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[SiLVa]

What do you think of this?
One of the users there named reinhardt had some interesting info, that I need to do a bit more looking into, but apparently he was banned...its still unclear exactly why but looking at the info he was posting, it may not be a big surprise.

His 1st post in the discussion:

Quote:From: reinhardt - view profile
Date: Fri, Jul 18 2008 11:36 am

"Crash is in September."

yup

and the negative news that will move the market downward should occur
Sept 15

this organization below.. runs the show

http://www.legatus.org/public/index.asp

the money laundering occurs just prior to the pilgrimage to rome and
the checks are written during the pilgrimage and the checks clear by
September 14 and the negative news leaks out (something along the
lines of "insider trading on a mass scale at a major brokerage) then
they start crossing the "t"s and dotting the "i"s on Sarbanes-Oxley II

SOX II will certainly protect the working class' nest-eggs fur sure!

So he was pretty much on point with the date...thats what merits looking deeper into what he said

Here is the link for the whole discussion if anyones interested...

http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...000139928d2d434

[B4Time]

Thanks Silva bookmarked the page lots to look into.

[hilly7]

Holy shit, thanks Silva. This guy reinhart, they mentioned he has a website. Do you know where?

I couldn't help but notice we got mentioned here in TN. Lamar Alexander, Ford, and Gore. All of these guys are assholes. Unfortunately I only said that to Lamar. Techinally I think I said useful as teets on a bore hog, then asshole.

[SiLVa]

Quote:Holy shit, thanks Silva. This guy reinhart, they mentioned he has a website. Do you know where?

I couldn't help but notice we got mentioned here in TN. Lamar Alexander, Ford, and Gore. All of these guys are assholes. Unfortunately I only said that to Lamar. Techinally I think I said useful as teets on a bore hog, then asshole.

I think this is his site...
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/

He said it was his hobby and dropped the link...but I dont understand most of the stuff on there.
17 Enrons before Christ? Say what? Not very descriptive.

But it seems like he just posted something there this morning too.
a page called "Suggestions & Predictions"

[StingingNettle]

The last time the dow was at 10,000 was in 2004. The Fed as we speak is dumping TONS of money into the system. This is the helicopter drop. I don't know how far the DOW will go down since all that money is being created now. Remember Zimbambwe had the best preforming stock market (while their inflation was at a million %... hahahah. The 30 year treasury yeilds 4% ahahahah who the hell would lend to this government with for 30 years at 4%? I guss the sheeple. Their are etf's that go up when treasuries go down. If you want to make some money I'd probably buy those and watch them over the next few years.

[TeslaandLyne]

All because of lousy Tyco..

This is one for the books.
reinhardt does a good job here.

David Tice sounds like the Prudent Bear Hedge fund originator.
I sold out my shares a few months ago , it seemed to do ok but oil was rising.
No big share fund increase but seemed to do as good as a cd with dividends.

So I sold out all my shares and about a month later Tice sold out and it must have a new name most likely.
So then my oil investment went down.

The Illuminati get billions for CERN and other wasted technology projects and story writing, they could have
made factories to make millions of fake free energy devices to make jobs so houses might have been sold.

Well there are real free energy devices shipped to overseas.

ED:? what Mellon told Hoover....
Anyone graduated from Carnegie Mellon is call mellonheads in the office.

[hilly7]

Thanks Silva. This is some kinda coding, the guy is smart. I just scanned part, but it seems to be based on the events that he posted a while back at Google that started with 1278, mixed with his accounts of the records. Not sure how the EBC and EAC relates. If this stuff is a hobby with this guy, I'd love to see what he does for a living.

One of the posts that dates that are abstracted is
http://finance.google.com/group/google.fin...dd2de3bf01093c0?

Here is a copy of the other

A lot of questions can be answered by looking at some familiar dates:


This A Timeline Of Re-Coinage, Coin-Clipping, Debasements,
Bankruptcies, Manias, Panias, Crashes, Recessions, & Depressions Since
1278 A.D.


