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harflimon · 03-13-2007, 11:25 PM

I can usually judge people by their sig/avatar. It's usually a better source since it's at least them expressing themselves. Because you can't always control your age or occupation.

I'm 19 and I clean places. I doubt you could get as much out of that as you can from the one sentence in my sig and the fact that I'm not to be bothered with finding a good avatar. I let words not pictures do the talking.

I could pick out quite a few sigs I think show a level of ignorance, but I don't want to put anyone in the spotlight

mothandrust · 03-14-2007, 01:32 AM

great thread, thanks Yeti - no way you should be flamed. not that i agree with all your comments - just wanted to add my two penneth (at the risk of repeating others' comments).

perhaps first i should suggest Concen may be a victim of its own success. meaning, membership is going up and up and whilst those who found it in the early days were likely the sharpest and most inquiring, now, as word spreads, others, perhaps more prone to jumping on the bandwagon also join the fray. accepted this is a horrible generalisation (with which i condemn myself), but nevertheless i think it holds some truth.

with regard to spelling, grammar, etc. - i accept your frustration, i too find some posts confusing. but this is an international arena and sometimes english won't be a user's first language - or, their version of english may have different spellings or grammar rules (at least in terms of local slang).

ok, sometimes it means we are not quite sure of a point someone is making, but then it also means we have to think about it - and if not sure ask for explanation.

language used to be much more fluid before we could all read and write and everything was written down. with the written word and spelling/grammar rules language becomes rigid, controllable, and subject to authority.

Quote:I would have a lot more respect for the opinions of a 43 year old doctor or carpenter than I would for a those of a 15 year old student.

hmm...

Quote:I'm 19 and I clean places. I doubt you could get as much out of that as you can from the one sentence in my sig and the fact that I'm not to be bothered with finding a good avatar. I let words not pictures do the talking.

Quote:I can usually judge people by their sig/avatar. It's usually a better source since it's at least them expressing themselves. Because you can't always control your age or occupation.

I could pick out quite a few sigs I think show a level of ignorance, but I don't want to put anyone in the spotlight

i think you should be really careful with this - avatars are images people choose to represent themselves, sure, but it is their picture from their perception - you can only see it from your own perception, without knowing the history, culture, social influences that contribute to it

mothandrust · (This post was last modified: 03-14-2007 01:49 AM by mothandrust.)

oops - sorry, posted twice - see what fuckwits we have here these days

subgenius · (This post was last modified: 03-22-2007 07:58 AM by subgenius.)

great concept to bring up , and not that it is necessarily a critique of grammatical issues, but rather from what I can tell, a disappointment in a lack of critical( or cortical or cryptical?:) ) thinking . Or at least a lacking of basic awareness of conceptualization and how we can work our way through the bullshit around us effectively. I feel , as has been mentioned in many areas, that not all are on the same levels of "understanding" in their "incarnationsves/advancement/levels whatever you want to call it trying to avoid claptrap here..... so to me at least i hope that people will wake up a little faster and make things easier for us all . It is sad to think that many are unwilling/afraid to embrace even the the search. Frozen minds( or empty????). frost giants in need of thor's hammer..... reminds me of that saying to understand somebody put yourself in their shoes, but it sure seems that when you go and do that THERE'S NOTHING THERE! hahah

Moriani · 03-22-2007, 12:15 PM

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Quote:I can usually judge people by their sig/avatar. It's usually a better source since it's at least them expressing themselves. Because you can't always control your age or occupation.

I could pick out quite a few sigs I think show a level of ignorance, but I don't want to put anyone in the spotlight
i think you should be really careful with this - avatars are images people choose to represent themselves, sure, but it is their picture from their perception - you can only see it from your own perception, without knowing the history, culture, social influences that contribute to it

Good point.

Avatars may also represent people's alter-egos. There's nothing wrong with fantazising. In fact, as a PBS documentary illustrated, elementary school teachers who oppress and punish little boys for acting out "cowboys and injuns and cops and robbers" fantasies or who punish them for drawing and talking about death and violence may actually result in more violence, not reduce it.

MC David · 03-24-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote:WTF is wrong with us? Why is it that an embarrassing percentage of the posters here can't think clearly?

This site is dedicated to very serious topics. Why not then take your and others' postings seriously?

