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Chavez Speech At The UN
09-22-2006, 09:12 AM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2006 09:14 AM by High_Treason.)
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http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/...cle_23036.shtml

Love him or hate him, he is one of the vey few voices of truth and reason from the world. I actually think he is trying to wake people up to the NWO agenda first in his Palast interview about the IMF, the World bank and the Federal Reserve and also now about the agenda of the elite. Here are some parts I would like to highlight from his amazing and honest speech.

And the devil came here yesterday. Yesterday the devil came here. Right here." [crosses himself] "And it smells of sulfur still today.



They say they want to impose a democratic model. But that's their democratic model. It's the false democracy of elites, and, I would say, a very original democracy that's imposed by weapons and bombs and firing weapons


- The imperialists see extremists everywhere. It's not that we are extremists. It's that the world is waking up. It's waking up all over. And people are standing up.


- I don't think anybody in this room could defend the system. Let's accept -- let's be honest. The U.N. system, born after the Second World War, collapsed. It's worthless


- President Michelle Bachelet reminded us just a moment ago of the horrendous assassination of the former foreign minister, Orlando Letelier.

- And I would just add one thing: Those who perpetrated this crime are free. And that other event where an American citizen also died were American themselves. They were CIA killers, terrorists.

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just realized someone posted it before:)

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09-23-2006, 08:16 AM
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Your thread was much better though.. :D

Chavez is a brave man. I hope he stays smart. He may be the prime target right now. Can you imagine if he got wacked? :blink:
That would be pandamonium.

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09-23-2006, 02:41 PM
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He is a passionate speaker, thankfully. Since he has called Bush the devil he will already be marked for 'deletion' at some point I dare say. An accident perhaps?

I always wonder why at the UN meeting when someone has done their speech, why they don't keep the speaker on the podium and then ask other people in the room to give their responses to accusations, that would be the real deal. At present these UN meetings are just reading out speeches and then running away. Pretty pathetic really.
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09-25-2006, 02:33 PM
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http://web.amnesty.orgbrary/eng-ven/index

http://hrw.org/doc/?t=americas&c=venezu

http://infovenezuela.org/

silencing the chavez opposition-
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&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
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At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
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09-25-2006, 07:08 PM (This post was last modified: 09-25-2006 07:11 PM by Skinski7.)
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Thanks for your post Jack. Hopefully some of those who admire Chavez will use the links to initiate an investigation so they learn the truth about Chavez.

To everone else who is praising Chavez you have been decieved. Chavez is New World Order through and through. He is a socialist and he despises american freedoms. Leaders of opposing groups have been known to vanish in Venezuela never to be seen again. Chavez is not on your side at all and in fact is an enemy.

You are buying 'rhetoric' from a speech which means nothing. Fidel Castro has made many nice sounding speeches and many ignorant americans buy those too. Sheeple buy this crap so stop being sheeple and do some research into these people you admire.

Chavez is NOT one of the very few voices of truth and reason from the world. Chavez supports one world totalitarian socialist government and the destruction of the USA Bill of Rights and Constitution. He supports a strengthened and reformed United Nations as well as other organs of international law. He has blatantly called for a New World Order many times so stop buying his deceptions.

A tactic in psychopolitical warfare which is intentionally used and is also nurtered into development is what is known as 'pressure from above and pressure from below. It is better known as the 'Pincer Strategy' and it is very effective.

G. W. Bush is one side of the pincer which is being used to destroy peoples faith in the United States system of government and the world socialist movement ala Hugo Chavez is the other end of the pincer which is being used ferment grassroot opposition to the United States of America. It is a dialectic strategy which is playing right into the formation of the world socialist government. An educated people who understand the principles and freedoms recognised and protected by the foundational law of the United States of America is the only thing standing in the way of the world totalitarian socialist government. When the USA falls the world will move into absolute tyranny very quickly!

