Please give me evidence....

[Soul Real]

I keep seeing certain people bring up zionism over and over as well as accuse others of being zionists. I am a bit confused what zionism has to do with the majority of the stuff we chat about on here so I would like to open up some dialog and truly understand this prospective. Any takers? Do not send me to websites nor post from articles at length. I have read many of them and most make no sense at all much less answer my questions.

[MC David]

What's the majority of stuff we chat about on here that doesn't relate to it?

[Guest]

R U O K?

[Soul Real]

I am fine,why? Do I seem upset? I just want to understand what that claim is all about. I mean, I read articles that make some good points and I do see the effect of it but how is it the end all? I see the world being effected by all kinds of factions but how is Zionism worse than those Muslims that want control of the world or illuminists or anything else? Are Zionists in control and if so, please explain to me how? I just really don't understand these things. What does Zionism have to do with 9-11 for example? Everytime I see somebody post something about it I just get like,,, :eyebrow:

[FighterFromAfar]

PNAC = Neocons = Zionists. "New Pearl Harbor"

Urban Moving Systems truck caught with a bomb headed toward Washington St. Bridge. Turns out to be Mossad agents.

Report of a car bomb going off in the basement of one of the WTC towers. Connection?

What better way to plant explosives in the WTC than with Moving Vans?

Reports of construction in nearby offices heard by employees days before 9/11, near one of the sky lobbies.

Who benefits from 9/11? Larry Silverstein, Zionist. Image of Muslims as the enemy gets reinforced, Americans support Israel even more.

Benjamin Netanyahu's initial reaction to 9/11:

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html


It's pretty clear-cut to me that Israel and Zionists were heavily involved in 9/11.

[stanteau]

Alright, as someone who didn't buy the "Zionist plot" for a long time, I'll try to make it relative.

I used to shrug it off as a plan to make us all real racist, and at the end of the day that's what it is, just another front, but since the late 1940's the American military has been influenced heavily by lobbyists and representatives from Israel, and as the previous poster mentioned the involvement of Israeli intelligence in many terrorist attacks are quite embarrasing for the country. http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm check it out.

the Israeli country has been founded, funded, supported, and used by the aforementioned "neocon" agenda which could be a front for a number of oddities, and through swift political moves such as the alleged holocaust exaggeration/false-flag setup to create international sympathy, or the simple banking families connections though these banking families have Jesuit, corporate, Skull and Bones, Freemasonic, Rosicrucian, etc. connections too, its one of many fronts.

2 cents

[hammer]

Quote:PNAC = Neocons = Zionists. "New Pearl Harbor"

Urban Moving Systems truck caught with a bomb headed toward Washington St. Bridge. Turns out to be Mossad agents.

Report of a car bomb going off in the basement of one of the WTC towers. Connection?

What better way to plant explosives in the WTC than with Moving Vans?

Reports of construction in nearby offices heard by employees days before 9/11, near one of the sky lobbies.

Who benefits from 9/11? Larry Silverstein, Zionist. Image of Muslims as the enemy gets reinforced, Americans support Israel even more.

Benjamin Netanyahu's initial reaction to 9/11:

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html


It's pretty clear-cut to me that Israel and Zionists were heavily involved in 9/11.

Five dancing Israelis,odigo messages to Israeli natinoals.

[Ognir]

18th Century (Take over of the Bank of England)

1897 Official meeting of the Zionists in Basel Switzerland

1905 The Protocols appear in English (100 year plan officially launched)

1913 Federal Reserve Act (America sold out)

1915 Armenain Genocide (Young Turks)

1916 World War 1 (Financed both sides)

1917 The Blafour Declaration (Letter sent to Lord Rothschild)

1917 Russian Revolution (98% of so called Russian leaders were Jewish on the first council)

1919 Versailles Peace Treaty (Made German pay) 320 Zionists present

1929 The Great Drepression (Bankers aka Jewish bankers reduced the money supply)

1933 Judea Declares war on Germany

1939 World War 2 (Financed both sides)

1941 Forced the Americans to join the war

1942 Prescott Bush fined $2m for helping, supplying and financing the Nazi

1948 Terrorist state formed

Let's add about who controls and own the media (papers, tv etc) in the US/world

[MC David]

Quote:Alright, as someone who didn't buy the "Zionist plot" for a long time, I'll try to make it relative.

I used to shrug it off as a plan to make us all real racist, and at the end of the day that's what it is, just another front

No I wouldn't say so, it's more like they try to marry racism with it when it's a racist agenda itself, in order to justify it & the notion that anyone who criticizes the Zionist is doing so out of hatred rather than desire for justice. & a lot of people do end up leaning towards that direction out of resentment of the atroscities commited & the persecution of the system which in turn stimulates fear in the rank & file Jews who turn to their Zionist leadership for protection, who are actually secretly plotting against them the whole time & keeping this whole manipulation going earning tons of power & profit. It's not always just our naivity the elite exploit, it's often also people's shortcomings & their own immorality that can be used against them.

[MC David]

Quote:I am fine,why? Do I seem upset? I just want to understand what that claim is all about. I mean, I read articles that make some good points and I do see the effect of it but how is it the end all? I see the world being effected by all kinds of factions but how is Zionism worse than those Muslims that want control of the world or illuminists or anything else? Are Zionists in control and if so, please explain to me how? I just really don't understand these things. What does Zionism have to do with 9-11 for example? Everytime I see somebody post something about it I just get like,,, :eyebrow:

You should read every article on here. You can skip the rest of the stuff on that page if you're just curious about 9/11 read from the Bollyn section. I think you'll find that the Zionist involvement is central in 9/11. I know you said not to link to any articles but seriously that's kind of lame. These articles are pretty clearly & simply written out so you won't have much difficulty understanding them. BTW I can't believe you study Freemasonry yet the subject of Zionism has never come up for you, the two are interconnected.

[Rod]

Quote:You should read every article on here. You can skip the rest of the stuff on that page if you're just curious about 9/11 read from the Bollyn section. I think you'll find that the Zionist involvement is central in 9/11. I know you said not to link to any articles but seriously that's kind of lame. These articles are pretty clearly & simply written out so you won't have much difficulty understanding them. BTW I can't believe you study Freemasonry yet the subject of Zionism has never come up for you, the two are interconnected.

That site is an interesting read, The Wing TV stuff is really thought provoking. Even AJ dismisses that site, reading articles like those really puts critical thinking skills to the test (Its kinda fun sifting through all the crap one seems to acquire over time), never a dull moment it seems.

[Guest]

Quote:What does Zionism have to do with 9-11 for example?

Well, you know as well as I that 911 has been the justification for bombing two countries (so far) back into the stone age. Bush has in the past spoken of invading Iran of course, but ALSO Syria in the past.

Do you think it's mere coincidence that every country to be invaded in the middle east is an enemy of Israel?
It would seem somebody's doing Israel's bidding.