Salvador Dali's Disney animated short "Destino"

[SerialExpLain]

Salvador Dali's Disney animated short "Destino"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...h&plindex=2


Hmm... Interesting wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destino

And, is it just me or is there a REAL SURREAL name in that Wiki:crazy:

[April]

wow! :shocked:.... i have NEVER heard of this one b/f....

very interesting....
if anyone can find the full version of this anywhere online... it would be awesome if you would be so kind as to share the link. :smile:

[SiLVa]

wow thanks Serial. I have some Dali books at home. I liked his stuff.And I never knew he did anything with Disney...
Im trying to download the full version thru a couple places, I want to see this...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=download+Destino

[SerialExpLain]

You're most welcome SILVa and thank-you too.

[Phil999]

Quote:wow thanks Serial. I have some Dali books at home. I liked his stuff.And I never knew he did anything with Disney...

hehehe, well you may want to read them then.:LOL:Dali also met with H.R.Giger which is quite natural for these artists I think.

Thank you all, I have never seen a single frame from this Disney-Dali collaboration. This trailer is superb, it is exactly how I imagined that collaboration. There are also other artists that for some reason did not work for animation and film, although their work would suit perfectly. M.C.Escher once reveiled that he would have liked to do animations very much, but had not have the time for it.

[SiLVa]

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Quote:wow thanks Serial. I have some Dali books at home. I liked his stuff.And I never knew he did anything with Disney...

hehehe, well you may want to read them then.:LOL:

Nothing to read really. They are books of his artwork. But I agree. It looks just like I imagine it would. I still havent found the full version though. If someone has it, please pass it on...

[Phil999]

that would be nice, but I believe there is no full version. Maybe this trailer is all that exists, some sort of animatics (animated preview of the script to see how it works). I think it works very well, but it was probably too daring to produce a full length motion picture. I will see what I can find, and post (hopefully) a link here. And if not, doesn't matter much, today's animating tools are much better than in that era, so there's nobody who can stop today's artists to create even better animations. Although, there are not many with the caliber of a Salvador Dali.

And, in your books, no text between the images? That's a pity, because Dali was also a phantastic story-teller (it's long time ago I read it, but I still remember his description of his visit to a hooker. Very funny, and Dali-like very colourful and dramatically exaggerated, and probably purely invented) and, more important, a good theorist about ancient, today nearly forgotten painting techniques. I learned from him the secret of opalescence (dozens of transparent layers producing a sky-blue tint), not from my teachers (I'm a painter). He was also a psycho-analyst, philosopher, avantgardist, dream-interpreter, worshiper of insanity, designer and whatnot. Very interesting to read, still precious and valid 100 years later.
So I apologize, I really thought that having several books about him, Disney must have been mentioned somewhere.


EDIT: I've just seen that this is in the mind control section. Sorry, SE, this is art, and art is free. This is not mind control, this is mind release, the exact contrary. You really seem to see things everywhere.:wacko::P :blink:

[SerialExpLain]

I usually qualify art-movies-music, etc., in this section as "in lieu of a culture section".

But, I am especially interested in obscure content you can find in all kinds of media. Amazing what you can find, really. Do you think mind control is something that stays in labs, think-tanks, and does not touch anywhere else? I think following the money trail is ALWAYS revelatory.

<span style="color:#FFCC66">Mind control? :eyebrow: Well, it certainly won't have a stamp on it saying its mind control.. <span style="color:#FFCC66">Nor will it say social engineering. Nor will it say danger ahead or afoot

So, one man's mind control is simply art-music-culture or as you said "mind release", or maybe even "mind leaked" How about "mind originated" Certainly, we can agree on that.:rolleyes:

Phil999, buy me a pair of rose-colored glasses? :cool: Sun's so bright, need shades.

Hey, maybe it was for an exclusive audiance, rather like the release of Noon Blue Apples the movie. (Discernment required)

P.S.: Who is Baker Bloodworth or did you miss that?

Oh, and Phil999, I DO have amazing sight, sometimes I think I can see right through walls:geek:

To the clock that is ticking...

[Phil999]

I see your point, I'm just surprised to see how strong you are focussed on "obscure content".:)

Certainly we can agree that art in general is mind-trickery, manipulation, deceit, etc. - mostly unknown and not recognized by the audience. Actually, the audience loves to be tricked, loves to see a human morph into a monster or alien, that's a major part of entertainment.

But what I understand of the term "mind control" goes further. The victims do not freely choose to be tricked or entertained, they get manipulated with chemicals, colors, sounds, programming, propaganda, etc. Under this influence, they change their habits, thoughts, feelings, and that is something I consider highly criminal. There is also some art that I would call criminal, but mostly art has more to do with aestetics and joy.

But this is going to be an endless discussion, as entertainment often borders mind control. The latest TV serials from Hollywood are a good example. Infotainment, conspirotainment also tent to produce fear and anger, so it is very close to mind control. I just wish to separate the work of creative artist apart of the insane mind control programs of certain groups or governments. I think it is not the same, although I agree that the borders are blurred.

I'm an artist myself, and I don't want to be called a mind control agent, that's why I try to insist to separate mind control and art. I'm a mind manipulator, a deceiver, a wizard, a story-teller, that's alright, I stand to this. But I respect the human soul and try not to put destructive influence into it. I heard you are a musician, and you sure have not the intent to violate people's minds with your art.