Stop playing the name game which is a diversion. You will not find any leader of any nation anywhere in the world who is on the side of truth and freedom. Party politics, social democracies and even the United States adminstration have been totally subverted and exist just to placate the public in the illusion that they have a say and are free. Even the 'truth movement' so called has been subverted and neutralised for the most part by disinformation.
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09-26-2006, 12:04 AM
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Quote:Thanks for your post Jack. Hopefully some of those who admire Chavez will use the links to initiate an investigation so they learn the truth about Chavez.

To everone else who is praising Chavez you have been decieved. Chavez is New World Order through and through. He is a socialist and he despises american freedoms. Leaders of opposing groups have been known to vanish in Venezuela never to be seen again. Chavez is not on your side at all and in fact is an enemy.

You are buying 'rhetoric' from a speech which means nothing. Fidel Castro has made many nice sounding speeches and many ignorant americans buy those too. Sheeple buy this crap so stop being sheeple and do some research into these people you admire.

Chavez is NOT one of the very few voices of truth and reason from the world. Chavez supports one world totalitarian socialist government and the destruction of the USA Bill of Rights and Constitution. He supports a strengthened and reformed United Nations as well as other organs of international law. He has blatantly called for a New World Order many times so stop buying his deceptions.

A tactic in psychopolitical warfare which is intentionally used and is also nurtered into development is what is known as 'pressure from above and pressure from below. It is better known as the 'Pincer Strategy' and it is very effective.

G. W. Bush is one side of the pincer which is being used to destroy peoples faith in the United States system of government and the world socialist movement ala Hugo Chavez is the other end of the pincer which is being used ferment grassroot opposition to the United States of America. It is a dialectic strategy which is playing right into the formation of the world socialist government. An educated people who understand the principles and freedoms recognised and protected by the foundational law of the United States of America is the only thing standing in the way of the world totalitarian socialist government. When the USA falls the world will move into absolute tyranny very quickly!

Stop playing the name game which is a diversion. You will not find any leader of any nation anywhere in the world who is on the side of truth and freedom. Party politics, social democracies and even the United States adminstration have been totally subverted and exist just to placate the public in the illusion that they have a say and are free. Even the 'truth movement' so called has been subverted and neutralised for the most part by disinformation.

Anyone with any sense should realise that there has to be a global order of some sort in the future - it's simply unavoidable as the world gets smaller (by dint of technology). The problem lies in what form it will take. Personally, I'd rather see a benevolent socialist order where a far greater percentage of people directly benefit than simply saying NO to the idea completely.
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09-26-2006, 12:33 AM
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Quote:Anyone with any sense should realise that there has to be a global order of some sort in the future - it's simply unavoidable as the world gets smaller (by dint of technology). The problem lies in what form it will take. Personally, I'd rather see a benevolent socialist order where a far greater percentage of people directly benefit than simply saying NO to the idea completely.
benevolent
You must not have looked at the pics, this are people who dare to speack against chavez

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Not everyone likes him, BTW they used a computer system to tally and collect votes just like US.

@ Skinski7 I couldn't have sais it any better, thanks

&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
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09-26-2006, 12:41 AM
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Quote:far greater percentage of people directly benefit
Have you been there to know if this is true, those are the regular everyday people in those pics, and apparently they dissagree

&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
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09-26-2006, 08:40 AM (This post was last modified: 09-26-2006 08:41 AM by faceless.)
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Quote:Anyone with any sense should realise that there has to be a global order of some sort in the future - it's simply unavoidable as the world gets smaller (by dint of technology). The problem lies in what form it will take. Personally, I'd rather see a benevolent socialist order where a far greater percentage of people directly benefit than simply saying NO to the idea completely.
benevolent
You must not have looked at the pics, this are people who dare to speack against chavez

http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos...=true&Ux=0
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos...=true&Ux=0
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos...8029320105
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos...7844320105
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos...1509320105

Not everyone likes him, BTW they used a computer system to tally and collect votes just like US.

@ Skinski7 I couldn't have sais it any better, thanks

right-wing pricks getting battered for once? Who gives a fuck?

Not me.

