Bosnian Pyramid Updates Kinda

[waxzy]

what do you think folks? Still saying theres no pyramid?

:dazed:

[Valentine]

We should know soon. It's intriguing whatever it is. Couldn't get to the bosnianpyramid.org site but found this news article.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12320566/

The Bosnian archaeologist leading the work says the 2,120-foot (650-meter) mound rising above the small town of Visoko resembles pyramid sites in Latin America that he has studied. It would be the first pyramid ever discovered in Europe.

Initial research on the hill, known as Visocica, found that it has perfectly shaped, 45-degree slopes pointing toward the cardinal points and a flat top. Under layers of dirt, workers discovered a paved entrance plateau, entrances to tunnels and large stone blocks that might be part of a pyramid's outer surface.

Satellite photographs and thermal imaging revealed two other, smaller pyramid-shaped hills in the Visoko Valley.

Friday's excavations began with a team of rescue workers from a nearby coal mine being sent into a tunnel believed to be part of an underground network connecting the three hills.

They were followed by archaeologists, geologists and other experts who emerged from the tunnel later to declare that it was certainly human-made.

"This is definitely not a natural formation," said geologist Nadja Nukic.

Weeks of work ahead
The teams descended about 260 meters (yards) into the tunnel but found the rest of the way blocked by a cave-in. The tunnel is thought to be 2.4 miles (3.8 kilometers) long, and the team found two intersections with other tunnels leading off to the left and right.

Other teams began digging 10 shafts at several spots to see if they will run into stone blocks below the slopes of the hill.

The work will continue for about six months at the site just outside Visoko, about 20 miles (30 kilometers) northwest of the capital, Sarajevo. Two experts from Egypt are due to join the team in mid-May.

"We expect the first raw results in about three weeks," said Semir Osmanagic, the Bosnian archaeologist leading the project.

Millennia-old legends
Locals have held many legends about the hill, but Osmanagic, who spent the last 15 years studying the pyramids of Latin America, was the first to suggest that Visocica could be hiding a pyramid.

Anthropologists say the Visoko Valley already offers ample evidence of organized human settlements dating back 7,000 years. The town was Bosnia's capital during the Middle Ages, and German archaeologists working the valley recently found 24,000 Neolithic artifacts just 3 feet (1 meter) below ground.

Osmanagic claims Visocica is a classic example of cultures building on the top of other cultures.

A medieval fortress used by Bosnian kings for two centuries sits on top of the Visocica hill. The fortress was built over a Roman Empire observation post, which was built on the ruins of an Illyrian settlement. The Illyrians inhabited the Balkan peninsula long before Slavic tribes conquered it around A.D. 600.

No pyramids are known in Europe, and there is no evidence any ancient civilization there ever attempted to build one.

Osmanagic believes Visocica is hiding one, though he has no solid theories on how old it is or who might have built it. Osmanagic quickly named the three hills the Pyramids of the Sun, Moon and Dragon.

Tacky souvenirs for tourists
The locals were quick to catch on to the excitement, offering a tacky assortment of pyramid souvenirs for sale to curious visitors.

An unemployed car mechanic from Visoko, Ensad Husic, 36, joined Friday's excavation work in hopes the team will eventually prove Visocica is a pyramid. He sees the project as a job opportunity. "One can already feel the town is busy. I would not be here if I would not believe it is one," he said.

[pizzaman777]

http://bosnianpyramid.com

Nice find waxzy :biggrin:

There is also alink to a short 20 minute documentary about the pyramids:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...53&hl=en-GB

[pizzaman777]

Another update:

http://www.bosnian-pyramid.com/forum/vie....php?t=777

[Calculon]

So are they planning to excavate that whole mountain?

If they do pull all that dirt away they will most likely find that it was a
village built in to the side of a natural mountain.

Pictures like this one make it look much less convincing that it is a pyramid and more like a mountain or hill with ancient settlements on it.



Remember this one from Antartica. Looks man made but its natural. Its even more convincing than the Bosnian "pyramid".

[hardboiled11]

how do we know that one in antaritica is natural:)lets go dig a bit oye?

[igster]

I have met Mr. Osmanagic before 2 months, he signed me autogram on his book:D

He is very cool person. It is not easy for him cause there are many archeologists that envy him and want to stop his work.

If you want to know more about Semir works come to this page and feel free to read cause he has all his books on this site:

http://www.alternativnahistorija.com/
http://www.alternativnahistorija.com/WMmain.htm

[igster]

THE FORMULA TO UNDERSTAND THE BOSNIAN PYRAMIDS - 30.12.2006.

When I have announced for the first time my idea about the existence of the first European pyramids it sounded unbelieveable. Different expected reactions have been raised from scientific ambiences. Some parties of the scientific community, open minded to accept new ideas, make no hasty or premature judgements.

