Out behind the wood shed...

[blove8.]

he did. a fan club of one apparently. :biggrin:

[Rosebery]

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[ephilution]

Well, it was not my intention to provoke a string of questions to me. I'm not on the stand here, but since it´s you Brandon and since you phrased it in a friendly fashion, I'll bite

Quote:phil,

- what are the strongest points of evidence that keep you believing him?

A number of reasons:

The many pictures he sent over time and then the verification of the people's identities through sources independent from Leo. See for instance the thread I did on the Aldo Moro information he sent.
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=21137

His solid anti-Vatican anti-Jesuitical stance (an enemy of my enemy is my friend, and I only mean the two-faced Vatican hierarchy not its flock).

His consistent insistence to rid the world from Satanism, no holds barred.

Leo's wealth of knowledge regarding history, secret societies, societies with secrets and its many players, dead or alive.

My open-mindedness and inability to refute his claims.

Lack of reasons to think he's not to be trusted.

Nature of the confidential information trusted to me by Leo.

The lack of substance and over-abundance of personal attacks on Leo by his detractors.

... (maybe more later)

Quote:- do you believe that he is a straight shooter and isn't feeding any lines of BS?

That's a relative question. Someone working in the field of Psyops cannot shoot straight all the time bro. However, I do think he has been sincere to the truth-movement.

Quote:- do you think leo zagami is going to save us all from the NWO meanies?

The NWO seems to come no matter what. I just hope as Leo does, that it will be a benign NWO and I hope Leo succeeds in his cause of defeating the Vatican-led NWO. In fact, I'm even willing to lend him a (more professional) hand.

Quote:- what makes you think he is not a NWO meanie himself?

I pretty much always felt sympathy for Leo, especially after his marriage was deliberately crashed by the Gulen Movement and the Suslu family who were being NLPd/Mind Controlled by that treacherous devil Thomas Michel SJ.

I consider him a good friend so I have no reason to.

Quote:- do you think it is ok for him to death threat people?

That's not for me to judge Bro. Don't get me wrong I don't like it when people die (violent deaths), but perhaps sometimes there seems to be no way around it sadly.

[blove8.]

Thanks Phil, I appreciate the reply. :smile:

[Melchor]

Quote:The NWO seems to come no matter what. I just hope as Leo does, that it will be a benign NWO and I hope Leo succeeds in his cause of defeating the Vatican-led NWO. In fact, I'm even willing to lend him a (more professional) hand.

This is where I start to have problems with Leo and other NWO 'whistleblowers.' It's classic dialectic. The
NWO is NOT something that has to happen except for the fact that people make a false choice between one
form or another. This view of a benevolent dictatorship amounts to utopian thinking. Utopias are not
possiblebecause that would require morally perfect rulers. That is an impossibility no matter what Leo or
anyone else claims. The only option for a global system is a dystopian one and Leo is saying choose your
dystopia.

This thinking presents the often ignored anti-thesis to the Vatican system which is the kingdom under a
savior which is being promoted by the British bloc under all of the mono-theistic traditions. The Monarchy
claims to be descendants of the Israelites. So what you get to choose is who runs the dictatorship, the
Vatican or the Israelites. Christ by decree or Christ by lineage. It's a fraud to scam people to accept one
world empire or another. Which one people choose, TPTB really don't care, so long as you submit.

All the while we're supposed to overlook what these empires (which are intimately connected) have done
over the past centuries to accomplish their goal or accept the "ends justify the means" philosophy. By their
actions the Illuminati, whatever faction, have not been concerned with humanity or morality so why should
we assume that will change once they unify the world government openly? Pure fantasy. Leo gives people
the carrot of insider info and promises that he will turn things around using the system. The system is based
on a bad model. The hierarchy structure can never be benevolent, especially when it is totally based on
heredity and hides knowledge from people.

