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drehus · 12-30-2006, 04:24 PM

Rupert from the wilderness moved to venezuala from what I heard. Maybe he had the right idea escaping the control grid.

sunuvsamm · 12-30-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:Rupert from the wilderness moved to venezuala from what I heard. Maybe he had the right idea escaping the control grid.

just an update to your post on Ruppert...........

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/...ke_canada.shtml

MIKE RUPPERT IN CANADA
RECOVERING - LEGAL NOTICE

Nov. 26, 2006 - Thanks to contributions and assistance from so many of you, Mike Ruppert was successfully moved from Venezuela to Canada on November 18th. He is currently in the greater Toronto area and receiving medical care and rest thanks to dedicated Peak Oil activists. In addition to his previously described symptoms it has been learned that his adrenal system is severely damaged and there may be toxicity of the liver. He has lost more than 20 pounds in the last ten weeks. Many of you have written suggesting possible poisoning as cause for his known symptoms. We are not pursuing that at the moment because the treatment for the symptoms would not change in either case.

Mike has received offers of residency from more than 20 countries on five continents. It will not be possible to further consider those options until his health has stablized which may take several months. In addition, Mike must also turn his attention to a number of legal issues arising from FTW's permanent cessation of operations.

LEGAL NOTICE -- Michael Ruppert has every intention of satisfying all legitimate outstanding debts of From The Wilderness Publications, Inc. Those creditors and customers with unfilled orders who have not received refunds are asked to maintain complete records. At a subsquent date, either the FTW web site or Mike Ruppert's blog will post notices about how to make contact and present claims. At present, the Ashland, Oregon offices are vacant and all phone lines have been disconnected. For the time being mail should still be sent to the Ashland address as it is being forwarded to a temporary holding area, pending new arrangements.

The first priority is for Mike to recover his health. He will, as soon as he is able, be pursuing legal and financial arrangements to satisfy all obligations but it may take several months before funds become available.

Mike sends the following message to all FTW subscribers, friends and fans:

"Over the past four months many of you have touched me with your generous and loving offers of support and encouragement. You have kept me alive. I have also understood, probably for the first time, how deeply FTW has impacted your lives and the lives of a new and younger generation. As my health and my access to your letters improves I will be writing personally to as many of you as I possibly can.

"I want to repeat something I have been saying in private emails over the last month. Personally, I am through forever with investigative journalism and public lecturing. I am leaving public life. It is my hope that by continuing to repeat this sincere position that many of the inexplicable difficulties which have dominated my life over the past months will ease.

"It is time to move on. I spent twenty-seven years as a dedicated public activist and that is something which I am no longer able or inclined to do. The price was ultimately too great. I want to assure all FTW creditors that if it takes the rest of my life we will pay off our debts. Unfortunately, any unfillfilled orders will not and cannot be shipped. We will refund them as soon as we are able. Many of the tragedies and mishaps which marked FTW's final months and necessitated its closure became a perfect storm. How they played out has already been discussed. But I am still alive and plans are underway to have the FTW web site archived in perpetuity on the internet for the benefit of future researchers and we expect that to happen soon.

"This is not the end but a new beginning."

While donations are not needed to relocate Mike to another country, there is still a need for funds to cover immediate medical expenses. Mike Ruppert will not be able to travel long distances for the foreseeable future. He will continue to work with and through his New York attorney Ray Kohlman and Jenna Orkin.

Please continue to send donations and essential correspondence to the address below. If sending a donation, please remember to put "For Mike Ruppert" in the memo line.

Ray Kohlman
300 East 71st St.
Suite 3H
New York, NY 10021

Thank you all.

StingingNettle · 12-30-2006, 06:34 PM

I think 2007 is the year we start meeting up with eachother for support groups. The internet is good, but we will start needing to help eachother in the real world now. That way we can localize, come up with ideas, help eachother out, and report back on a bbs or something.

harflimon · 12-31-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:I am against this as well. Everyone I show the info to shrugs it off and claims I'm overreacting about the significance. I guess no one but me read "1984" when it was assigned reading in school. :dazed:

Thanks for the NO2ID link. Some good stuff on that site.

Wow that book was actually assigned reading? I bet it would be burned before let within a mile near the school I graduated from:P

I've told a few people about this as well. They do the little "I don't like it, but I'm too much of a pussy to do anything about it" face and shrug it off, then they don't want to talk about it anymore. It's frustrating. I really don't know what these people need to actually do something. It's like they will only be willing to fight back after they are in the concentration camps, when they have no chance. Well this real ID act and the NAU highways are the starting point to turning this country into one big concentration camp.

Needless to say I have no idea what I'll do when this happens. I will undoubtedly want to resist, but if not many people do will it make a difference? Should we choose our battles? This seems like the one if any to stand up and fight. I only hope we have enough. If not were in big trouble. After all, if they use this to round up the truth-fighters first, who will be around to help the sheeple when they finally want to wake up and fight back?