Others, like those who aren't inclined to changes, convinced about their conservative views, promptly attacked the hypothesis and tried to debunk it's author. Some of them, showed a typical bosnian propensity, by launching libel and insults from behind the scenes.

The author, famous for his claim that he will "burn" himself, because Bosnia and Herzegowina has the most significative archaeological memorial on the planet, wanted that, if possible, this memorial should never been unearthed. Because, advantaged by his position in the 'Commission to Preserve National Monuments', he had carried up to enlarge the protection area of miserable 20x60 meters, what once was the medieval town of Visoki, to an area more than half of the pyramid, what is more than three times of UNESCO's protection area of the center in Mostar (!), only with the aim to stop the research of the Bosnian pyramids.

It is useful to remind everybody, that the meeting of the Commission was held in May 2006 and the validity of the fixed norm was declared as retroactivly to March 2006. Why? Because, the Foundation started the excavations in April 2006. And look what for ironic circumstances, sixteen of the excavated probe-holes were suddenly located on the new enlarged protection area, in other words, all what have been excavated till then, including the stone blocks and walls of the 'Pyramid of the Sun'.

However, the Foundation continued with further excavations. This time on landplots of privat property located at the 'Bosnian Pyramid of the Moon' and inside the complex of underground tunnels. At that point, the Federal Minister of Culture entered the scene by asking to the Government of the ZEDO-canton to promptly stop the research.

So, after having failed the aim once again, another method was applied which consisted of lobbying the small archaeo-historical community of Bosnia and Herzegowina. Twentyone experts from different towns are signing the petition to stop the excavations at the 'Pyramid of the Sun' providing the 'alibi' that the medieval town of Visoki is in danger because of the ongoing excavations. But, those people were ignoring just 'one little point': The real reason of it's vanishing was caused by the carelessness of those who signed the petition.

The team of experts, which was formed by the Federal Ministry of Culture, accused in June 2006 for such shameful state the 'longtime carelessness of the competent and responsible institutions, even if those, had and still have particular decisional power to provide for the protection and maintenance of the whole cultural heritage, without undertaking adequate measures.'

After another unsuccessful attempt to stop the excavations, the following step consisted in exerting sustained pressure on the Foundation by moving the controversy on the international scene. The national archaeologists are doing a pact with the Europeans in order to promote another petition, having the same content, saying that somewhere in the Bosnian mountains a medieval town, an archaeological treasure, is getting destroyed. The petition is signed by experts, solidary with their colleagues from Sarajevo, but being clueless about the real situation and state of Bosnian Cultural Heritage.

The best part of this Recital was Mr. Harding's fifteen-minutes-visit to the Visoko valley, where he neglected, as President of the Europeam Association of Archaeologists, with his continuous diminishing statements that there's nothing.

From the other side, the Egyptian experts, Prof. Mohamed Ibrahim Aly, Dr. Aly Barakat and the egyptologist Lamiya El-Hadidi, after having studied carefully the whole location, declared that the findings are of very important archaeological importance. On the opposing side stands Mr. Harding, who leads the cabinet-experts who never visited the place of research and, with the advantage of their titles and positions they occupy, are declaring the opposite. Whom to believe?

We were very happy, when during spring 2006 the experts from the Faculty of Tuzla announced their participation at the project. And we were very embittered when they have visited the locaton before the excavations started, and refused to come once the first stone blocks have been uncovered. The bitter taste of their hasty report stating that all that is a geological 'natural' phenomena was contradicted by the active appearance of another institution from Tuzla, The Faculty of Construction (GIT), which presented the analysis of the stone blocks, coming to the cocnlusion that what they have examined is: 'Concrete Construction Material of Particular Quality'.

When President Tihic called UNESCO's experts to come in order to express their judgement about the existence of pyramids, tens of archaeo-politics from London and Boston, Zagreb and Sarajevo urgently requested to the UNESCO's Director-General Koïchiro Matsuura to stop the arrival of their experts.

They are affraid about what? Are they affraid about the material evidence that will make collapse their world views?

The Federal Government approved 50.000 KM for the research in year 2006, after the President and Ministers personally verified the fact that beneath the layers of dirt of the hills Visocica and Pljesevica are hidden huge stone constructions, made by humans, having the geometrical shape of pyramids. The example of Bosnian unicity emerged once again when the Federal Minister of Culture transferred the resources to the Cantonal Tourist Community, addressing them to another purpose, even in front of complaints by the local community. Later, in order to show his solidarity with his own group, the Minister asks to the Foundation to invite him officially to visit the location. After having received the invitation, he refused publically to come, and submitted a copy of his letter, to him favourable newspaper "Dani", for pubblication.

Only few times, and after sporadic tries, our discoveries have been opposed by different opinions as used in normal disputations. As for example, the theory of Prof. Imamovic and Stjepan Coric from Vienna, whom declared that the complex of underground tunnels which are connected to the pyarmids are mines dating from medieval times. I have to admit that such lovely statements can be easily contradicted. Experts from three mines, Zenica, Kakanj and Banovici, have laught about this hypothesis and declared that those aren't mines. Geologists and geophysicists from Bosnia and foreign countries confirmed that those tunnels are thousands of years old and of artificial origin.