If Leo could explain why one dictatorship is good while another one evil, or why Luciferianism is good but Satanism is bad I might give him more credence. However, most of the distinctions Leo makes are purely
semantical and amount to building a false dichotomy. Since he states himself that his specialty is psy-ops,
that's what I will view his building that dichotomy as until he gives me a reason not to.

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Quote:In another thread I suggested earlier Make a Zagami sub board of Discussion and Debate then peeps can choose to read it or not, post or not.

I saw that Roseberry - I thought you were addressing Mike though.



Phil, If you'd be up for adding a question or two, I wouI'd also ask at this time about the 'death threat.' It can't really nice for appetite if the cook insinuates something akin to "chill out or you'll maybe meet an accident like somebody else we both knew". In the public sphere it's seemingly overly provocative..

I'd ask about all this waffen ss business.. What's the appeal of this organisational structure exactly? With links to fascistic elements and camps within and of the very establishments' permeating into such diverse and divergent altenative and ms fields and scenes as ecology,ufology,mars-egypt,occult and the new age "aquarian"..

I mean, I am not disputing that there is policical zionism provoking and managing some factions in the largely non governmental parts of the "extreme right", or Fascist,scene in America and very potentially the RCC but I haven't read,seen or heard this directly although admittedly I haven't really looked at it as a direct question so far either..
but was consideration of gaining a support base (from this specific idea) with camps that found it appealing or favourable - camps 'outside' of government..? Why the waffen SS?:rolleyes:

and if it was 'purely' for concerns of the very organisational structure, then I'd ask why exactly? What's so great about the very structure of that hierarchy that's makes it such a great model to use for the militia Leo says he now being brought into being?

@Njegosh - if you were able to expand a bit on why, or more specifically how you seem to know what seemingly would be such intimate events,knowledge of and memories relating to a part of Leo's past few years that surely would add a further depth of clarity to the whole situation too..
:)
and of course also, it seems he's on a total trip now sometimes - I don't know Leo as a friend or anything other than what is on the net by and of him. I mean if he actually is in psyops where fiction end and truth begin?edit)yes, and the utopian aspect to where this is said to be going too in this respect of 'being in psyops..'
also, I'd say that I hope he gets to see his child again soon too..

cheers

[shZ]

Quote:

Quote:You'll see that I have agreed somewhere in this thread that there should be a rationalisation of threads devoted to the dude. If only for the sanctity of his own ego not to mention everyone else's blood pressure.

And Phil said that it would be impossible to merge this lot into a single thread which is true. In another thread I suggested earlier Make a Zagami sub board of Discussion and Debate then peeps can choose to read it or not, post or not.

Cheers

Do you really want it to be dignified with it's own subforum:err:? Unless it's titled "Spam" I guess:huh:...

[shZ]

About the ad homines... I won't speak for anyone else. BUT... I didn't use ammo that Leo himself didn't provide really. I can brake it down too if you'd like :tongue:



1. Expressing a desire to instigate a third world war (with russian nukes aimed that the US nonetheless, by the "illuminati grandmaster":rolleyes:), blow up a holy site like the Al-Aqsa mosque to start a "Templar Crusade":eyebrow:, along with posting his real or imagined sex life with his wife on an online forums... most of these would be insanity (and offences) one could possibly be imprisoned or prosecuted for. I'm arguing the legitimacy of any those, but you have to admit that it at least marnializes anyone from being taken seriously. Maybe he should rethink what he's thinking perhaps?:huh:

2. This is a natural flows from one, not to mention he's 'illuminati king' now:rolleyes:.

3. Keeping his recent modus operandi of attempting to intimidate and threaten Greg Szymanski, can anyone say this isn't far fetched at all?

The "illuminaticonfessions.com" (mispelled, missing an "s" as I was stoned :tongue: ), and his name were just natural finishing touches :biggrin:. I believe my 'asthetic satire' is not with out justification :wink:.

[plasticfan]

[deathstickboy]

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:laughkick: Haven't seen that one in a while. :tongue: