I`ve got a theory...

[RustyShackleford]

I took a break for a couple of months from keeping up with NWO, listening to Alex or anyone else, etc......So Im sure this may have been covered, but is it possible that Obama isnt really on the NWO team, I know he`s a piece of crap and all, but what if he picks Hillary to run with him, they assasinate him, cause the blacks to riot, the wonderful government will step in with with the black uniformed storm troopers to contain the situation, maybe even the millitary busting heads of the American people, and estabish Martial Law....Hillary gets in the driver seat as their head puppet and helps to finish off this good idea of America......Thanks for listening!

[yeti]

Quote:... is it possible that Obama isnt really on the NWO team, I know he`s a piece of crap and all, but what if he picks Hillary to run with him, they assasinate him ...

Obama is NWO sanctioned all the way. Take a look at the people who backed his campaign. Look at the companies who donated to him. These bastards want a return on their investment. He knows this, and willingly strapped on the kneepads...

I know what you're saying though: that they might have set him up. If that's the best way to get what they want, then you may be right. Either way, these pricks win.

[Midfield.Enforcer]

Quote:...this good idea of America....

Since when was it a "good idea"??

As for Obama, in my opinion ALL politicians are compromised and for want of a better word dirty. So fuck him, fuck Hillary, fuck Putin, Brown, Merkel, Sarkozy and the rest but most especially fuck Ron Paul for duping half of Americas kids into believing he'd make an iota of difference!!

peace


M.E

[standvast]

Tell 'em Lex!

for anyone in doubt of Obama's connections and affiliations...
On the TruthLoveFreedom Radio show they had some interesting info on
the guy (Jim Johnson) who was selesting a vice-presidential candidate for Obama,..
he turned out to be Councel on Foreign Relations, American friends of Bilderberg, among other shady connections.
It also turned out he was selecting vice presidential candidates since at least as far back as the eighties.

Find the radio show here ; truthlovefreedom.org

[blove8.]

Is there a specific show you are referring to standvast or is it bits and pieces throughout a few different shows?

[yeti]

Quote:Tell 'em Lex!

for anyone in doubt of Obama's connections and affiliations...
On the TruthLoveFreedom Radio show they had some interesting info on
the guy (Jim Johnson) who was selesting a vice-presidential candidate for Obama,..
he turned out to be Councel on Foreign Relations, American friends of Bilderberg, among other shady connections.
It also turned out he was selecting vice presidential candidates since at least as far back as the eighties.

Find the radio show here ; truthlovefreedom.org

Yup. And Obama's main backer is Zbigniew Brzezinski - who's right up there with Kissinger on the creep list.

[blove8.]

Can I get some resources on these things you speak of about Obama please?

[harmonius]

Quote:Can I get some resources on these things you speak of about Obama please?

Listen to any of Tarpleys shows over the past couple of months and you will get the picture. Find him on the Rense show and it will be more concise. I suggest TPB.


MMM

[mexika]

Yup,

Most likely he can be set up, especially if he does not go along the agenda of these bastards called leaders of the free world. Give me a freaking break, free world...we fukn dieing from pollution and other crap..:angry013:. Anyway...possibilities are that he can be set up or has already been set up. Have to remember that these sick bastards do not rest until their fruit cake agenda is NWO or New Whores Onboard...

[hilly7]

Quote:I took a break for a couple of months from keeping up with NWO, listening to Alex or anyone else, etc......So Im sure this may have been covered, but is it possible that Obama isnt really on the NWO team, I know he`s a piece of crap and all, but what if he picks Hillary to run with him, they assasinate him, cause the blacks to riot, the wonderful government will step in with with the black uniformed storm troopers to contain the situation, maybe even the millitary busting heads of the American people, and estabish Martial Law....Hillary gets in the driver seat as their head puppet and helps to finish off this good idea of America......Thanks for listening!

I think he's dirty, but then again, I think you may very well be right. These people value nothing other than the agenda, all except the very top are expendable. This crossed my mind after hearing people talk about things, so I watched a bit of TV while at the beach at night. Amazing what boredom will do. Obama definately creates a division between black and white, and whatever he lacks, the media builds. Already people are talking like raciest on both sides, those that remember the 60s can see the tension and division occuring. This guy is no MLK.

While I'm typing this, my wife is watching TV, Paula Dean, I loathe that show! Anyway, the scenerio could easily play out. Assination would incite a riot like King beating in LA, except nationally. That of course would invoke Martial Law. Obama doesn't even have to be elected for this to happen, then there is no election. We then have King George and queen Cheney. Already, the tension is being built for an explosion if that happens. Billary and Bush are on the same team, and who knows, maybe King Bush & Queen Hillary?

Anybody who has ever worked for a mind altering corporation knows that employees, especially near the top will do almost anything for the company's benefit. No, I don't think that is too far fetched after watching and listening, hopefully I am wrong. Even his preached, while correct on almost all issues is openly a raciest.

