Paleocontact Theory

[mfluder]

Anyone here think human evolution may have started with extraterrestrial contact? Studying ancient Sumerian mythology, particularly the Anunnaki, suggests the jump from hunter-gatherer societies to the organized city-states of Sumer were brought about by knowledge from the sky. Out-of-place artifacts would also support this claim.

[Nyte]

I do

[stanteau]

Quote:Anyone here think human evolution may have started with extraterrestrial contact? Studying ancient Sumerian mythology, particularly the Anunnaki, suggests the jump from hunter-gatherer societies to the organized city-states of Sumer were brought about by knowledge from the sky. Out-of-place artifacts would also support this claim.

I think the proof of the ancient races is pretty substantial, same with ancient technology, but then I ran into a guy named Michael Heiser and he provides substantial evidence debunking Sitchin's ancient astronaut theory here.

I find some severe problems with the alien story, the biggest being the possibility of traveling between solar systems. I think that to master light-speed travel is to master time-travel (for more info just look up how speed affects time, I suggest Michio Kaku's Hyperspace), now, if a set of beings could do these feats you just enter into all kinds of weird fallacy arguments such as if "they" are "aliens" and "they" traveled here using "propulsion" based crafts then "they" have mastered "time travel" and if this is the case why didn't "they" go back in time and fix their mistakes?

The other possibility is a wormhole which again, the idea of a craft surviving a wormhole is pretty out there.

Nibiru offers a nice alternative, that "they" simply had to fly down from a passing planet to get here but refer back to Michael Heiser's work for more about how Nibiru, in all likelihood, is a monumental fraud, or at least a misunderstanding.

Throw into this the various accusations that Sitchin is a cointelpro and Paul Lynne's work (which is up for free at scribd.com) in which he accuses Sitchin (and many other "translators") of being part of a "Project Bluebeam" type society to help usher in the next false religion (and possible fake revelation/UFO Invasion) and you have yourself a hodgepodge of whothefuckknows.

Just more thoughts.

[drew hempel]

Here's Sitchin against Michael Cremo and both are wrong:



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchi...chin_4.htm

[polluxlm]

I think the case for this scenario is very strong. It's not just Sumerian, it's pretty much all ancient socities. They all talk about 'gods from the heavens' and so forth.

The fact that Sitchin may be a shill actually strengthens this argument. Like they say, best way to conceal something is to just let it out in the open. Then it looses it's mystery and interest.

[triplesix]

I agree. You would think ancient societies would have varying legends concerning their gods. Instead, you almost consistently hear of beings from the sky, with varying degrees of "godliness." Wouldn't you expect some to believe their gods lived in the center of a nearby mountain, or underwater, or underground, or anywhere else that would seem unreachable to them? What is it about the sky? Why do ancient frescos show people flying around inside stars and shite?

Personally I find it to be very likely. I'm torn between two theories: entheogen intellect evolution, or alien genetic manipulation. Hallucinations and shit could lead to all sorts of stories, and also expansion of the primitive mind. There's good evidence for many religious stories to be the result or an allegory for psychedelic consumption. But there's also good evidence for alien technology. I loved reading chariots of the gods, even if it was a bit lacking in a lot of information. More than anything it just gets you to ask new questions. Must read; even if you don't "believe."

My two cents.

[Blueku]

Well I'm not trying to offend, but "TIME" is NON EXSISTANT! You cannot time travel people! You can "VIEW" into the past and thats it, the future hasn't happen there for it has no "REAL" presence! Time is simply a way for people to describe the distance between "events". Note events is a very loose term for a reason. Time is a constant, but the unit of measure for time isn't, just like in measurements in distance. *ex mile vs km. Time is just merely the simpliest way to describe an occurance of an event and it's surroundings and happinings.

So as to your master time travel, I find that irrelevant in my opinion. Now I have to agree with drew a little here because if we evolved out of the crap that is on this earth, then you'd think by now we would have a better understanding of our natural biology. But we don't, and why is that? Well, simple awnser is to say that the primortal soup that created the first organism that produced a DNA strain that would relate to human evolution is missing. So if it's not anywhere to be found, that means we are looking in the wrong place and there's alot of space out there. But the reason I say I agree alittle is because of the possiblity that human evolution has carried on for so long that the DNA has become so dispaired with the original mother strain/s, so that still leaves it open for debate.