It sure is moving fast now.

commanderson · 01-02-2007, 05:39 AM

Quote:I been in full support of these guys here http://www.no2id.net/
for a damn good while

and in turn they do give support too through the many things they do
but still I just feel this isnt gonna be enough to hold that I.D shit back
Im stressing here.. I know its not gonna work

I like the old way of doing things too much, and thats with force...
tis the only way I can see real shit going down:(

I support these guys too madizims, I tried to get them to come along to my screening of terrorstorm in Edinburgh though and they werent realy interested in allying their campaign with any sort of 9/11 truth, or illuminati awareness, seeing it as too farout for people. But at the same time they complained about disinterest from the public and I was trying to convince them (this is just the edinburgh faction) that bringing out these more bombastic issues is key to getting interest stirred up into whats happening here, same as the anti war guys and the dui campaigners, all seem to want to protest on one single issue rather than open up the whole picture to people.
If were gonna get reall resistance together we gotta get all these splintered factions protesting this main force which is the new world order, accepting the history of it, and informing accross the board, single issue politics is thouroughly disarming

blove8. · 01-02-2007, 05:56 AM

Quote:I think 2007 is the year we start meeting up with eachother for support groups. The internet is good, but we will start needing to help eachother in the real world now. That way we can localize, come up with ideas, help eachother out, and report back on a bbs or something.

Perhaps start up a Lone Lantern Society in your area?

w199i · 01-02-2007, 08:32 AM

Aaron Mann pointed out what I'm seeing over here in Australia - No where to run as well!

Joe Hockey (a big fat qld gov. bastard) is doing the wedge sell trick here - Start out saying it's just a ID card for small services like welfare (we call Centerlink) and other crap.

As alCIAda, google is, I like getting the news alerts on the 'Australian smart card' to see each week all of the new NGO's that are being put on board as well.

Under section 44 (.i) the Australian Constitution, the current sitting government has been null and void since the Afghanistan invasion in 2001.

Hello to Jonathan Winston Howard's minions that haven't read our Constitution, and or heard Sir David Smiths speech yet laying out the importance of sovereign law.

Former ASIO guy Andrew Wilki knows what I mean.

Cheers :cool:

Henry · 01-04-2007, 07:25 AM

Quote:would you say leaving the country is a cowards way out? i had thought about this.

No, I had thought about it too and decided I do need to move. However, I'm moving to New Hampshire with the free state project ( http://www.freestateproject.com ) in order to live around like-minded people, and to work on removing federal control from at least one state. What finally sold me on the idea was the "101 Reasons" file on the top right part of their website. I then flew out there (from San Francisco) for a week to meet people and check it out. It was awesome, really. Just in that time I met like four or five people who don't use SS numbers under any circumstances, and who "get it." If you're freaked out about the NWO like I am, then consider checking it out. It's a very diverse group perspective-wise, but they all want the same thing, and are already removing oppressive laws left and right just with the few hundred who have already moved. Yes, it's cold there, but I'd rather be cold in NH than warm in a Texas FEMA camp. I'll chill out now but anyways, that's my invite to you. Thanks.

Thought Experiment · 01-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Quote:I think 2007 is the year we start meeting up with eachother for support groups. The internet is good, but we will start needing to help eachother in the real world now. That way we can localize, come up with ideas, help eachother out, and report back on a bbs or something.

definately agree with that one StingingNettle. maybe the good folks in the ConCen admin department could make a new forum directory specifically for people to arrange grassroots meetings, petitions etc.???

what do you think to that, Ctrl???

Henry · 01-05-2007, 08:38 PM

Quote:
Quote: I think 2007 is the year we start meeting up with eachother for support groups. The internet is good, but we will start needing to help eachother in the real world now. That way we can localize, come up with ideas, help eachother out, and report back on a bbs or something.

definately agree with that one StingingNettle. maybe the good folks in the ConCen admin department could make a new forum directory specifically for people to arrange grassroots meetings, petitions etc.???

what do you think to that, Ctrl???

Yeah, that would be pretty cool.

StingingNettle · (This post was last modified: 01-06-2007 11:21 PM by StingingNettle.)

Yeah, I'm going to try and start something up soon. Hopefully by spring. I have a couple of good close friends who see what's coming down the road. Its should be a good start.:)

I basically want a support network for jobs without the 1040 and income tax withdraws via the "we the people foundation" method. Trying to us silver as money (the silver liberties), avoiding the real id act of 2008, survival and meditation practices.

Henry · 01-07-2007, 01:57 AM

Quote:Yeah, I'm going to try and start something up soon. Hopefully by spring. I have a couple of good close friends who see what's coming down the road. Its should be a good start.:)

I basically want a support network for jobs without the 1040 and income tax withdraws via the "we the people foundation" method. Trying to us silver as money (the silver liberties), avoiding the real id act of 2008, survival and meditation practices.

Yes, this is very very important. Economic tyranny supercedes and allows all other types. I tried removing withholding from my employer and after their legal dept. got back with me it was a no go, for not other reason than that they didn't want to create any red flags with the feds. I need to pay rent, detest being a slave at the same time. 1/3 of my life's labor is stolen before I see it. I'm part of the free state project, and I met a community there when I visited to check it out who use liberty dollars for at least half of their purchases, especially in the Keene area. I know there are problems with the liberty dollar, but anything is better right now than FRNs.