No doubt you are a special person, SE, and I adore how you stand your position even when all opinions are the contrary to yours. But remember, being gifted with sight and imagination is also a bigger responsibility, and what you focus on may become reality. Here, Disney's interpretation of Goethe's "Zauberlehrling" (apprentice of wizardry?) comes to mind. The ghosts you are calling might not remain under your control. That does not mean to wear color sunglasses (I never wear sunglasses btw.).

Baker Bloodworth? Never heard of him. Must have missed that one.

Best wishes.:)

[SerialExpLain]

Quote:I see your point, I'm just surprised to see how strong you are focussed on "obscure content".

Because that just might be the only place to find truth nowadays. :wink:

But truth be told, I've always rather been like that. Eccentric perhaps? Add Internet and Voila!

Quote:Best wishes.

Same to you Phil999

[Phil999]

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Quote: I see your point, I'm just surprised to see how strong you are focussed on "obscure content".

Because that just might be the only place to find truth nowadays. :wink:

:LOL:that's a typical answer from you. I just hope you have also some other sources to find truth.

Quote:But truth be told, I've always rather been like that. Eccentric perhaps? Add Internet and Voila!

yes, eccentric perhaps.:LOL:(respectful lol)

Are you born under the sign of scorpio, perhaps? Always digging in the dark where no one else can go?

Yeah I forgot to mention the internet. That's the biggest deceiver the world has ever seen.

[SerialExpLain]

No Phil999, I'm a Capricorn, known for grazing, head-butting, and even deriving sustenance from things like cans. I have a Gemini moon, so I don't stick to any one can very long and switch pastures often.

Air of Earth...why didn't you guess that? LOL

Truth to me is what doesn't have that -- you know -- disinfo flavor or smell.

But in any event, on-off computer, in-out of books, in-out of voices and eyes - there will ALWAYS, well as long as we walk the planet, be truth that will shine right.

Oh, and in nature -- what is left of the genuine created variety. :biggrin:

[Phil999]

Quote:Air of Earth...why didn't you guess that? LOL

I'm bad in guessing. My sight is limited, and when I see more, I can't put it into words mostly. So I'm a very bad oracle. But that there's a quite big amount of air is obvious.

I'm glad you mention nature. There you have zero disinfo.


And for the Destino fragments, there seem to exist only those utube clips. I will search further.

[SiLVa]

Quote:that would be nice, but I believe there is no full version. Maybe this trailer is all that exists, some sort of animatics (animated preview of the script to see how it works). I think it works very well, but it was probably too daring to produce a full length motion picture.

I think it was made into a 6-7 minute short film , not a full length movie. Thats what Im looking for, supposedly it was shown at some film festivals so its got to be somewhere.

Quote:And, in your books, no text between the images? That's a pity, because Dali was also a phantastic story-teller (it's long time ago I read it, but I still remember his description of his visit to a hooker. Very funny, and Dali-like very colourful and dramatically exaggerated, and probably purely invented) and, more important, a good theorist about ancient, today nearly forgotten painting techniques. I learned from him the secret of opalescence (dozens of transparent layers producing a sky-blue tint), not from my teachers (I'm a painter). He was also a psycho-analyst, philosopher, avantgardist, dream-interpreter, worshiper of insanity, designer and whatnot. Very interesting to read, still precious and valid 100 years later.
So I apologize, I really thought that having several books about him, Disney must have been mentioned somewhere.

Theyre both my fathers, and from what i can remember not much writing, if any. maybe a bit of a bio and descriptions of the paintings but I never noticed anything about disney, but perhaps there was a mention somewhere, I just didnt see it, so it caught me off guard seeing the animation. One book is like a mini coffee table book of paintings, and the other is a big hard cover book of a lot of paintings and drawings he did.
Id like to read more of his written work though, I found his artwork very intriguing. I like that I can look at a painting and see more than one picture, more than one expression or feeling. To say he's original would be an understatement.

[Phil999]

I also believe that it is below 10 minutes. I first was thinking that it must have aired on TV, and I asked in a graphics forum if someone has seen or taped it. No answers so far, apart from utube links. But you're right, it must have been shown on film festivals, that's a good thought.

Well I took a look at my library (which happens not very often since I have internet), and to my pleasure I saw that I still have my book. [I also remember that I stole it from a public library. Not that I'm proud of that, it's just an anecdote. It must have costed much]. I can recommend it, as there is a lot of information of the cultural environment he lived in (Luis Bunuel, Garcia Lorca, the DaDa manifestos, André Breton, surrealism, surrealism in Hollywood, etc.) and of course some of his writings (scientific works, a sheherazade of the sticky, the donkey carcass, critical observations about the initial phenomenon of insanity, and more). It is a German translation of the French original "Salvador Dali - Rétrospective 1920 - 1980", Centre Georges Pompidou, Musée National d'Art Moderne, Paris 1979. There surely exists an English translation.

I doubt that there exists a pdf of that, but you never know, maybe there is one. When I find it, I'll post a link here. Please understand that translating Dali's texts into English is a too big adventure for me; I hardly understand his texts in my mother language.:LOL:He was such a crazy guy.


EDIT: ISBN of the original French release: 3-7913-0494-1