Is Aj The Mouthpiece For The Truth Movement?

[shZ]

Quote:Has anyone looked at the Vid yet?

@Tkra
Come on buddy, the vatican, :biggrin: yeah right
How holds all the Vatican money, who is their Number one banker?

The old video showing 3 catholic priests in a little rubber boat throwing holy water on the USS Liberty, hoping to sink it was definately an eye-opener for me:crazy:

LOL, no, not yet, but I'll take a look at 'em.

[harmonius]

At least they mention the fed. But who knew that it was opec petro dollars being siphoned back to the fed for lending. I guess no zionist bankers were involved. Back to the drawing board. Oh well:unsure:

At least they said the good ol USA is on a collision course with economic meltdown.


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[ephilution]

Quote:Here's your global warming:

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However, in the table shown above, 1999 had moved into 3rd place (in the 20th century standings) in USHCN V1 and then continued its retrospective advance up the league table by vaulting into 2nd place in USHCN V2 Beta. And to think that only 7 years, it ranked in 10th place.

Thanks for the info but if you seek to convince me of the actuality of global warming then save it, you don't have to as I am already pretty convinced of that.

What is the more pertinent question is what is the cause of global warming? If you read my statement carefully you should be able to observe that I was asking this type of question indeed.

Anyway, I am not at all convinced that global warming basically is caused by humanly produced carbon-dioxide emissions. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the concept of a polluting oil-based engine as much as your regular environmental activist, but that is not the issue here. What is the issue is that the peoples of the world are being prepared for the introduction of yet another form of taxation (perhaps in the guise of steep increases of fuel prices). The basis for which is being laid by the usual mixture of manipulation and deception instead of the only ethical acceptable virtues of honesty and rationality.

[Ognir]

Talk about going off topic, I was hoping to hear more about the Jesuit priests that attacked the USS Liberty:rofl:

[ephilution]

Quote:Has anyone looked at the Vid yet?

@Tkra
Come on buddy, the vatican, :biggrin: yeah right
How holds all the Vatican money, who is their Number one banker?

The old video showing 3 catholic priests in a little rubber boat throwing holy water on the USS Liberty, hoping to sink it was definately an eye-opener for me:crazy:

Go ahead Og give it a satirical spin why don't you... :biggrin:

There is such a thing as proxy agents you know...

Anyway, I've seen the vid and given that it is mainstream production it wasn't that terrible, relatively speaking of course. Compared to true alternative media productions it is way below acceptability.

The feeling I never seem to be able to shake of watching mainstream prods is the ever condescending and belittling attitude towards those who engage in what they, at best, would dub 'fringe' journalism, namely the kind that basically criticizes the employers of the patronizers. This show was no different although apparently it was permitted to lift the veil a little higher than usual which made it more bearable to watch IMO. :smile:

[rockclimber]

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I'm going to highlight this little quote again just to make it clear that Alex Jones does set himself up as the Internet leader in activist media, as well as the Grandfather of the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Hell, ConCen is probably a better source of activist media and we're not afraid to talk about Zionism here.

No were not afraid to talk about Zionism, and I hope most are adult enough to hear me out without having a fit here:

For a guy who is referred, and refers to himself as fearless and courageous, he is anything but that. In fact I will take it a step further: he's a gatekeeper. He wants the story to move in his direction only. I took the same attitude as others for quite a long while, AJ did not want to talk about Israel/Zionism for fear of being labeled. I defended him tooth and nail and many of you long timers know that. In fact, let me back up. At first, because of religious reasons and ignorance, I thought the claim that the Zionists/Israel were involved was preposterous and blasphemy. As an "enlightened" 9-11 researcher, I just knew that our 'best friend' and 'chosen people' could do no such thing. However, after carefully researching the facts from both political/religious I have now done a 180.

For those of you who will say I have a bias against AJ, yes perhaps I do and I can explain it. To begin with I find him suspicious, but let me start by saying this: If I give you 90% good info and 10% disinfo, doesn't that still make me a liar?
I am now convinced that only a fool would doubt that the Zionists were behind 9-11 (and countless other conspiracies-see Zionist section). And to that I challenge everyone to watch Ry Dawson's 'PNAC 911 All roads lead to Israel' for starters. It's on the tracker and it's available on video.google.com. Ry provides nothing but the facts-straight up. Now then, take a giant step back after watching it and connect the dots. It will all begin to make sense. Back to AJ. The first thing that pissed me off was the fact that he shifts the blame away from Israel to America after they bombed the ever loving shit out of the U.S.S. Liberty. I argue that LBJ was about as compromised a President as this country has ever had, and I believe the Mossad had plenty of dirt on the guy. So yes, a cover-up was ordered and it was an amazing thing to cover up. If you haven't watched the U.S.S. Liberty documentary, I highly suggest it. You will know who is to blame in the end, and AJ dumbs it down by blaming LBJ. If you want to know how powerful Zionist Israel is, I refer you to the AIPAC documentary pinned in the Zionist section or Video Google Paul Findley Dare to Speak Out, a very sincere man with a shining career in politics with not an ounce of racism in him. He is just telling it like it is.