The group of anti-pyramid opposers like Blagoje Govedarica, Zilka Kujundzic, Svetozar Pudaric, Mirko Babic, Gavrilo Grahovac, Ivan and Dubravko Lovrenovic, are working hard to debunk the pyramid research project, spreading voices that the project is supported only by 'Bosnian ambiences'. They are trying to destroy the project by transforming it in a sad story in three pieces about the Bosnian national and religious reality. Those persons intentionally ignore the fact that the Foundation always underlined that this project has nothing to do with single nations, religious beliefs, but that it belongs to an ancient past about which all should be proud off. Thus, becoming an integrative factor that should unite, not divide.

During the project presentation held in Switzerland in December 2006, in front of 1200 Bosnians, for the first time we've communicated how to read the volumetric formula of the 'Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun':

V = B x H / 3 Volume is equal to basement multiplied by three times the height divided three

We could explain it as:

V = B x H / 3 Visoko (V) is equal to Bosnia (B)and Herzegowina (H) with three folks


Also this year's end, is characterized by a holding up under pressure our research. The European Association, leaded by Mr.Harding, is attacking the Bosnian Government for its support to the project by allocating financial resources. Underlining the fact that the Governments Participation is only 10 percent, I tought it was just another joke of Mr. Harding. Only later, I've discovered that he proposed to allocate the Federal Budget of 300.000 KM to some sections of the 'Pyramid of the Sun' during 2007. It is evident that Prof. Harding is well informed about the future planned actions in B&H.

My proposal for the Bosnian archaeologists, the opposers of the project is the following:

if the Federal Parliament decides to dedicate 300.000 KM to the project, my wish is, that the entire amount will be given to the opposers leaded by Mrs. Zilka Kujundzic and Enver Imamovic, while the Foundation will continue to be financed exclusively through privat donations, by companies from B&H and or foreign countries or by sponsors. We also invite them to join the Foundation works in order to uncover the 'Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun'. Let's collaborate and connect the 'Foundation ABPS' with the 'Federal Commission to Preserve National Monuments', 'The National Museum of Bosnia and Herzergowina' in Sarajevo, 'The Homeland Museum' in Visoko, archaeologists and historians from the 'Faculty of Philospohy' in Sarajevo in order to work all together on the project. Let's spend part of that money for the reconstruction and protection of the old town Visoki, the Roman castle and Illyrian village beneath it, the area of the pyramid hill-top where all three archaeo-cultural remains are located. Of course, there's also located one of the pyramid entrances, where we will enter together.


Dear Professors, Museum Councillors, Members of Federal Committees and Journalists,

the pyramids will survive all of us. In One Hundred Years, nobody will remember our names. But, those collossal stone structures, located in the small, but proud country called Bosnia, will radiate a positive energy out into the world. Please, let me invite you once again to unite the modest Bosnian potentials, to combine our one's with those of our colleagues from Egypt, Malesia, Jordan, Croatia, Germany, Serbia and other countries into this research effort.

In five years, one million of tourists will visit the Bosnian Valley of Pyramids. Our wish is that Bosnia and Herzegowina becomes a lively place where explorers, students, professors, volunteers of lightened faces exchange their international scientific knowledge. Tourism will develop the market , the economy will raise and infrastructures will be build.

This is our chance.

Semir Osmanagic

P.S. I copied this info from here: http://www.piramidasunca.ba/eng/default.asp

[subgenius]

holy crap can you imagine the possible artifacts contained in this thing? think of the amazing tech that may be in there. doubt we would ever hear of that tho THIS IS DAMNED EXCITING WOW

[Moriani]

Quote:holy crap can you imagine the possible artifacts contained in this thing? think of the amazing tech that may be in there. doubt we would ever hear of that tho THIS IS DAMNED EXCITING WOW

Don't hold your breath. Whatever they don't want you to see will get hidden away in the basement of some univeristy somewhere. Of course, this guy doesn't seem to be with academic in-crowd, so maybe he'll be a little more forthcoming.

[waxzy]

12 March Tunnel excavation underway
http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News.html


Excavation work in the main KTK tunnel is progressing. The entrance to the tunnel is about 1km away from the Pyramid of the Sun on the bank of the river Bosnia. Local people are helping to excavate the tunnel and so far they have cleared 35m in the direction of the pyramid. Experts at the Foundation believe that the tunnel is the main entrance to the pyramid and that it is connected to other tunnels in the region. The Foundation believes it will take until the end of the year to clear the KTK tunnel into the pyramid. The tunnel is being secured with timber beams so that tourists can, at a future date, explore the tunnel themselves.

[FastTadpole]

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