[split] Server Bandwidth Overage Charges

[Krise]

diplomacy and etiquette went a bit out of hands on both ends in the original discussion, but the final ban feels still like an overreaction to me. Epinnoias threats are not justifiable, but they don't proof that he's an asshole, but only that he can easily be turned into one. And up to now they are still only threats in the virtual realm, while you yeti made facts with releasing his personal email address. Ok, so things escalated, Epinnoia is breaking a fly on the wheel and makes enemeties with the whole community for getting his account back. What a burden to live with. Why not give it back to him so the whole madness can dissolve? I don't think he can/will see it as a triumph, -hopefully it would just bring sanity and reason back into function.

Don't know if the comparism works, but Emperor Wilhelm of Germany suggested several times to the allies during WW1 to get back to the original borders and forget about all the nonsense, -while the german troops were all on 'enemies' territory, like, in a superior position. If all had agreed, there wouldn't have been a WWII and maybe, just maybe, we would all live in a better world...

just my 2 cents, and, admittedly not capable of judging the original technical discussion about data throughput

[HaveBlue]

Shame Shane to be insane.

[yeti]

(05-23-2012 02:47 PM)Krise Wrote:  Epinnoias threats are not justifiable, but they don't proof that he's an asshole

Please explain to me how it is acceptable for a member to repeatedly lie about [the sole person who is legally sticking his neck on the line to run this place] in a highly insulting manner, even accusing me of defrauding ConCen.

(05-23-2012 02:47 PM)Krise Wrote:  you yeti made facts with releasing his personal email address

After he was banned he sent multiple threats to my personal email address. These threats are against the entire ConCen community! Yet you seem to have a problem with me publishing his email address, as though creeps like him deserve to be protected while they attempt to destroy. Sorry Krise, I'm not about to enable creeps to take this place down under cover of anonymity. Shame on you for suggesting I should.

(05-23-2012 02:47 PM)Krise Wrote:  Why not give it back to him so the whole madness can dissolve?

1. Caving in to madmen like him doesn't cure their madness
2. I don't give in to blackmail

The kind of spineless gibbering jellyfish that would give in to creeps like Epinnoia is not the kind of person who stands up year after year as the sole person that TPTB can go after, even providing his own street address, wouldn't you say?

[yeti]

(05-23-2012 01:45 PM)Tim77 Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 12:19 PM)yeti Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 12:10 PM)Tim77 Wrote:  Trolling or other of these 'minor' disagreements should not be reasons for banning.

Most moderated sites just delete the offender completely. Would you prefer that?

Concen is a conspiracy site and should be of a higher standard then other so called forums. For we fight for freedom and justice and indict the current powers for their handling of affairs.

Lets raise the bar so that others may follow.

The bar has already been raised - banned people's comments are left uncensored.

Anyway what you're describing is great and all, but has nothing to do with banning trolls or assholes like Epinnoia because they bring nothing but bullshit and animosity to the table - something the conspiracy community has too much of already.

[April]

Again…

Dear Eppinoia: I stopped blogging around two months ago. Leaving comments on my blog about your situation with yeti is pointless, slightly rude, and way off topic in my opinion. I published the first one… but my blog is not your venting stomping ground so send me an email instead if your so inclined. I too…. will be addressing you here.


@ everyone else….
I've had a family guest staying at my house unexpectedly since saturday. And it's undetermined how long he's staying. I have almost zero time to be on the net while he is here. All the mods are aware that i need this "time off"…. and most importantly they understand that I trust their judgement.

I agree with 99% of what Frank2 has said also… except I don't have any issues with how yeti has handled the situation.
Raising the bar IMO, often includes the disbanding of unstable hating trolls and agents.

Because of the duration of this affair….. I'm starting to feel like it's becoming a distraction over things we should ultimately be focusing on instead, and I kinda wish we could go our separate ways, bury the hatchet, or move on one way or another…

You members have seen all the articles FOR YEARS that are mainstream and public about what the cyber task forces jobs are!!!! Some jerks out there, are paid to create distrust, arguments, and ridiculous drama in higher traffic truth and conspiracy communities…. and what is it that your witnessing right now ? ?

United we stand, divided we fall ? ? ?