1278 A.D Coin clipping
1557 State bankruptcy (France & Spain)
1558 Re-coinage of 1558
1557 Spain bankrupt
1607 Spain bankrupt
1614 Bankruptcy (Augsburg)
02/1622 (February 1622) Debasement of coin
02/1637 (February 1637) Market debasement (first recorded joint-stock
debasement)
1696 New-coinage in England (carried out by John Locke and Issac
Newton; speculation: East India Company, treasure, new companies,
lotteries) (silver-re-coinage in England til 1698)
1720 Object of speculation: Selected companies: South Sea Company,
Compagnie d'Occident, Sword Blade Bank, Bank Generale, Bank Royale
(Isaac Newton is said to have lost 20,000 English pounds in public
funds in the South Sea Bubble; Newton is Master of the London Mint
until 1727)
04/1720 (April 1720) England speculative peak
05/1720 (May 1720) France Crisis (crash, panic) Failure of John Law's
Mississippi Company leads to French national bankruptcy
09/1720 (September 1720) England Crisis (crash, panic) South Sea
Bubble
1740 Gradually the British government began to restrict the rights of
the colonies to issue paper money. A dispute arose involving a "Land
Bank or Manufactury Scheme" in Boston, and the following year the
British parliament ruled that the bank was illegal in that it
transgressed the provisions of the Bubble Act of 1720 passed after the
collapse of the South Sea Bubble
09/1763 (September 1763) Amsterdam Crisis (crash, panic)
01/1773 (January 1773) Market Crash Amsterdam (note: Britain?) East
India Company, Housing, Turnpikes, Canals
03/1792 (March 1792) Market Crash (U.S.)
02/1793 (February 1793) Market Crash (England) Reign of Terror,
France, Canal Mania
02/1797-06/1979 (February-June 1797) Market Crash (England) Collapse
of assignats, French landing, Fishguard, securities, canals
08/1799-11/1799 (August-November 1799) Market Crash (Hamburg)
1810 Market Crash (England)
1811 Austria bankrupt
01/1811 (January 1811) Market Crash (England)
1816 Market Crash (England)
11/1818 (November 1818) Beginning of Market Crash (U.S.)
06/1819 (June 1819) End of Market Crash (U.S.)
1819 Depression
12/1825 (December 1825) (note: "early") Market Crash (England) Latin
American Bonds, Mines, Cotton, Bonds sold in installments, country
banks
12/1827 (December 1827) Market Crash (France, Paris Banks) Canals,
cotton, building sites
1828 Depression
12/1836 (December 1836) Market Crash; England
06/1837 (June 1837) Market Crash (France)
09/1837 (September 1837) Market Panic/Crash (U.S.)
1837 Depression
10/1847 (October 1847) Market Crash (England) Railways, Railroad
shares, wheat, installment sale of railway securities, 1846 potatoe
blight, wheat failure
03/1848 (March 1848) Market (Continent) Railways, wheat, building
(Cologne?)
30/08/1857 (August 30 1857) Market Crash (U.S.) Railroads, public
lands; Objects of speculation: Railroad shares (France & United
States)
10/1857 (October 1857) Market Crash (England) Railroads, wheat, bank
mergers, clearinghouse
11/1857 (November 1857) Market Crash (Continent) Lender of last
resort: Silberzug (Hamburg)
01/1864 (January 1864) Market Crash (France) End of Civil War
05/1866 (April 1866) Market Crash (England, Italy) Suspension of Bank,
Italy abandoned fixed parity
24/09/1869 (September 24 1869) Black Friday
05/1873 (April 1873) Market Crash (Germany, Austria)
20/09/1873 (September 20 1873) Panic of 1873; Market Crash (U.S.)
Fraud exposed in 1872 campaign, railroads, homesteading, Chicago
(Peshtigo) building
1873 Depression
01/1882 (January 1882) Market Crash (France)
11/1890 (November 1890) Market Crash (England) Lender of last resort:
Baring Liabilities, Bank of France, Russian gold loans to Britain,
Argentine clearing of southern lands, Brazil, coffee, Chile, nitrates,
South Africa, gold, Argentine securities, private companies going
public, Goshen conversion
20-21/03/1893 (Spring) (March 20-21 1893) Market Crash (Australia)
05/05/1893 (April 05 1893) Market Crash (U.S.) Panic of 1893; Repeal
of Sherman Silver Act
27/06/1893 (June 27 1893) New York Stock Market Crash
1893 Depression
09/11/1903 (November 09 1893) End of crash of 1901-1903
08/1907 (August 1907) Market Crash (France, Italy)
15/11/1907 (November 15 1907) End of crash (U.S.)
19/12/1917 (December 19 1917) End of current crash (U.S.?)
20-21/03/1921 (Spring) (March 20-21 1921) Market Crash (Britain &
U.S.)
24/08/1921 (August 24 1921) End of 5th worst market crash in 20th
century
1921 Depression
1927 "Black Friday" in Germany; economic system collapses
1927 Brazil's economy collapses owing to over-production of coffee
29/10/1929 (October 29 1929) Stock Market Crash
1929 Depression
17/04/1930 (April 17 1930) Start of worst market crash of 20th
century; Starting DJIA: 294.07; Ending DJIA: 41.22; Total loss: 86.0%;
Number of days: 813
05/1931 (May 1931) Market Crash (Austria)
06/1931 (June 1931) Market Crash (Germany)
09/1931 (September 1931) Market Crash (Britain)
12/1931 (December 1931) Market Crash (Japan)
10/03/1937 (March 10 1937) Start of 2nd worst market crash of 20th
century; Starting DJIA: 194.40; Ending DJIA: 98.95; Total loss: 49.1%;
Total days: 386
1937 Recession
31/03/1938 (March 31 1938) End of crash
12/09/1939 (September 12 1939) Beginning of 8th worst stock market
crash in 20th century; Starting DJIA: 155.92; Ending DJIA: 92.92;
Total loss: 40.4%; Total days: 959
28/04/1942 (April 28 1942) End of 8th worst market crash in 20th
century
1958 Market Panic/Crash (France) Speculation in currencies
1962 Market Panic/Crash (Canada)
1963 Market Panic/Crash (Italy)
1964 Market Panic/Crash (Britain)
1968 Market Panic/Crash (France)
1972 Recession
11/01/1973 (January 01 1973) Beginning of 7th worst market crash in
the 20th century; Starting DJIA: 1,051.70; Ending DJIA: 577.60; Total
loss: 45.1%; Related to: Collapse of Bretton Woods, OPEC 1973 price
rise, stocks, REITs, office buildings, tankers, Boeing 747s,
Eurodollar market flooding in 1970-1971
12/1974 (December 1974) On the last trading day of 1974, Gold reaches
a high of $195
31/12/1974 (December 31 1974) The U.S. government ends its ban on
individual ownership of gold.
01/1975 (January 1975) U.S. government legalizes gold ownership for
American citizens
30/08/1976 (August 30 1976) Gold bottom at $102
1979 Market Crisis/Panic; dollar, farmland
1980 Market Crisis/Panic; related to: oil
21/01/1980 (January 21 1980) Gold reaches intra-day high price of $870
in New York
1982 Market Crisis/Crash/Panic; related to: third world debt
1982 Deep Recession
21/06/1982 (June 21 1982) Gold bottom at $296
19/10/1987 (October 19 1987) Market Crash; market falls more than 500
points; related to stocks
01/1990 (January 1990) Market Panic/Crisis; (Japan)
1994-1995 Market Crash (Mexico) related to: deregulation, capital
inflow and outflow, domestic boom, bank lending, domestic new banks
1991, nationalized banks privatized 1991
1997-1998 Market Panic/Crisis (Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Korea,
Russia, Brazil; related to: deregulation, capital inflow and outflow,
borrowing abroad, bank lending, construction boom, crony capitalism
02/2000 (February 2000) Start of worst market crash of 21st century;
related to: Kenneth Lay was greedy?
10/03/2000 (March 10 2000) Nasdaq closes at 5048.62 after hitting an
intra-day high of 5,132.52
15/03/2008 Start of 2nd worst market crash of 21st centuryhttp://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/threa d/aad550b590f931bf/2000139928d2d434

