So Was David Icke Right?

[wickywoowoo]

Even then, he didn't completely drop it. I own the F2F DVD he made and he mentions Reptilians a few times on DVD 3 but in a logical manner to explain the manipulation of reality point he tries to make now.

I honestly feel that if he mixed the nature of reality discussion with the Reptilians, he may make people understand what he is trying to say a lot better, but the problem would be that people then use this to discredit the entire alternate reality community due to "the lizard people living there", which I think he would try to avoid.

David Icke could really get a new audience with the reality stuff as we now seemingly have Daniel Pinchbeck about now to appeal to the "stoner" community that Terence McKenna and Bill Hicks used to appeal to, him appearing on the Colbert Report makes me think the guy is about to stay for a while, so maybe we are getting a retro revival of sorts with the psychedelic drugs community?

[EmThor]

This is my first post here, and I'd like to thank Ctrl and the "team" for this site,
and especially for sharing this torrent: David Icke: Was he right? documentary, which I couldn't see for I live in Hungary.

Thank You, such a great present even in 16:10 aspect ration (was a big hit on my 19" widecreen lcd!)

[1984]

@ The Real Enigma

Thanks for posting this so soon, I was really looking forward to seeing this and thanks for the very good quality capture as well, just what I like.

[slothy]

Thanks to the capper/seeder from me too.

Whether the reptilian stuff is true or not, it doesn't help to get people thinking. People are either too scared or set in their ways to even question 9/11, and any chances to make jokes and dismiss the whole thing are all too readily taken.

[rabidwombat]

this is obviously an old and dead thread, but i happened across it so what the hell... kinda blown away by the fact that no one mentioned that maybe this guy ripped a page right out of the script for the hit 1980's hit show "V" and added crazy conspiritorial words like 'illuminati' and such. dont get me wrong, i found this thread by putting 'transcendentalism and shapeshifting' into my search engine so im not as sane as this post makes me sound. simply put there is definitely a link between the two. as far as his supposed "predictions" im kind of at a loss. i can only say that i have often come to somewhat 'prophetic' conclusions simply through using common sense and what not which leads me to the old addage that a genius teeters on the edge of insanity. and another bone to pick with you guys. you guys really go over the top with the giant words. i figured the internet and such was to inform the people. ive come to the conclusion that any normal person (myself being quite a bit above that) would have taken about a week (not to mention a large dictionary/thesaurus/new age encyclopoedia) to sift through this ridiculous, albeit entertaining, jargon. there is a reason why average people percieve intelligent or superintelligent people as pretentious. you many are said reason. i am not looking to start a fight but if you speak to people in terms they understand the tend to be more receptive to what you have to say. just because you have to use simple terms doesnt take away from said information. the point isnt to prove youre superior, its to prove you are right. right?

[kevlar]

the thread is four years old, some good people replied in it though, some people with a lot of insight, it is a shame all of these people have left the forum to never return. We are left with the likes of rsol and these clowns here.

So do we welcome another clown to the forum today ? rabidwombat are you trying to make a point or were you asking a question ?

Which big words were you referring to that should be toned down as to not appear superior... ?

[rabidwombat]

i realized the thread was 4 years old. i had to do the math to figure out that v came out before icke's rant. figure out who ripped off who ya know. as for me being a clown, i have no idea. my question was simple. doesnt it seem a little odd when people take a work of fiction and build a belief structure out of it (i.e. scientology)?

i am most likely not one of the wise ones. do i stand above most others i have ever met? the answer is head and shoulders. the words a person uses doesnt make them superior. what knowledge a person has doesnt make them superior. what makes a person superior is what they choose to do with what knowledge, wisdom, influence, and insight that makes said person superior.

so kevlar, if you would kindly point me to where the clowns do not frequent, i would be most appreciative.

[kevlar]

i think that david icke adds the ridiculous reptile aspect so that he can get away with saying what he does about everything else. If he started naming names of individuals then he would be kicked on the street. People always say, who is it, what is it. If you say they are trying to implement a police state. People say who is they? David icke just says they are the illuminati and inter-dimension reptiles. I don't take that literally, i take it as they are evil people, acting without consideration. As it is far more complex than that.

As for scientology that is created in such a way, like most organised religion to play on the emotional and human behavioural characteristics in order to manipulate people.

[mothandrust]

yeah, some great names from the past.

personally i steer well clear of this whole reptile thing - i think it is misguided. i think it is foolish to see it as literal. although reckon you can see it as a throwback to pre-social lifeforms in some sort of conceptua or figurative sense, but then i also reckon the majority of humanity is encouraged to behave like that these days: which really, really does not bode well for any coherent future.

[capmtripps]

(trolling)

David Icke is a shape-shifting reptile. Have you seen his hands and potbelly?

(/trolling)

But I kid... David Icke was one of the first researchers that got me interested in the conspiracy-fringe side of things and I have much respect and thanks for his efforts. I don't know if he is so committed or adamant about the reptile thing as his critics like to make him out to be, but that's beside the point. What he was really trying to communicate by that idea, methinks, is that people have been having these common experiences around the world and that they can be understood by applying the reptilian perspective/agenda into the operation of terrestrial affairs. Creedo Mutwa, wow, that shit blew me away 6 or 7 years ago! It took me a few years before I could even integrate all of this information, and I just let it simmer on a back burner for a while until I could make sense out of it for myself. I didn't go out and tell people that the bitch-mother of a queen was a reptile, nor did I go out and tell people that David Icke is a fucking lunatic. What I did was postpone judgment until I was able to make a sane enough interpretation of my own as to what this guy was going on about when he said reptiles.

So, for my two cents, "Was David Icke Right?" is best answered as yes and/or no, both at the same time, and neither. Maybe Logic... a beautiful thing.

Peace.