Why is it that a huge percentage of posters here can't even string a proper sentence together? Forget about the unbelievably bad spelling issues - that's just nitpicking (maybe). It reflects on you anyway, and is hard to read. It's just another indicator that you haven't even bothered to spell check - let alone think things out before you puke them into cyberspace.

I'm way too experienced to think that I can demand that others improve their quality of thought and effort. I know that they have to figure it out themselves. They have to want to do it. They have to realise that it's important. Some never will. Some will never care.

It probably boils down to the atrocious state of public education. Man, I thought I got shortchanged on my education! I never thought I'd see such a huge dumbing down so quickly, but I'm witnessing it right now, right here, in this particular subset of humanity - arguably the smartest (certainly the most curious) people out there. This isn't freakin' American Idol, people! You know that, and that's why you're here.

I'm just saying that people should take a little more pride in what they post. They should try to make the best effort possible to make their point. Think. Think twice. Write. Edit. Think thrice. Edit again. Then post. When people read it, they'll think you got it right the first time! Take pride in what you say. It's YOU. It's how people judge you.

This site is a treasure trove of the most relevent and timely topics out there - and also the heaviest. It's not a game - but you knew that.

Lately I've read a few very disturbing threads by absolutely clueless people - it's like they're brainwashed. It's like this place is one giant recruiting ground for cult leaders! Some of you aren't even close to being able to think critically. How many of you are aware that even theology schools teach critical thinking? How the hell are you supposed to help defeat the bastards that are trying to enslave you when you can't even understand what's going on under your nose?

There is a lot of information out there on how to think critically. When absorbing most of the material on this site, it's pretty important to know how to do that, otherwise you might go insane. There are people around here going freakin' loopy right now. In maybe 5% of the cases, it's pure brain chemical imbalance. In most of the rest, it's lack of ability to comprehend their surroundings.

I know I'm going to get in a lot of shit over this, and I'm ready for it. Please understand that I don't want to offend anybody. The last thing I want to do is be like the nitpicking teachers I had that stifled my free thoughts in school - but I sound like them.

The ones that took the time to criticise my work were actually trying to help me, although I didn't know it at the time. They cared, but sometimes I resented it. I learned the hard way too. Some of you around here have never had that. Sad.

Thank you for reading this far.

Just think of this post as a (Nerf) kick in the ass... unless you're already a freakin' infallible genius, in which case, Shine On! :grin:

P.S: I'm probably going to get hate mail from the very people who need to take my words to heart. The rest of you need no kicks...

If you truly feel this way the proper response is to either offer something better or STFU. And this is hardly something better. I've never really seen any good threads or posts from you and you don't hear me whining about it, and that's not even out of spite I'm just being honest.

***Shinobi*** · 03-24-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:Im a propagandist and very frustrated I have no man.

I knew it!

mothandrust · 03-25-2007, 02:54 AM

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Quote:Im a propagandist and very frustrated I have no man.

I knew it!

oh fuck!.... thought i'd deleted that :blush::blush:

yeti · 03-25-2007, 07:26 AM

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Quote:WTF is wrong with us? Why is it that an embarrassing percentage of the posters here can't think clearly?

This site is dedicated to very serious topics. Why not then take your and others' postings seriously?
If you truly feel this way the proper response is to either offer something better or STFU. And this is hardly something better.

That's your opinion, which you are entitled to. Others obviously don't share it. Maybe you should take your own advice, hmm?

I definitely offer something better than the posts I'm criticising. Do you see any errors in spelling, grammar, or critical thinking in my posts? If, so, please point them out. I like constructive criticism. Telling someone to STFU is not constructive criticism, but you knew that...

Quote:I've never really seen any good threads or posts from you and you don't hear me whining about it, and that's not even out of spite I'm just being honest.

You're whining about it right now, and that's not even out of spite. I'm just being honest.

pursuitofliberty · 04-16-2007, 01:10 AM

thx 4 the post. The desire to express my thoughts rapidly is usually where I get into trouble without editing. IM & txt messaging isn't helping anything. Nothing wrong w/ the modern collapse of the English language! Who needs words when we can create new ones. hell, Shakespeare did it! (who ever "he" is)

lol
brb
ttyl
bffl

it's just modern Ebonics yo!