Radio ConCen 16th Sept 2007 (2 Shows)

[solar]

I was playing one of the shows through the speakers when a friend came over.:)

She exclaimed: "That radio announcer has a million dollar voice !!" :o

Quote:Cool it seems my Mum likes my shows as well

Damn she must have forgotten the black helicopters :LOL:

But next April ...

... you will not forget her birthday !! (at this link) :D

Plan now !;)

[Hei Hu Quan]

Ephilution, sorry to hear of your illness and I'm glad to see you are battling back from it. I do appreciate the fervour and sincerity in your pursuit of truth. I am an investigator and researcher and this all is a work in progress that has at its core deciphering fact from fantasy, disinfo from truth and sifting obfuscated or fragmented evidence. This is a daunting task that requires much energy devoted to winding it out in a coherent form of logic, the depth and core of an iceberg. Often we are like blind men each attempting to describe an elephant to others. We may focus on parts of the organism as if they are the organism itself. Though my tone may seem a bit aggro, my intent is actually to work progressively with fellow ConCen members in discerning the truth no matter where it takes me or us as the case may be.

Quote:Also, if the Catholic Church was so unimportant and insignificant then why were there Concordats established between the Papacy and Nazi Germany, Spain and Italy? Why did Hitler call Himmler his own Ignatius of Loyola? Why did Cecil Rhodes model his Round Table group after the Jesuit Order? And how would you explain the rat-lines that were set up after the second world war to facilitate the extraction of Nazi top officials and scientists to the US using the Vatican escape routes? Also why were the Jesuits instrumental in the capacity of the Ustache cutthroat thugs in the Croatian Holocaust immediately after the second world war in which more than 1 million orthodox Christian Serbs were slaughtered? Why was the Temple Mount deeded to the Vatican in 1993? Why are every so often important community leaders from whatever nationality invited over for tea with the Pope?

They call, what I have dubbed, the IllumiNazis a pyramid structure. However I actually believe it to be more of a concentric circle of hierarchy, with groups created to protect and facilitate the central core. Follow the money is absolutely imperative to any active investigation of criminal activity, and one that I've used to render my findings on Zionist control. Are the Zionists the absolute core of all this, and can I say it conclusively? For now, they are at the top of the cabal of elite criminal engineers until I find evidence to the contrary.

The questions that I offer that I believe strike at the heart of the questions rendered in your post are:

1) What group was the ultimate source of funding that created Hitler and the Nazi's?

2) Who are the parties responsible for funding Oppenheimer, Cecil Rhodes and in turn the Anglo American operations?

Was the Catholic church and Jesuit order behind the scenes facilitating subterfuge, and a measure of operational control? Yes, but as a component of the the infrastructure and not the central leadership. We are dealing with a conglomeration of gangsters, and their particular gangs that all work together under a central command. Much like the pieces of a chess board, you have many different components that protect "the King". You have the pawns who are the compromised masses and footsoldiers, the Bishops that represent religious power vested in the flavours of the church. Then you have the Knights which are the intelligence community; the Rooks, comprise the military and law-enforcement, and the Queen is the secret inner circle of finance. The King stands either as undefined, or encompasses the embodiment of the whole hierarchy.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws" so sayeth the piper that calls the tune Meyer Amschel Rothschild. Not just a saying, but a historical implementation that we have suffered greatly through since cursed with their appearance.

[TeslaandLyne]

Quote:I am not quite insulted to begin with but I´m particularly not insulted because you articulate a different opinion than I do. What upsets me though is of some people's tendency to brush off the Vatican's power simply because they cannot imagine old farts dressed up like women running anything of significance. It is ignorance and bigotry that upsets me not difference of opinion. And as far as I've come across, attempts to discard the Vatican´s power are based on sheer denial or ridicule rather than reason. Having quite some appreciation for the scientific method myself, I cannot bring myself to be able to lend credence to refutations based on nothing more than ignorance, denial and ridicule.

