Tactical Nuke Explodes In Iraq!?

[TraxusIV]

Quote:9 Transport Planes Ferried American Dead Bodies From Baghdad
Publication time: 12 October 2006, 08:22

~it was now a "burned out wasteland with no buildings.

The Falcon base was the biggest US arsenal in central Iraq and was the launching point for US military operations. The arsenal contained more than 50 tanks; numerous artillery pieces; a landing strip for Chinook helicopters, some of which were parked there when the place exploded; in addition to armories containing weapons and ammunition.

He said that all the buildings and furnishings of the base had been totally destroyed, and the archive records of the US troops was completely wiped out.
At least 30 US Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles were known to have been destroyed in the devastating Resistance attack on the Falcon Arsenal in southern Baghdad.

the US had used 13 huge military transport trucks to haul completely charred American armored vehicles out of the remains of the American Falcon base. The US forces hid the burnt wreckage of the vehicles behind the vegetable wholesale market known as the 'Ulwat ar-Rashid Commercial Market.

Witnesses reported that about 15 minutes before sunset Wednesday, the procession of vehicles under US helicopter air cover and escorted by Humvees took the wrecked vehicles, estimated to number at least 22 to the back wall of the 'Ulwah. The Americans then set up a guard post to control access to the wrecked vehicles.

The Americans also set up a checkpoint 2km away where they confiscated cell phones with built-in cameras because travelers on their way to the village of as-Sa'idat would be able clearly to see the wrecked armored vehicles.

LOL. That isnt incredibly suspicious.

I dunno, I guess it is possible that is was a mini-nuke. I mean, 30 abrams tanks got destroyed?!?! The real question is, if it werent a mini-nuke, how on earth did some insurgents do this? How on earth did they destroy all the buildings? This was a U.S. military base against some rag-tag untrained militia?

[standvast]

very low resolution , light sensitive night-camera, black and white...
no visible shockwave, highly doubt it was a nuke, even a small one.
could've been a conventional missile, or a big ground explosion,...

[waxzy]

def not a nuke

[harflimon]

If that's a nuke it's the smallest nuke ever created:P

I thought the first time i watched it, that it was possible, but if you look at it a few times it's pretty apparent that it's not a nuke. I would bet money that it was a DU bomb tho.

[Tripled]

Quote:If that's a nuke it's the smallest nuke ever created:P

I thought the first time i watched it, that it was possible, but if you look at it a few times it's pretty apparent that it's not a nuke. I would bet money that it was a DU bomb tho.

Du is used in bullets, not bombs. it's used because it has some fantastic penetration properties.

apon impact and piercing of the target, it vapourises, hence the spreading of it.

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[harflimon]

From Wiki:

"DU was used during the mid-1990s in the U.S. to make 9 mm and similar caliber armor piercing bullets, grenades, cluster bombs, and mines"

It's main use is ammo, but they have put it in some bombs. That probably wasn't a cluster bomb exploding though.

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Some Links about Falcon:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...raq/rasheed.htm
http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

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[ov3rkomer]

Why it likely was a nuke:[list]
[*]Smallest known nuke 10 tons of TNT equivalent - that was 40 years ago. Couldn't they be smaller today? Biggest conventional bombs are about 8 tons TNT. A mini-nuke could have been between 5 and 100 tons of TNT equivalent using low radiation fusion technology.<>
[*]The blast wave from a small nuke would be similar to a conventional blast wave of similar TNT equivalent, (thus nothing like what we see in old nuke-videos) and probably shielded by buildings. If the nuke was on the ground, a large part of the blast would have gone upwards.<>
[*]The destruction was very extensive as described above: it was now a "burned out wasteland with no buildings.<>
[*]EMP calculations are based on bombs 100 to 1,000,000 times bigger. This means 100 to 1,000,000 less power to knock out a camera's electronics (maybe miles away) by EMP<>
[*]The flash lighted the whole sky, compare with smaller explosions before. A conventional explosive would unlikely do that. Modern cameras can hanlde a wide range of light intensity.<>
[*]If radiation is found, they will blame it on DU ammunition.<>
[*]If it was not an accident, it was a false flag operation to send a 'message' to Iran: "Hey, we can nuke your cities and no-one will even notice it is a nuke." But it could have been an accident, too - maybe preplaced tactical nuke for the Iran war.<>
[*]Quite an effective "news-blackout". Only broadcast video in Arab world. Try to find pictures thru google news... Try to find a complete video (Houston Chronicle's AP-video stops 1 minute too early)<>
[*]The mushroom cloud is quite distinctive and obviously smaller than the ones we know from 1950's nukes which were 1000 times stronger. This is from camp Falcon, Baghdad:<>
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Compare with Video YouTube - Shock and Awe, what do you think they used there?

Also check Vialls' site: Micro Nuke Used in Bali

[Tripled]

Quote:From Wiki:

"DU was used during the mid-1990s in the U.S. to make 9 mm and similar caliber armor piercing bullets, grenades, cluster bombs, and mines"

It's main use is ammo, but they have put it in some bombs. That probably wasn't a cluster bomb exploding though.

yeah well, welcome to Wiki-(half-truth)....

makes absolutely no sense putting DU in grenades, cluster bombs or mines.

This might be a little more helpful:

http://cseserv.engr.scu.edu/StudentWebPage...searchPaper.htm

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[psilocybin]

Beleiving this is a nuke is like walking on a rotten bridge. There is absolutely no evidence but this vid. Nobody here is a weapons expert so no one has a clue.

One thing about nukes:

Shockwave
Em Pulse.

The vid showed no evidence of either.

Vid was night vision, which a well aimed flashlight would white out.

Just cause you want to beleive it isn't good enough.

Brain start working.

[Tripled]

Quote:Beleiving this is a nuke is like walking on a rotten bridge. There is absolutely no evidence but this vid. Nobody here is a weapons expert so no one has a clue.

One thing about nukes:

Shockwave
Em Pulse.

The vid showed no evidence of either

Are you saying the video should have shown the Shockwave and EMP?

Camp Falcon is approx. 11 km from Baghdad. How exactly does an EMP look like on a video? While your at it think Bali... as in below the surface.

Quote:Vid was night vision, which a well aimed flashlight would white out.

Are you saying someone well aimed a flashlight at that video camera at that very time?

Quote:Just cause you want to beleive it isn't good enough.

Brain start working.

Actually mine seems to be working quite fine, but considering the above, is yours?

While your at it, this would appear to be a very large incident in Iraq. Why has it not been flooded on the news media?

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[ov3rkomer]

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[psilocybin]

EMP would be all the lights shutting off.

No I' not saying a flashlight did it, it was a point of reference to show that it doesn't take that many lumens to max out a night vision camera.

Defending this without any evidence other than a shotty internet video takes a leap of faith.