So what do you guys think of this?

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Quote:I can understand your feelings on the topic. I never would have thought I would end up with the Jesuits either. When I first started my research, I didn't even know who the hell the Jesuits were. At first glance I actually thought they were a religious group.

Anyways...I am no longer interested in past history. I've spent enough time on that. Now, I am interested in the immediate future. I see all these things like seizing the world's oil and food and water supplies coming to fruition. I see Rockefeller's evil little pet project Codex Alimentarius the world's first truly scientific population culling apparatus creeping up on us. I see the American economy on the verge of collapse. I see world war III on the horizon. These are all things I was finding out about almost 20 years ago. These things are now no longer just stories, they are becoming reality. This is now my area of interest.

All and any information you care to present is greatly appreciated. I am intent on exploring the history of the frankist,bolshevic,zionist dynamic during the 17-1800's...I have wanted to for some time.

I had heard of the Jesuits as being deeply nefarious and once saw a letter addresse directly to a Jesuit organisation on the floor in a building on offices etc ..

I'll confess - I saw someone pick it up and open it and I asked to have a look.. it was a bank statement.. a small amount of euros in the tens had been deposited to an account which had a balance of around 3-5 hundred euros or so... I know it all counts but it didn't strike me as a document that was from the secret controller of the whole plantation. But that doesn't really mean so much:)

[EvilMaster]

The Jesuits operate as a military/political group. Compartmentalization is their system, not all Jesuits are evil people bent on controlling the world. Most Jesuit educators or Religious types are just that. Educators or Religious types, they have no idea what the true goals of the group as a whole are. They just do their jobs. A very similar setup to what the Masons use. It's the top tiers of power where the true bad stuff resides.

I see you are a member of the Administrators group. Maybe you can answer this question for me?...Does this site keep logs of user activity?...Like, from time to time I may have information to share that is of a sensitive nature. If I were to share this information here and a summons for I.P records or the like were sent to the owners of this site, would they have records to hand over?

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Quote:The Jesuits operate as a military/political group. Compartmentalization is their system, not all Jesuits are evil people bent on controlling the world. Most Jesuit educators or Religious types are just that. Educators or Religious types, they have no idea what the true goals of the group as a whole are. They just do their jobs. A very similar setup to what the Masons use. It's the top tiers of power where the true bad stuff resides.

I see you are a member of the Administrators group. Maybe you can answer this question for me?...Does this site keep logs of user activity?...Like, from time to time I may have information to share that is of a sensitive nature. If I were to share this information here and a summons for I.P records or the like were sent to the owners of this site, would they have records to hand over?

By the very nature of the issues, you are putting yourself at increased risk of being monitored by participating on message boards and sites like this one, I would have thought.


The ball doesn't stop withme and I'm sure youwillbe furnished with a more enlightening and comprehensive answer than I can give but at no time will I ever be grassing anyone up* for anything said here or info about anyone..which is a euphemism for *snitching.

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Quote:29th Sep, 11:53pm
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nik: what about the IP's though? it'sa good question
29th Sep, 11:53pm
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nik: if demanded there isn'treallys a leg to stand on other than to wipe the site and say it was an accident
29th Sep, 11:54pm
EasySkanking: Since Tom's name is probably on the domain name and it's his server, ultimately it would be his call. Without a very specific warrant, no way.
29th Sep, 11:54pm
EasySkanking: With one....Tom's call.
29th Sep, 11:54pm
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nik: or also get prosecuted for non compliance which would probably happen even in the lame scenario that the site was burnt to protect anyone.
29th Sep, 11:55pm
EasySkanking: Even if we delete the account, the IPs remain.
29th Sep, 11:57pm
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nik: then maybe Tom should just answer it..
29th Sep, 11:57pm
EasySkanking: And they are kept from every post as where the post was made.
30th Sep, 2:13am
yeti: The tracker only logs the IP of current peers, and the IP of a user when they are logged in. As soon as they log out, it's gone.
30th Sep, 2:15am
yeti: The forum seems to track the IP of every user and post.
30th Sep, 2:16am
yeti: The tracker does log the IP of someone who tries to view pages he shouldn't, in the system logs.
30th Sep, 2:16am
yeti: The web server itself logs the IPs of every contact, but they are offloaded weekly.
30th Sep, 2:31am
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nik: shall i c+p that into the thread verbatim or do you want to? the thread is 'what doyou think guys?' by evil master
30th Sep, 2:32am
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nik: *to post something

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Quote:The Jesuits operate as a military/political group. Compartmentalization is their system, not all Jesuits are evil people bent on controlling the world. Most Jesuit educators or Religious types are just that. Educators or Religious types, they have no idea what the true goals of the group as a whole are. They just do their jobs. A very similar setup to what the Masons use. It's the top tiers of power where the true bad stuff resides.

for me, the problem there is that the statement could just as slightly reworded and good to go as a vague catch all denouncement of pretty much any powerful group of choice..

