Do you own a cell phone?

[stanteau]

I do NOT for all the obvious reasons PLUS just can't afford it. People always say how do you know peoples numbers? I write 'em down and put 'em in my wallet. How do you call someone outside your house? Ask enough people and someone will let you use one.

Plus, I HATE being on the phone in the first palce for more than 1 minute.

[strawman]

Quote:I do NOT for all the obvious reasons PLUS just can't afford it. People always say how do you know peoples numbers? I write 'em down and put 'em in my wallet. How do you call someone outside your house? Ask enough people and someone will let you use one.

Plus, I HATE being on the phone in the first palce for more than 1 minute.

I hate the phone. Hate it. I have one, initially for contact in family emergencies. Made the mistake of giving the number to friends and now I get calls to say 'I'm just killing time' to which my response is 'I'm killing something too - this call' CLICK. Pay as you go only - no onerous contract. The phone itself is 5yrs old (sans GPS chip I believe) and it may or may not be in my name....

but what's in a name anyways? LOL

Remembering numbers - repeat em 7 or 8 times to yourself in a comfortable cadence and the brain takes care of the rest. Just don't tell the kiddies that.

[harflimon]

I dont own one. I probably wouldn't use it even if I did. Not much of a phone person. Plus I hate the idea of people always being able to contact me. If I'm not at home why would I want people calling me?

[April]

good topic stan!

and HA!! you people are so awesome!

I HATE the phone too!
My love and I share a cell phone......... my mom forced it on us two years ago. before that, it was three years that we both went with out a cell phone.

the phone now serves as his alarm clock...... and emergencies only! it hardly gets used and we like it that way! we are NOT phone people either! shoot, even the house phone we can’t stand! :pfft:

it’s funny how people change too i guess. long before i was “awake” around 2000 i used to, monthly, rack up 5 to $600 cell phone bills. Had two of them.......:rolleyes:
daniel remembers when he’d walk in the door and i’d have one on both ears ( i still hear it about that! ) Not any more though.... no thanks..... and i’m sure for all the same reasons you folks have.... and money being the last one. we joke with people and tell em we use carrier pigeons to relay our messages! :grin:

applause to all of you who DON'T have one though! B)

[B4Time]

same here no cell and I hate phones any phone.Not to worry though the way things are going here anyway(US) we will be back to the pony express in no time lol.

[Easy Skanking]

Well, I own one but it hasn't had service or been used in maybe three years now. Even when I did have it, I didn't really like having it and rarely used it. When I started doing phone sales in '96, it was the last thing I wanted to have anything to do with.
If I need to contact someone, I'll just modulate the Schumann resonance like Tesla planned.:D

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not got one - really don't like them but might have to get one soon - hopefully I'll be able to find an old generation model free of the GPS incorporations which can also be unlocked to accept a pay as you go SIM. I still use phone boxes.

[yeti]

They don't need a GPS chip to track you. They can triangulate you from the cell tower positions and signal strength.

[mothandrust]

Quote:They don't need a GPS chip to track you. They can triangulate you from the cell tower positions and signal strength.

even when it's off

[DJOldskool]

No mobile here, I am a family man so I dont have a hectic social life. They contact me by phone or my wifes mobile.

Had one a few years ago, pay as you go, would you beleive I lost it in a phone box as I ran out of credit and needed a number from it.

[ploder]

Great topic. Yes, I do have an old pay as you go Nokia 6610 that I keep on me for emergencies but always have off unless making outgoing call. I am loathe to own one, but have grudgingly realised that it is difficult to have any kind of relationship with most people unless you have one these days. They have this thing about 'paranoia', which they define as being against the paranoia of mass surveillance (and I'm paranoid?!). It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that most of the technology we have these days is built to be relatively insecure by default, so being against Big Brother will inevitably lead to becoming isolated from the sheeple by adopting increased security or foregoing such technology altogether.

