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Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
12-12-2008, 10:10 PM
Post: #31
Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
See...no justice in courts these days. The judge leads the jury to not be able to render the correct verdict and justice is raped. This is just the precedent for getting the cops off the hook when they get trigger happy and shoot an innocent person in the wrong place at the wrong time. There should be a fucking riot to protest this NWO farcical trial....but no, the sheep keep on sleeping and everyone rationalizes the outcome. :(

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02-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Post: #32
Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
No police officers will face charges over De Menezes shooting, CPS announces

Quote:No individual police officers will face charges over the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes by anti-terror officers, the Crown Prosecution Service said yesterday.

The decision, which follows a review of evidence from his inquest, angered the family of Mr de Menezes, 27.

The innocent Brazilian was shot at Stockwell Tube station in South London after being mistaken for one of the failed 21/7 bombers.

In December, an inquest jury returned an open verdict - rejecting the police view that he was killed lawfully.

Police said they had shouted a warning to him but he continued moving towards them. Tube passengers disputed this.

Banned by the coroner Sir Michael Wright from returning a verdict of unlawful killing, the jury was nevertheless highly critical of the Met's attempts to prove that the victim had been lawfully killed.

Mr de Menezes's family were furious at what they described as 'a complete whitewash' by the coroner and demanded charges be brought.

Yesterday Mr de Menezes's cousin Vivian Figuierdo said: 'We cannot understand how the deliberate killing of an innocent man and an attempt by the Metropolitan Police to cover it up does not result in a criminal offence.'

But CPS lawyer Stephen O'Doherty said there was insufficient evidence that any offence was committed by any individual officers in relation to the tragic death of Mr de Menezes.

'I concluded that in the confusion of what occurred on the day, a jury could not be sure that any officer had deliberately given a false account of events.'

The CPS first ruled out criminal charges in 2006. The Met was instead fined £175,000 under health and safety laws.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...-announces.html

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02-14-2009, 07:15 PM
Post: #33
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Gee whiz, the professional didn't take any notes, how fortuitous.
Now we know why cops are allowed to wear bala clavas and face shields, so we won't be able to identify them.

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03-05-2009, 08:39 AM
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Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
Jean Charles de Menezes coroner criticises double standards by police


Quote:Sir Michael Wright said there was a "stark difference" in how police and the public were treated with officers allowed to confer before writing their witness statements while civilians were not.

He also pointed to confusion over the Scotland Yard command structure in the run-up to the shooting on a train at Stockwell London Underground station on July 22, 2005 and "systematic failures" in how information was handled.

His comments came as he published his recommendations to Scotland Yard and the Home Office on the case following a three-month inquest last year.

He said it had become clear that officers had been allowed to work on their accounts together "for a period of many hours".

"There was a stark difference between their experience and the treatment of civilians, who were required to give their accounts promptly and independently," he said.

"Officers were not cross-examined on the basis that their evidence was the product of independent recollection."

Mr de Menezes was shot dead following a mix-up as police pursued suspects following a failed series of bombings in the capital the previous day.

The inquest jury returned an open verdict on the shooting after Sir Michael ruled out the possibility of finding unlawful killing.

But they rejected officers' evidence that they shouted "armed police" before opening fire and disputed that the Brazilian had walked towards officers before he was killed.

Sir Michael said that the "unprecedented" situation faced by officers, after the failed bombings the day before, offered some explanation for the shooting.

But he said that the verdict nevertheless pointed to "systematic failures" and called for procedures on how information identifying suspects is passed on to be reviewed.

Nick Hardwick, chairman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission, called for "determined and continuing efforts" to prevent a repeat of the failures which led to the tragedy.

The Justice4Jean campaign group said a public debate about what it called the "shoot-to kill policy" is long overdue.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...-by-police.html

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03-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Post: #35
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That's it? Normally an official Iquiry or Inquest gives a list of recommendations on preventing further occurrances.
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03-05-2009, 05:42 PM (This post was last modified: 03-05-2009 06:01 PM by ---.)
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They can kill any of us and get away with it, as you know.

