Moving Towards Tobacco Prohibition

[plasticfan]

Moving Towards Tobacco Prohibition
Ron Paul
Texas Straight Talk
June 15, 2009

Last week, another bill was passed and signed into law that takes more of our freedoms and violates the Constitution of the United States. It was, of course, done for the sake of the children, and in the name of the health of the citizenry. It’s always the case that when your liberty is seized, it is seized for your own good. Such is the condescension of Washington.

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act will give sweeping new powers over tobacco to the FDA. It will require everyone engaged in manufacturing, preparing, compounding, or processing tobacco to register with the FDA and be subjected to FDA inspections, which is yet another violation of the Fourth Amendment. It violates the First Amendment by allowing the FDA to restrict tobacco advertising in multiple ways, as well as an outright ban on advertising any cigarettes as light, mild or low-tar. The FDA will have the power of pre-market reviews of all new tobacco products, and will impose new user fees, meaning taxes, on manufacturers and importers of tobacco products. It will even regulate the amount of nicotine in cigarettes.

My objections to the bill are not an endorsement of tobacco. As a physician I understand the adverse health effects of this bad habit. And that is exactly how smoking should be treated – as a bad habit and a personal choice. The way to combat poor choices is through education and information. Other than ensuring that tobacco companies do not engage in force or fraud to market their products, the federal government needs to stay out of the health habits of free people. Regulations for children should be at the state level. Unfortunately, government is using its already overly intrusive financial and regulatory roles in healthcare to establish a justifiable interest in intervening in your personal lifestyle choices as well. We all need to anticipate the level of health freedom that will remain once government manages all health care in this country.

Actions in Congress such as this tobacco bill are especially disconcerting after we thought we were beginning to see some progress in drawing down the wrong-headed and failed war on drugs. A majority of Americans now think marijuana should be legal, taxed and regulated, according to a recent Zogby poll and over 70 percent are in favor of allowing medicinal use of marijuana. Bills like this take us down exactly the wrong path. Instead of gaining more freedom with marijuana, we are moving closer to prohibiting tobacco. Our prisons are already bursting with non-violent drug offenders. How long will it be before a black market in tobacco fills the prisons with non-violent cigarette smokers?

Hemp and tobacco were staple crops for our founding fathers when our country was new. It is baffling to see how far removed from real freedom this country has become since then. Hemp, even for industrial uses, of which there are many, is illegal to grow at all. Now tobacco will have more layers of bureaucracy and interference piled on top of it. In this economy it is extremely upsetting to see this additional squeeze put on an entire industry. One has to wonder how many smaller farmers will be forced out of business because of this bill.


http://www.infowars.com/moving-towards-t...ohibition/

[Awe]

Add another 'drug' that the intelligence agencys can smuggle into the country to the list. Making billions for the elite familys.

[plasticfan]

heh..

just wait till they tie together Kyoto protocols, sustainable land use / environmental laws and orwellian surveillance / control grid technology into calorie intakes and sustainable diets....

give it 15 or 20 years and you may even see "black market" hamburgers and french fries...

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[Awe]

I honestly don't believe people like you and me will be around to see that happen, they know all our ip's and what we do on the net, all they need is another terrorist attack of a massive scale to start rounding people up.

That world will be for the sheeple to enjoy.

But I believe you are probably right in that their will be a booming black market

[rsol]

well politics makes for strange bed fellows.... i should quit for health reasons but i cant quit for political reasons.

With me its a question of will power, i have too much. If i am surrounded by dicks telling me not to do something i have this urge to say "fuck you ill smoke treebark if i want"

These "health" laws stink of a week old astray. We are safeguarding peoples health by banning smoking in places like bus shelters NEXT TO A ROAD ffs. helloooo i dont think its the 25% of ppl smoking thats causing all these problems with ppls lungs. I remember the statistic. "25% of ppl exposed to smoking have a greater possibility of cancer" hmm 1in 4 eh? and? whats happening with the other 3 in this scenario? well i found out

2 out of 4 NO EFFECT
1 out of 4 positive effect as in making the lungs stronger and easier to combat lung desease, like a sun tan. now lets have a quick round up of the figure in total

1 out of 4 possible bad effect
2 out 4 NO effect
1 out of 4 positive effect.