Quote:They don't need a GPS chip to track you. They can triangulate you from the cell tower positions and signal strength.

Quote:even when it's off

I thought that 'feature' was only present in the newer models. Do you have any further information, e.g which models of phones allow for this?

[SiLVa]

Yeah...I got one. When my father got a bunch for the business, he included one for my mom, my brother and I. Ive had it ever since. I use it more than any other phone(house,pay phone).
I much rather not have the phone, because people know when im not picking up, but I dont really care. I press the ignore button often, and I only answer calls from those that I program in the phone. I dont mind talkin on the phone that much, but long conversations arent something i like to do over the phone anyway. The recent health issues have been weighing on my mind as well.

I may wind up getting rid of it soon, but since the business is paying for it, Im using it. It would be damn near impossible getting in touch with me otherwise though, Im barely ever home and when I am, its usually late at night when everyone else in my time zone is snoring away.

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Quote:Had one a few years ago, pay as you go, would you believe I lost it in a phone box as I ran out of credit and needed a number from it.

ROFL

[stanteau]

I wonder if text messaging will become some "forgotten language" in the archeological records 5000 years from now

[rsol]

Quote:Great topic. Yes, I do have an old pay as you go Nokia 6610 that I keep on me for emergencies but always have off unless making outgoing call. I am loathe to own one, but have grudgingly realised that it is difficult to have any kind of relationship with most people unless you have one these days. They have this thing about 'paranoia', which they define as being against the paranoia of mass surveillance (and I'm paranoid?!). It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that most of the technology we have these days is built to be relatively insecure by default, so being against Big Brother will inevitably lead to becoming isolated from the sheeple by adopting increased security or foregoing such technology altogether.

Quote:They don't need a GPS chip to track you. They can triangulate you from the cell tower positions and signal strength.

Quote:even when it's off

I thought that 'feature' was only present in the newer models. Do you have any further information, e.g which models of phones allow for this?

Its a funny one here. Off doesn't mean off. Its on standby. Thats probably the best way to say it. This means that most of the power does not go to the chips involved in video or audio etc, just the circuits for actually putting the power to the chips and thus POST of the phone and then full boot. Unless you look into the circuitry of each phone you couldn't tell what functions are actually working before you boot.

I have some doubts as to what IS on while on standby mode. You dont need anything really except the power circuits. Any more will waste your battery.

As far as tracking? 2 options. Your phone is constantly sending a signal that gets picked up as a "phone switched off" message or nothing is sent and anyone trying to contact you will be met with a message saying "the phone you are trying to contact is switched off"

one can be tracked constantly and the other can be tracked on an incidental/ past tense record of the last place the phone was switched on. One requires a small outlay of power and requires some chips to function. The transceiver with access to your SIM needs to be on to do that sort of operation.

A simple experiment for anyone to try at home, Turn on your stereo at home and place your phone near a speaker. best nearer to the wires or the very back of the speaker, find which works best.

If you ask a friend to phone you, the phone will interfere with the speaker 1/2second before it rings. This is called a "handshake." In order for your phone to communicate with the towers around your area it has to say hello now and again. If you get a phone call the tower already number phone you have, the provider and your location as now and again it will blip (on the speakers) telling the nearby towers that its in the area. That is the standard location seeking protocol for mobiles. This interference is VERY strong (my GFs phone has killed my mouse circuitry before)

Now for your phone to be switched off. Try and ring yourself. see if you get a signal. Then just wait for a while for the phone to make any noises through the speaker. if its switched off for 1/2 an hour and no signals then you are in the clear. Please dont be fooled into thinking it may be a weaker signal, this still has to communicate through the same medium.

As far as my worries about mobile phones are not so much on a global/national scale but on a localized scale. The radiation in these things seems to increase by the year. No one seems to care about it. I can imagine that the brain tumor rates with hit the roof in a few more years as the first people like me have their brains scrammed by all this binary radio signaling so close to the brain.