And are you so scared of computers that you think they can't be used fairly? Get a grip.
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09-26-2006, 09:18 AM
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Quote:Thanks for your post Jack. Hopefully some of those who admire Chavez will use the links to initiate an investigation so they learn the truth about Chavez.
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To everone else who is praising Chavez you have been decieved. Chavez is New World Order through and through. He is a socialist and he despises american freedoms.
...

G. W. Bush is one side of the pincer which is being used to destroy peoples faith in the United States system of government and the world socialist movement ala Hugo Chavez is the other end of the pincer which is being used ferment grassroot opposition to the United States of America.

I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong. Neigther am I a fan of people I barely know anything about (i.e. Chavez), and you make many good points there. But you do realize this super patriotism and glorification of our form of Government doesn't come across a mind free of nationalistic indoctrination? Yes, I agree the constitution and bill of rights grants us many rights and liberties, amongst other things, which is great, but I wouldn't view them as some divine unfallible documents eigther, especially considering masonic involvement in the creation of the Federal Branch, all the documentation that goes along with it, and America in general.

On another note, this is just a thought off the top of my head so it's not necessarily very well thought out. It occured to me, especially after reading your post, that Chavez could be nothing more than a participant acting out the role of opposition and voicing "our" concerns, just like many of the other illusion presented to the world that the masses so willingly buy in to. Think about it, what's a better way to give false hope and minimize direct collective activism than to give "the people" a "leader" they want and expect to do the job for them?

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09-26-2006, 09:28 AM
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I actually agree with Skinski here. I don't know much about Chavez, but I know he supports the U.N. and that's enough for me to not like him. Anyways, I think in these times we all need to find leaders in ourselves and not try to follow just anyone with a mouth loud enough to speak to power. I've been posting this a lot I know, but I must once again reference to a Hopi elders saying:

"We have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour.
Now you must go back and tell the people that this is the Hour.

And there are things to be considered.
Where are you living? What are you doing?
What are your relationships? Are you in the right relation?
Where is your water? Know your garden.

It is time to speak your truth. Create your community.
Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for the leader.

This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast.
It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid.
They will try to hold onto the shore.
They will feel they are being torn apart and they will suffer greatly.
Know the river has its destination.
The elders say we must let go of the shore, and push off and into the river,
Keep our eyes open, and our head above the water.
See who is in there with you and Celebrate.

At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally.
Least of all ourselves. For the moment that we do,
Our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over, Gather yourselves!
Banish the word struggle from your attitude and your vocabulary.
All that you do now must be done in a sacred manner
And in celebration.

We are the one's we've been waiting for."

The Elders, Hopi Nation, Oraibi Arizona

In these times we must look to ourselves and communities, not to leaders that can insult each other with microphones. Anybody can call Bush the devil, only some of us know why... because he is working with the NWO to set up a one world government which was prophecized in the bible. It's the antichrist system through and through... you might not believe that, but globilization should be enough proof that a global system doesn't benefit anyone, but the rich. We need to decentralize power not give it to fewer hands that are increasingly out of reach of the populace.

The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
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11-26-2011, 07:49 PM
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Sounds a lot like the Gaddafi speech to the UN in late 2009.

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations [2009.09.23] [mp3-64kbps]
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=10125

But than again maybe that wasn't Gaddafi that was captured and killed kind of like Osama bin Laden who probably died well before that body was fed to the fishes or just took off like and let one of his body doubles get the shaft, sort of like how the Saddam Huessin hanging happened with his double (his wife spoke out saying it wasn't him according to second hand reports I'd heard).

There has been a contingent on standby supposedly fighting a Drug War and then US Congress is attempting to engineer consent for attacks on both Iran AND Venezuela now.

Also I wonder where that military contingent deployed to Costa Rica and Haiti last summer ended up?

46 US Warships Plus 7,000 US Marines On Route To Costa Rica
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=33868


Interesting Tangent Thread:

U2 Bono Backing Venezuela-invasion Video Game
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=23068

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