[mexika]

People have to keep an open mind. Yes, it can be of Divide and Conquer" create a sick scenario to benefit the New Whores Onboard. The Spirit has to be pure, open, and cautious. The Media whores are ready and standing by to create, divide, and confuse people. Its very sad that stuff like this is happening in America. Very sad indeed. Sad condition these sick elite trash are putting people of every creed, color. The thing you have to see is that TV is being controlled from the Fascist perspective, fascist europeans who pretty much full control of the media which prey on the minds of white america, confusing the elderly, the unthinking, and the so called brainwashed patriotic to align with the brethren. In other words, the media is fucking with peoples minds. Lou Dubs, and the media racist whores do not allow a different perspective (Color People) to have another say. Be-careful with the white fascist media...

I was reading this once an interview on a mysterious mason or so called mason, and he said the earth was much worse than a nightmare, like peoples hell creating stupidity in the name of their twisted sick minds...

[hilly7]

I actually think the media is effecting the mind of not only white americans but black as well. You can be any color to be a raceist or to be suckered in. Then the media has dubbed Obama as a Muslium with a Christian preacher. Sheeple already think all Musliums are nutty self exploding people, and all Christian people as being snmake handling fools. Black people see white as the enemy, white people see black people as the enemy, both see Mexicans as being the enemy. There is a good google on why Mexicans are coming here thanks to Ford and the governments (plural), working on NAU which will eventually be the EU or who knows, maybe the UN.

This thing plays out with a cast and a script from Hell, but I hope I'm wrong. Right now it seems to be working quite well, the division shows up many places with white vs black. Already words like whitie and nigger are everywhere, I would have thought we got past that a long time ago, but apparently not. That is why I think there may be some validity to this topic. Manson attempted to create a war between the two colors, perhaps with an all cast of players, well thought out script, and a ignorant audience, all can be enslaved. Then color won't matter, just bloodlines. As we allow hate, pride, and prejudice to own us, they feed on our hate.

[mexika]

it will certainly be interesting if Obama wins the presidency... I can't wait. It will be a such a big drama...

[standvast]

Blove8 Wrote:is there a specific show you are referring to standvast or is it bits and pieces throughout a few different shows?

It was a specific show, and some googlin i did while listening
,..but there's plenty links on this Johnson and surely also Obama if you go lookin..

This was the show ; podcast 13 / first Revere show (third from the top )

it's somewhere at 1hour.33 mins that they speak about Obama and Johnson.

peace'

[Soul Real]

Hey, I did a few things on Zbigniew Brzezinski recently.

Radio Show- What is the war for?
http://truthlovefreedom.org/?p=85

Radio show- Between two Ages.
http://truthlovefreedom.org/?p=100

TLF Article: Zbigniew Brzezinski may be grooming himself for White House
http://truthlovefreedom.org/?p=144

Those will give you good info about a major backer of Obama, Brzezinki. There are others, but you can count on this guy getting in the White House again if he wins. This guy is the cold war strategist, the person who came up with the idea of funding the Mujahadeen and founding partner in the Trilateral Commission.

Here are some quotes from Brzezinski that we run through on the 'What is the war for" show.

The Grand Chessboard by Zbigniew Brzezinski

"...The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power...” (p. xiii)

"... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book.” (p. xiv)

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.” (pp 24-5)

"For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.” (p.30)

"America's withdrawal from the world or because of the sudden emergence of a successful rival - would produce massive international instability. It would prompt global anarchy." (p. 30)

"In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)

“It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

"Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above..." (p. 40)

"...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)

"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55)

"Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)

[Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a 1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the current conflict - describing it as the central region of pending conflict for world dominance] "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of importance from the standpoint of security and historical ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with China also signaling an increasing political interest in the region. But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more important as a potential economic prize: an enormous concentration of natural gas and oil reserves is located in the region, in addition to important minerals, including gold." (p.124)

"The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S. Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far East. The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)

"Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for regional leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)

"Once pipelines to the area have been developed, Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a prosperous future for the country's people.” (p.132)

"In fact, an Islamic revival - already abetted from the outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia - is likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any reintegration under Russian - and hence infidel - control." (p. 133).

"For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic depth through political influence in Afghanistan - and to deny to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and Tajikistan - and to benefit eventually from any pipeline construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea." (p.139)

"Turkmenistan... has been actively exploring the construction of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea..." (p.145)

"It follows that America's primary interest is to help ensure that no single power comes to control this geopolitical space and that the global community has unhindered financial and economic access to it." (p148)

"China's growing economic presence in the region and its political stake in the area's independence are also congruent with America's interests." (p.149)

"America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive importance to America's global primacy and to America's historical legacy." (p.194)

"Without sustained and directed American involvement, before long the forces of global disorder could come to dominate the world scene. And the possibility of such a fragmentation is inherent in the geopolitical tensions not only of today's Eurasia but of the world more generally." (p.194)

"With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)

"That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 198)

"The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its decisive arbitration role." (p. 198)

"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last." (p.209)

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)