I have the feeling he was externally involved in some manner and was 'shut up' - although that, of course should be 'shot up'

My opinion is that we really need to start discussing how to amass our data in a succinct form with corroborating proofs in a way that it can work as an outreach to those already concerned about state abuses but compromised in free thought due to the 'anti semitic' bluff - and the comparative of islam to, for that matter

and then move forward to hitting those forums.

I read the discussion on anarchism and it's freemasonic roots that plasticfan linked to and it is lamentable the amount of non-thinking that was apparent in that so called 'radical' scene. I spent almost a decade involved in the same scenes and it needs a healthy slap asap. If only because they are 'do'ers' not just talkers - as it is the infiltrators have free reign:(

It's even worse here in Germany because of the scars the young Hegelians have left, especially in the wake of, and due to, nazism.

We have the potential to be doing more with our knowledge base and skill sets - even if it is 'only' internet based

We are a combination of such diverse perspective - yet finding a unity of voice that openly can debate itself - we don't realise our own potentialities as a voice imho
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11-23-2009, 09:12 AM
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RE: Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
The final insult: How family of innocent Brazilian shot dead on Tube will get just a fraction of £400k pay-off for blundering Met boss Blair

Quote:The family of Jean Charles de Menezes are to receive reduced compensation because they are so poor.

The limited financial support they could have received from the Brazilian electrician - shot dead by police marksmen - will also count against them.

Lawyers for Scotland Yard and the family are believed to have reached an out-of-court settlement.

Although the amount is covered by a confidentiality clause, sources said it would have been much higher if Mr de Menezes, 27, had left a widow and children or came from a wealthy family.

But when he died in 2005, his parents were living in a dilapidated one-bedroom house deep in the Brazilian rainforest.

The family's lawyers had suggested they would claim £300,000 from the Metropolitan Police for the disastrous operation that led to their son being mistaken for a suicide bomber and shot seven times in the head at Stockwell Tube station.

But it now appears the final pay-out could be as low as £100,000.

That represents just a quarter of the £400,000 pay-off received by former Met chief Sir Ian Blair, who faced calls to resign over the shooting, was condemned by the Independent Police Complaints Commission and heard his marksmen branded liars by an inquest jury.

It is even less than police paid out 23 years ago to an innocent man severely wounded by armed officers in similar circumstances.

The parents of Stephen Lawrence received £300,000 in compensation for the police blunders that left his killers free and Colin Stagg was paid £706,000 in state compensation - not by the police - after years of being wrongly suspected of murdering Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon Common.

The de Menezes family have so far received £15,000 from Scotland Yard to cover flying their son's body home and his funeral.

As he was not officially the victim of a crime, they are not entitled to criminal injuries compensation.

Negotiations on a final payment began last week and a deal is expected to be confirmed in the next few days.

Meanwhile Sir Ian, who was condemned by the IPCC for blocking their investigation of the shooting for five days, is also set to make a six-figure sum from his memoirs, in which he comments at length on the case.

In an interview to promote the book, he suggested that had the two marksmen not killed the wrong man, they could have been candidates for George Medals.

Mr de Menezes was shot dead on July 22, 2005, after anti-terror police mistook him for bomber Hussain Osman.

Osman and four fellow terrorists had gone on the run the previous day after trying to copy the July 7 London attacks which killed 52 people and injured 977.

At the inquest on Mr de Menezes last December, the jury pointed to a catalogue of police failings.

They rejected the marksmen's evidence and sided with Tube passengers who said the officers failed to issue a warning. The policemen's claim that Mr de Menezes walked towards them was also dismissed.

The jury returned an open verdict, the most critical option available, after the coroner told them there was insufficient evidence to rule that Mr de Menezes was unlawfully killed.

Relatives of the Brazilian called the hearing a 'whitewash' and accused coroner Sir Michael Wright of 'gagging' the jury.

The three-month inquest followed a £300,000 investigation by the IPCC and a £1million trial at which the Metropolitan police were found guilty of health and safety failings and fined £175,000.

Legal costs for the inquest, paid for by taxpayers, are expected to reach £8million.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Blair.html

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11-23-2009, 09:44 AM
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Racist fucking pigs
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11-23-2009, 09:45 AM
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RE: Menezes shooting inquest *Verdict Given*
wtf happened to the daily mail??
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11-29-2009, 10:29 PM
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this was a fucking disaster of justice
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