Now passengers need ID to travel within Britain

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Now passengers need ID to travel within Britain
By JASON LEWIS -Last updated at 00:49am on 18th November 2007

Passengers on domestic flights and ferries between mainland Britain and Northern Ireland will be required to carry identity papers for the first time from next year.

The move will effectively establish a highly controversial internal border within the UK and could pave the way for identity checks on all domestic flights and ferries in Britain.

Once operational, the system will allow the police to build up a complete picture of passenger movements between Ulster and the mainland.


Surveillance: Ferries crossing the Irish Sea will be checked

And it will enable them to carry out background checks to identify suspected criminals and potential terrorists.

The move comes as police and security services are pushing for wider access to information on passenger movements within Britain, whether by air, sea or national rail and coach networks.

Last night, Unionists said the proposals were tantamount to treating people from the Province as "second-class citizens".

Under the new system, personal information given by a passenger when purchasing a ticket will be checked on police computers looking for possible suspects.

Travellers will also be required to produce a valid passport or driving licence to buy a ticket.

The system is similar to that already in place to check those travelling to and from Britain on international flights and allows intelligence services to "profile" suspects, looking for patterns of criminal behaviour.

The Home Office last night confirmed the measures would be introduced next year using a so-called "statutory instrument" signed off by Home Secretary-Jacqui Smith, without the need for a full debate in the Commons.

The Government said the move will enforce powers included in the Police and Justice Act 2006 which allows officers to monitor all "flights and voyages" starting in the UK.

An "impact assessment" document on the plans said discussions were taking place with travel companies about the possibility of delays being caused as the information is collected.

The Home Office publication, written last year, also said the "rationale" behind the system is to provide the police with "essential intelligence".

It stated: "It is often the case that domestic travel forms part of a journey beginning or ending overseas.

"For example, having arrived in the Republic or Northern Ireland from overseas, terrorist targets may then use domestic air and sea routes for travel to...the UK mainland."

"The lack of data on the domestic leg of such journeys creates a critical gap in the intelligence picture."

MP Jeffrey Donaldson, of the Democratic Unionist Party, said the proposals were an "outrage".

He said: "It treats the people of Northern Ireland as second-class citizens and if it goes ahead it will be challenged in the courts.

"We are as concerned about our security as anyone else in the United Kingdom but these measures should be put in place on the land border with the Irish Republic."

Tony Bunyan, of civil liberties organisation Statewatch, said: "The Government is using the fear of terrorism to build up an apparatus of far-ranging social control that allows them to build up a complete picture of our lives."

Former Europe Minister Keith Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs select committee, which is carrying out an inquiry into the "Surveillance Society", last night said he would raise the issue with Ministers next week.

He said: "This is a civil liberties issue. It needs to be debated fully by Parliament."

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[DJOldskool]

The Control Grid is starting to form, I fear it wont be toomany more years before total control is in place

[ploder]

The sad fact is that most people won't raise any objections because of all the high profile media 'events' we've been having about illegal immigration. Problem --->Reaction----->Solution.

[Guest]

The fact that it will, in many cases, actually prevent uk nationals leaving the country would be a good angle for civil rights groups to counter state propaganda.

[infamouskiller]

Big deal Feb 19th 2008 the us government internal passport law goes into effect.All USA citezens have to have a US government approved boarding pass.If you are denied you can not travel on any public transportation service anywhere in the united states.

TSA new law passed Augest 24. 2007

Soon this hits home in what 8 weeks this should wake up alot sheeple.
I personally can't wait for it. To see the choas this creates.

Violant criminals drug offences and the 1 million list of do not flyers is the firsts lists for people to be denied.

How long till the mentally ill are denied service.

Oh if your thinking screw em I have my car.

Real ID act has GPS tracking.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_...0070220/127959/

This is Fake Phsy op



1970's technology.

This is Modern the size of a grain of sand is that Dirt or and RFID GPs track chip?







TSA LAW heres a screen shot of the law PDF I have some youtube videos on it as well and links to the law pdf on:

http://www.youtube.com/infamouskiller [UNDER NEW NAZI LAW] In video descript.




The new RFID is in your clothes shaving cream cars etc.

It could be the dot on the i on your real ID card you would never know embedded in the plastic behind the magnetic strip.

[eyeland]

I was stopped and questioned in my home town the other day for dropping a cigarette butt on the street.They asked me for my personal details and I refused.

One of the two uniformed enslavers got so mad that he ran over to a police car that was parked up nearby and got them to come over to intimidate me into complying.

Unfortunately I was Christmas shopping with my mother and she got a bit scared and asked me to comply.Regretfully I did.

They couldn't find me on their system even though I'd given the right info. While we were all stood there waiting for confirmation from their H.Q. of my existence I laid into them all about how they're destroying their own freedoms and really should be going down to number ten to arrest the real criminals. I asked them about RFID and they just ignored me.

They still didn't get confirmation of my existence and started asking me for I.D. like a passport or something. I didn't have any so they started asking me who my neighbors are.

It really is the end of freedom in this country. The uniformed enslaving slave that got the police almost got a hard on about bringing them over and intimidating my mother and myself.

I asked them if pollution was really their concern why don't they look into corporations and how they're fucking the planet daily.

They just ignored me.

I'm probably now on a terrorist database and after speaking to someone else about the same thing happening to someone they know I'll probably be sent a large fine through the mail.

Anyone got any ideas about what I should do with it?

[justice]

I was flying within the UK and just after customs i was stopped and asked if i had much cash on me and i said about 200 quid and the twat then asked if it was all in pounds of was some in euro's.

Didn't have time to take him to task but why would they be concerned over such a small sum of money i ask myself

Do they think some big drug pusher would turn around and say year sure mate i've got 100k of cash on me or something.

We need more people to satnd up and tell em where to go and the others will follow.

[Bobdrakke]

Eveland did they say who they were or show you badge?

About two year ago my friend got stopped at night by police under suspicion of terrorism act and asked for ID details. They got given a form they were searched by police under terrorism act.

[nataraja]

the next time you go to get your passport renewed, you will have to do a retina scan and fingerprints and get a chip in your passport, the time of that you will have to supply your dna with all that previous information, and the time after that they taking the chip out the passport and putting it in our arms.

when you travel now you will notice that they no longer use primitive stamps like they used to, its scanned, and your journey details are added to the global airport database, which in the future will be the planets database of keeping track on its citizens