Now lets try this experiment with a vehicle. lets leave them in there for say 30 minute..........ding! lets take a look
4 out of 4 dead.......hmmm

You see its not about your health its about what bothers you. non smokers are notoriously feeble when it comes to smells, aw my nose is making me cry boohoo. i cant stand the smell of smoke. well now you can suck in the smell of piss and sweat in that bar you never go to. great stuff.

you see in this topsy turvey world we live in. Its not about the truth its about getting what we want done. if i have to lie about health issues so i can walk into my local and smell the beer sitting stale on the carpet, thats what i want. and ill say anything to get it.

now we live in a world where its terribly bad for you to be eating food next to some smelly smoker but ok to eat out, by a road, bacause as we all know, cars....."DONT CAUSE CANCER" Thats right they dont. you cant tell as there is no surgeon generals warning on the bottom. "yes but people need cars "i hear you cry. well i need a fag! i have evidence

I have a physical addiction to nicotine can you say the same about YOUR dirty habit? we have an obesity crisis atm and we all know smokers are not big on putting on weight. you would think they would encourage this. surely cars are way more harm to your toddler walking down the road than some smoker in a pub. if its health you are worried about.. "yeah what do you want us to do? ban cars? NO but you dont see me running out to middle of the street asking ppl to turn their engines off as it BOTHERS ME. NO YOU DONT BECAUSE THATS FUCKING CRAZY!!! christ i need a fag.

Health? fuck off. id rather walk to a tobacconist than drive to a deli. enjoy your healthy fat, smell free sterile antibiotic existence....... and worst of all you never have a light......figures. these days when someone sitting outside asks me for an ashtray i direct them to flick it on small childrens head and other passers by as its supposed to be an unsociable habit. may aswell go hog wild. rant over

[joeblow]

My colleagues and myself had a discussion among ourselves on one of my shows concerning why the "Illuminati" would want to ban smoking. I put forward the thesis that it might actually interfere with their plans to decrease our immune systems, i.e. chemtrails et al. People have been smoking for hundreds of years without the majority becoming afflicted with lung cancer, this is a recent phenomenon. Look up radioactive polonium additives in tobacco fertilizers.

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Quote:My colleagues and myself had a discussion among ourselves on one of my shows concerning why the "Illuminati" would want to ban smoking. I put forward the thesis that it might actually interfere with their plans to decrease our immune systems, i.e. chemtrails et al. People have been smoking for hundreds of years without the majority becoming afflicted with lung cancer, this is a recent phenomenon. Look up radioactive polonium additives in tobacco fertilizers.

You sound like Alan Watt.

[Easy Skanking]

This new law is bullshit.
The only backer is Phillip Morris.
Well guess who's brands of tobacco are NOT affected....Phillip Morris.
Funny how that happens, huh?

So now I have to order them over the net or make my own because PM wants a complete monopoly and Congress is in their back pockets. Gotta love this fucking police state that is still anachronistically called the United States.
Making my own Kretek (clove cigarette) is okay but it's still nowhere near the brands of PT Djarum that can't be sold in the US anymore. Ordering them online might work but US customs is sitting on my order for 2 weeks and I can't get through to them to see what the holdup is. It's almost like PM and congress want us to have only the choice to smoke PM brands that have all kinds of evil and addictive chemicals in them instead of naturally grown ingredients like are used in PT Djarum's brands. Wow. It sounds just like a conspiracy....

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Quote:This new law is bullshit.
The only backer is Phillip Morris.
Well guess who's brands of tobacco are NOT affected....Phillip Morris.
Funny how that happens, huh?

So now I have to order them over the net or make my own because PM wants a complete monopoly and Congress is in their back pockets. Gotta love this fucking police state that is still anachronistically called the United States.
Making my own Kretek (clove cigarette) is okay but it's still nowhere near the brands of PT Djarum that can't be sold in the US anymore. Ordering them online might work but US customs is sitting on my order for 2 weeks and I can't get through to them to see what the holdup is. It's almost like PM and congress want us to have only the choice to smoke PM brands that have all kinds of evil and addictive chemicals in them instead of naturally grown ingredients like are used in PT Djarum's brands. Wow. It sounds just like a conspiracy....

Thank fvck for postal unions