[SiLVa]

Its so much info, but I dont know what to do with it...what to look for. Damn it.
It sux he was banned from Goggle. At least I could've tried to get a better grasp of what he's trying to put out there.

[hilly7]

Yea I know, me too. I did notice something on Agora's 5 minute forecast that rang a bell.

" The SEC has issued a ban on short selling.

If you short any of a list of 799 stocks they published this morning, from today until Oct. 2, you will, effectively, be committing a crime. Seriously. And the SEC isn’t talking naked shorting or some other controversial method. No shorts, period.

Of course, every one of the 799 stocks has serious financial exposure or credit risk buried in its balance sheet. They are the stocks that should be shorted… run by management teams that deserve market bruises more than any others.

Forget about all that rhetoric the U.S. government has been spewing for years about spreading — by force, if necessary — liberty and free markets in Arab states. Forget all the finger wagging the Fed has been doing at Japan for its failure to let its big banks bust and get on with the normal operations of the market.

Don’t even think about the flimsy concepts for managing risk or the efficiency of markets. You will now bow before the “two young kings,” as we heard Paulson and Bernanke described on NPR this morning. O, the hypocrisy! "

Now that kinda fits with what he says on his predictions page:

"The following is not a prediction it is only advice and suggestion:

I would not wait until Monday October 06 2008 to think about selling risky holdings.

I would think Wednesday, Oct 01 2008

(insert humor here) This would force a lot of backdating of executive “transactions” and more documents to shred ;-)



With respect to gold?

It can be “called in”.. again.. as it was in 1933.



The following are accurate predictions:

1. “Failure of regulation” is going to become a very popular term (DUH!).

2. There is going to be a lot of “reform” legislation passed in the next few years to “restore confidence in the market”. (note: laws are passed to conceal abuses and continue abuses.. not to avoid abuses.. but the “signing ceremony” sure is inspiring)

3. It will take a war (a big one) to restore the “dynamism” of the world’s economies."


(I meant for it to bold the dates and time frame) October

[SiLVa]

Quote:If you short any of a list of 799 stocks they published this morning, from today until Oct. 2, you will, effectively, be committing a crime. Seriously. And the SEC isn’t talking naked shorting or some other controversial method. No shorts, period.

Of course, every one of the 799 stocks has serious financial exposure or credit risk buried in its balance sheet. They are the stocks that should be shorted… run by management teams that deserve market bruises more than any others.

I heard stuff like that too. That some of the stocks should be being shorted, that it would help balance out a bit. It doesnt surprise me that they are doing that just to make it worse.

[mastermg]

Someone look for his email and invite him to ConCen, we need more info. This guy is obviously an insider, probably illegal too.

[hilly7]

Got any clues on the October 8th, or the 1st?

[hilly7]

Proposed new FBI rules draw civil liberties worries
Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:17pm EDT Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (-) [-] Text [+] By James Vicini

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department unveiled proposed new rules on Friday for FBI investigations, changes a civil liberties group criticized for giving agents powers to investigate Americans without proper suspicion.

In its first major change in years, the Justice Department proposed a consolidated set of guidelines for domestic FBI operations, seeking to apply the same rules for criminal and terrorism cases, and for collecting foreign intelligence.

The guidelines were first adopted in the 1970s following disclosures that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover had run a widespread domestic surveillance program that spied on civil rights activists and political opponents.

Officials said the new guidelines, which total 45 pages, were still being revised after consultations with Congress and civil liberties groups. The new rules are expected to take effect on October 1.

Justice Department and FBI officials told a news briefing the changes would allow agents in some terrorism cases to use informants, do physical surveillance and conduct interviews without identifying themselves or their true purpose.

They said such techniques currently could be used in ordinary criminal cases, but not for those involving national security, before an investigation has begun.

The American Civil Liberties Union expressed concern the rewritten rules had been drafted in a way to allow the FBI to begin surveillance without factual evidence to back it up.

It said that under the new guidelines, a person's race or ethnic background could be used as a factor in opening an investigation, a move the ACLU believes will institute racial profiling as a matter of policy. Continued...


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[hilly7]

SiLVa, have you been checking up on ernhart's site lately? He has passworded it. I can still get Suggestions ob Page 2, but that's it. Any clues?

[SiLVa]

Quote:SiLVa, have you been checking up on ernhart's site lately? He has passworded it. I can still get Suggestions ob Page 2, but that's it. Any clues?

No...I havent even went there lately. I'll see what I can find out though.