[yeti]

Here is the latest email from everybody's favourite asshole:

Subject: LOL

Quote:You are such a transparent joke. Either/or, bifurcated mindset -- typically found in children. Where's the option to only seed up to max on that 1TB line? You won't do it, will ya? It's either SEED or NO SEED. METERED or UNMETERED. You don't know how to actually break down the REAL options, because you are a money grubbing drunk lying thief.

Now that I absolutely PROVED that you were a liar, using the Socratic Method, you took the link down to the thread that contains the proof of your lies. Replacing it with a poll that doesn't give all the real options -- just the two that you're willing to entertain. The fact is, you said that you had no way to monitor the bandwidth when I challenged you on it. And then, when I told you that most responsible sysadmins had MRTG installed, you quipped off saying that you had such tools, but never bothered using them. You'd have to be majorly retarded to not see how I caught you up in a lie there. In fact, I suspect you know I did, and that's why you're no longer driving traffic to that post. So transparent, it's not even funny.

In any case, it doesn't matter. PayPal is getting notified tonight. And so is your ISP. I'm done with your drunk a$$. I have said all that I can on the matter, and gave you as many chances/opportunites to eat that humble pie as many times as possible as well. Now, it's fireworks time. I won't rest until you are dethroned now. It's time to release....the KRAKEN.

[Ibgbg]

[April]

(05-20-2012 07:35 PM)Swordfish Wrote:  

Quote:OK so do you appreciate or even acknowledge the fact that I leave up the words of all the assholes I've banned, and how much better that is for the members, but how much worse it is for me because it gives assholes like you more ammo?

In the middle ages in England it was quite common for those who disagreed with the leader to have their heads cut off and stuck on a spike at the city entrance to provide an indication of the consequences of disagreeing.

In German/Japanese prisoner of war camps it was common to shoot escaping prisoners and leave them rotting over the barbed wire as an example to others.

I wonder if the leaders felt they were putting their own credibility at risk, or making it worse for themselves in those days?

The person holding the ban hammer or doing the cyber scalping can receive unwarranted guilt trips also.

Yeti and Ctrl have/had a bunch of scalps hanging from their belts…. IMO, it's definitely proved to be an imperatively essential position that we may not have survived without!

Some people act like banning members is only done by egotistical power tripping megalomaniacs. It's definitely not always the case!!! Banning people also requires courage, a backbone, and standards… cowards could never touch the ban button.

[shortwave]

(05-23-2012 05:31 PM)April Wrote:  You members have seen all the articles FOR YEARS that are mainstream and public about what the cyber task forces jobs are!!!! Some jerks out there, are paid to create distrust, arguments, and ridiculous drama in higher traffic truth and conspiracy communities…. and what is it that your witnessing right now ? ?

United we stand, divided we fall ? ? ?

And there were widely published reports that Cass Sunstein was going to do exactly that. I am not saying that is the case here for sure, but to threaten to take down or tear apart a conspiracy oriented site would within the goals that the published reports said could happen.

And I keep hearing all these broadcasts and reports from the alternative news media stating that the next couple of months we could be entering a critical time period.

It would seem highly suspicious that this site could go down or even being in jeopardy of being 'shut down' before the expected events were to happen.

Which points to this...IF ConCen goes dark... then those reports about Cass are... 100% correct and yes the SHTF will happen soon.


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[h3rm35]

Yeti... any chance you could post this asshat´s physical address?

I think I´d like to mail him a letter...

[yeti]

(05-23-2012 07:38 PM)h3rm35 Wrote:  Yeti... any chance you could post this asshat´s physical address?

I think I´d like to mail him a letter...

If the site goes down because of him, I'm guessing there will more than a few that would like that info.

A few have dismissed the creep as bluffing, but I can't take that chance. I'm pretty confident that 3Z will tell him to go fuck himself, but PayPal has shut down people's accounts before, including ConCen's when Mike was running it. They claimed they received a complaint that he was running a hate site and froze the funds for months.

[Tim77]

Quote: Banning people also requires courage, a backbone, and standards… cowards could never touch the ban button.

thats cool april, give me the admin power to bann and i will show lots of courage! Muhaha the power the power

Colonel Khadaffi enjoyed it for 40 years, he seemed sane didn't he?

lets party!

[zapoper7]

@ April's quote.

[Whitetrash]

Well Epinnoia, if you want to go after yeti, you need the help of Ranae and BoBo. Their the experts.

[Frank2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Svwm_k9hYk