A low level 'old fart' you might say, taught High School Physics with some inside
Illuminati knowledge not in the books at the time... had the cone Tesla coil as well.

You might ignore the aether or non standard science of Lyne, but I have heard them before.
The cone Tesla coil was a clever Tesla device and being actually a flat coil raised in the
center windings. Horizontal electric and magnetic fields being stronger in the true flat coil.

I hardly think Vatican has power over the hidden energy science any more but the Jacob's Ladder
is truly a rip off of Tesla technology.


ED:

Quote:Also, if the Catholic Church was so unimportant and insignificant then why were there Concordats established between the Papacy and Nazi Germany, Spain and Italy? Why did Hitler call Himmler his own Ignatius of Loyola? Why did Cecil Rhodes model his Round Table group after the Jesuit Order? And how would you explain the rat-lines that were set up after the second world war to facilitate the extraction of Nazi top officials and scientists to the US using the Vatican escape routes? Also why were the Jesuits instrumental in the capacity of the Ustache cutthroat thugs in the Croatian Holocaust immediately after the second world war in which more than 1 million orthodox Christian Serbs were slaughtered? Why was the Temple Mount deeded to the Vatican in 1993? Why are every so often important community leaders from whatever nationality invited over for tea with the Pope?

Evil groups followed the structure for a different purpose.
Early group structures worked for the common good.

Early Christians were rejected by the Jewish priests and thrown out of the synagogues,
so they did not work for the common good of a rejected religion.. but keep more
of the bible.

[Rod]

Quote:I actually believe it to be more of a concentric circle of hierarchy, with groups created to protect and facilitate the central core.

This is how Fritz Springmeyer put it, and it seems to explain some of the lose ends, at least on the religious end.

[Ognir]

Solar consider yourself banned for reminding me abt my Mum's birthday thread :biggrin:

[solar]

Quote:Solar consider yourself banned for reminding me abt my Mum's birthday thread:D

[Ognir]

:biggrin:

[ephilution]

Quote:They call, what I have dubbed, the IllumiNazis a pyramid structure. However I actually believe it to be more of a concentric circle of hierarchy, with groups created to protect and facilitate the central core. Follow the money is absolutely imperative to any active investigation of criminal activity, and one that I've used to render my findings on Zionist control. Are the Zionists the absolute core of all this, and can I say it conclusively? For now, they are at the top of the cabal of elite criminal engineers until I find evidence to the contrary.

I agree that it is important to follow the money in case of any organized criminal act. But here's the problem I'm having. How do you know that the money is, in fact, at the place where your research leads you to? Do you have complete and transparent access to all (Swiss) bank accounts registering all made transactions? How do can you be sure that the destination you are able to trace it back to is in fact the final destination? What if private banks with non-transparent (Swiss) bank accounts are involved? How do you go from there?

Picture being one of those high level powerful criminals. Wouldn't you go out of your way to make sure that you successfully cover all your tracks of the crimes committed? With the severity of the crimes perpetrated I know I would and I would make sure that I would set up organizations or proxies who, through financial compensation and power, would willingly bear the brunt of criminal persecution if things should be blown out into the open. It is not for nothing that Alan Watt calls the chief Elite, the Lazy Boys, for the obvious reason of not having to get their hands dirty and can be satisfied with giving orders that trickle down the hierarchy into realization.

Quote:Was the Catholic church and Jesuit order behind the scenes facilitating subterfuge, and a measure of operational control? Yes, but as a component of the the infrastructure and not the central leadership.

I am not disputing that indeed. The Jesuits constitute a military order and can as such be considered an army with the aim of military conquest. The question to ask then is, who ultimately commands the army? The Jesuit General is indeed a commander but is he also the supreme commander?

[Hei Hu Quan]

I'm open to compiling any information in the pursuit of the root of this infernal tree and all of its filth encrusted branches. So I believe we are in total accord on this much, correct? How and where we proceed is just refining methodology and applications and distilling the results into a cogent, factual whole.