Another thing Alex does is he completely avoids the Zionist connection and often obfuscates the connection/facts. Ok, you can argue that he has mentioned them from time to time, but he has NEVER, EVER, dedicated an entire "show" or "program" to his audience tying in their complicity. In his earlier shows after 9-11 he was a bit more bold. And I always catch him saying that "yes Israel was involved but so are the freemasons, the satanists, the bilderbergs, the TC, CFR, New World Order etc., etc., etc. when after examining the evidence Israel imho, had a HUGE hand in the conspiracy. Was Cheney and Rummy involved? Yes, but they are treasonous greedwhores with no loyalty to America anyway. One gives you Haliburton and FEMA Camps and purposeless wars, the other gives you Aspartame, Tamiflu and purposeless wars. I rest my case. Totally corrupt and compromised individuals and useful idiots for the Zionists. Alex has to know these facts, he absolutely does in my opinion.

So if you conclude that Alex doesn't want to move in that direction because he will be labeled anti-semite and will be shutdown and not taken seriously, than that's your business, and if he could stop there with that though I could halfway understand it. But the bottom line is he lies and obfuscates the facts, and he does not deserve to be labeled fearless and courageous.

Has he been compromised? Has he received a death threat? Only Alex knows, but he does have alliances with many shady groups with Zionist connections as well, and they all deny a Zionist connection.

All IMHO of course.

I'm still watching the content you mentioned at first before continueing with the rest of your post. Just finished Ry Dawson's 'PNAC 911 All roads lead to Israel' and am trying to find Paul Findley's "Dare to Speak Out." I see it's a book, but understood that there's a video as well? It's not on google that I can see.

The Ry Dawson vid was great - the only thing for me is that I'm left with the impression that the evil doesn't go much deeper than the current administration or criminals currently living in and around the white house. In this regard it reminded me of when I used to listen daily to Randi Rhodes on Air America - many of the same connections and individuals, just sans the word 'zionism.' Personally I don't find an issue reconciling AJ with the Zionist-focused, and enjoy being exposed to both. I'm an AJ fan, and also understand what Ry says in his vid when he writes:

"I want to say that I like Alex Jones for the most part. I ignore some of his wilder religiously slanted ideas. But he predicted 911 happening! However he is way off on many things. For example parroting Russian Oligarchs and practically ignoring Israel."

My final thought is that the people who study and listen to this stuff (you, me, the board, GCN audience, etc.) are so incredibly excluded from the actual halls of power, and I'm afraid to say so small in number that it's ridiculous. No laws are getting repealed - it's all just going in one direction. Anyone who effectively gets the average person to become aware that the establishment is the bad guy is alright. There's room for all types. People interested in going further will eventually find people like Abrahamson and Ry Dawson like I just did (via you - thanks).

Much appreciate Henry, your a smart guy, just keep digging. Trust me, you will find so many connections. Look at who controls our media, hollywood, publishing companies, banking, started communism and financed it, dominates the CFR, the list goes on and on and on and it's not hard to connect. I was appalled when I started making these connections. And I always have to state this: I love all races and that includes the Jewish people. I am just sick and tired of corrupt mofos and have a hard on for all those who were involved in 9-11 (not a literal hard-on people, it's a figure of speech). It's the one big thing that if we press for the names of those involved would be the crime of the century and would start a snowball effect. America has many faults and many horrendous politicians and leaders, but were not alone and never were. Yes there are many other names and they all have a financial or political interest in a NWO. But Og and I agree about who is at the top.

Also, I'm sure you know that those few people around the white house have dual loyalties and that gives it a lot more depth. When you consider the spying, AIPAC among other things, you start to see how this get's into even deeper shit.

I feel your frustration as well. "They" are running right over us big time.

[harmonius]

Quote:Talk about going off topic, I was hoping to hear more about the Jesuit priests that attacked the USS Liberty:rofl:

A little joke...

Quote:One day a local pastor was visiting the home of some parishioners who had a teenage son. The parents were worried about what career their son would choose, so the pastor said he had a simple test that could predict what would become of him.

He would put three objects on a table and let the young man choose whichever one he wanted to have: a Bible, a wallet, and a bottle of scotch. If the boy chose the Bible, he would probably become a priest; if he chose the wallet, he'd be a banker; and if he chose the bottle, he'd become a worthless bum.

So the parents called their son into the room, and the pastor told him he could have whichever object he wished. When the boy promptly picked up all three, the pastor cried out, "Heaven forbid! He's going to be a Jesuit!"

:D

More here: http://catholic-resources.org/JesuitJokes.htm


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