As said, I'd be interested in any thoughts on the elite disunity piece should you ever chance to read it.

[EvilMaster]

That's exactly what I needed to know about the I.P tracking and it is what I expected. Thank you for clearing that up. On custom built forum software you can choose to eliminate that kind of user tracking, which might come in handy for a place like this. I'll just make sure that before I talk about certain stuff that I can find it elsewhere on the net first. Being the second guy to talk about things and being able to provide a link to somewhere else is ok, but being the first guy can get you in trouble.

You are correct, all these secretive type groups use the compartmentalization system. It works, can't blame them for using it. I would do the same.

I'll definitely get into that other thread of yours.

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Yes, there are discussions about how to make the site as secure as possible and the privacy of the users paramount.

It is being worked on:)

Glad the the info answered your question successfully.

If you don't want to be the 'first' to break allegedly sensitive infos - then just PM me with it and I can pass it on to ppl that don't mind posting info up for you in their name.

Do you not think us admins are running a slight risk by facilitating this site?? Just get the info out. it's 2010 almost.

[SiLVa]

Evil Master - We're already on a list. Just by the very nature of our being, to "them" we are cattle. At this point, I'd only worry about repercussions if the situation presented itself. In which case you/we should all be prepared for. But dont fear anything you "think" they may do to you. They like when you fear them. If you have valid useful info, there is no better place to post it than here, imo.

To respond to your very vague replies, I have to say, many of us here have been doing probably the same exhaustive research that you have. Some for a long time, like you. And for the most part, those of us that try to keep a level head and stay objective, have not found the smoking gun that you seem to have.
Do Jesuits maintain connections in the higher echelons of government, media and commerce? Yes. As do Freemasons and Knights of Malta and Opus Dei and Muslim Brotherhood and Zionists and CFR members and many other secret societies. You get my point?
What specifics have you come across that can prove that the Jesuits are the ones actually calling the shots?
The Jesuits of old have claimed a lot of power and authority, yet I just dont seem to be able to find the proof of this as being actually true. Even older books claiming the Jesuits were behind the scenes in certain affairs, offer little proof that it was exclusive to that group only.

Imo, all the above mentioned groups -as well as some others of course- should be watched and monitored for all they do collectively. They all seem to have a hand in this thing we call the New World Order. Targeting one group over another kind of takes your "sights" off the others though, imo.

Im sure you're familiar with the theory of "Divide and Conquer". You've also mentioned compartmentalization. But why would these methods be used through only one organization, when they could effectively use them with all of them, and to a more efficient end? I just figure that these methods could very well be used by all the groups collectively. If you think about it, it makes sense, and would cause much more confusion and division as Im sure is the very purpose. Dont know how else to put it so I'll just leave it at that.

[kevlar]

this the internet, if you browse http from your home ip then you get what is coming to you.

but even if you chain ssh tunnels around the world and setup scripts to wipe it clean, you are still at risk. havn't you seen enemy of the state ?:D

i live inside an underground lead bunker with one hard line and i don't go on http unless it goes through a botnet and tor and an ssh tunnel chain.

lol

just kidding ofcourse

[FastTadpole]

Quote:i live inside an underground lead bunker with one hard line and i don't go on http unless it goes through a botnet and tor and an ssh tunnel chain.

FYI: Some TOR networks are run by intelligence agencies -- you may as well run a highlighter over your sensitive communications. Nice idea, poor implementation. Even with TOR your packet has to go through your ISP's nodes and many ISPs are required to log and store that data from 6 months to indefinitely. It does have its uses though as it is an easy way to randomly spoof your IP.

The safest way to communicate over the net would be not to use it at all. Find a reliable proxy to pass on messages (handwritten, typed or a permanently offline printer) to do your bidding have them create a chain of anonymity and constantly change them up. Your proxies could add a few more layers such as encryption (One-time Pad has never been decrypted to my knowledge), hardware firewall, SSH tunnel chains, using a hard line (or better yet plugging directly into a main pipe), compiling your own OS and software after checking the source for listener subroutines. Oh and make sure you avoid all cameras and scan your clothes for RFID tags or go naked when meeting your proxy. I have not confirmed this personally but it possible firmware may contain reporting and tracking routines so build your own hardware. An underground lead bunker would be a nice touch too!

Personally I can't be bothered to go through the hassle to do this and any half-assed implementation only adds extra red flag points when a program like carnivore does its dance.

PS don't forget your tinfoil helmet -- they can read your thoughts:unsure:

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Quote:"As much as I has admired the Benedictines, I admired the Jesuits more...the Society of Jesus was something special; the shock troop of the Catholic Church. So an effective an organisation was it, that Heinrich Himmler used it as the model for his own corps of Ubermenschen, the Schutzstaffel, whose hand-picked members swore an oath of loyalty to the Führer as the highest rank of Jesuits did to the Pope.
These men ran the world and it was obvious they enjoyed it."

"Will:The autobiography of G.Gordon Liddy" G:GordonLiddy FBI agent