Drivers licenses are still voluntary in a sense.

Yes, but it's being standardized to an "international" standard, not just a national one. They plan long term, cause they know exactly what their ultimate goals are.

I'd like to renew my passport now, and I'm still freaked out that now there's a place for the ss number, which I know wasn't there before. This is going to be a hassle applying without supplying it, likely letters back and forth, and if/when I do finally get it it'll likely have some tag making travel a nightmare. Anyone deal with this issue, or do you just give up the number and submit (no sarcasm, really).

I know how you feel. I can live without my passport but I can't work without my driving license. How hard it's going to be how long will you hold out? While everyone self thinks your insane for not giving in.

b00yuka · 01-04-2007, 12:30 AM

i just got back into canada from a cruise down south and i remember coming back through canada customs and reading something about starting jan16 or feb16 that all canadians/americans crossing into america/canada (respectively) will be required to carry a passport. so with the open border policies between these two countries deteriorating i wouldn't be surprised if the above post has some truth to it even for the Canadian provinces. but like it was stated i dont think they'll be called passports. guess 2007 is the time to start scouting out some good open land to hide out in and live off of.

01-04-2007, 02:47 AM

Quote:I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of people that live in one state and work in another state. Think of cities like St. Louis. What are they going to do make everyone have a passport to travel between the east and west side? Most of these cities have border that are completely meshed together beyond anything Big Brother could do to seperate. More likely they will just make a National ID, like the Real ID Act coming into effect in 2008.

A good example (albeit not AmeriKan) of working in one state and living in the other would be Lloydminster Ab/Sk.

From wiki....

Quote:Lloydminster is a Canadian city which has the unusual geographic distinction of straddling a provincial border. Unlike most such cases, Lloydminster is not a pair of twin cities on opposite sides of a border which merely share the same name, but is actually incorporated as a single city with a single municipal administration.

The provincial border runs north to south, falling directly on 50th Avenue (Meridian Avenue) in the centre of Lloydminster. Addresses east of 50th Avenue are considered to be in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan and addresses west of 50th Avenue are considered to be in Lloydminster, Alberta.

If they bought that in here, simply crossing a street would require a passport.