Boy kept home after school insists he cuts off ponytail

[Dunamis]

(09-24-2011 10:07 PM)Armilus Wrote:  One of the characteristics of the new aeon is...

Don't you mean new age, golden dawn, age of enlightenment, "ascension" of mankind's consciousness?

You sound like your the type of person that may be tempted to label some as profane and unworthy.

[Armilus]

Nah, not that "love and light" delusion. But i don't really understand what you mean by labeling...

Eon i am talking about is just a natural cycle of how society evolves, and change doesn't happen instantaneously, like on 2012 or something like that. It happens gradually over decades, even centuries.

[Dunamis]

Ah, so you envision a world where civilisation goes to the "next level" or something similar? A bit like the Venus Project maybe? That would explain the language used such as the "new aeon" and "personal rights and freedoms are secondary to what is best for the society".

Well, I envision a world where "civilisation" mentality has ended and a return pas the tribe/family mentality has occurred, and we have progressed to a love of all through a love of what is within. Such can never be achieved through nationalism, civilisation or societal change.

[Armilus]

Again, no. Venus project sounds like a Marxist/communist utopia, plus they are hardcore atheists. At the same time they are sending DMCA notices to people who dared to spread their videos over the net. That says it all. They are hypocrites, just like early Soviet leaders, who had villas near Black Sea while preaching equality to starved population. Should be all killed.

Your utopia also would need a change of society and civilization in general, so you may be contradicting yourself, as it appears to be the norm with all those "love & light" utopias. Endless love and not being aware of the greater society is something like being stoned and worry only about your few colleagues. Doesn't work that way, especially if spiritual awareness of people remains on this primitive level. It sounds like escapism, denial of this world.

Look at human history, you will see cyclical changes on societal level. There are also bigger aeonic cycles, you had one before monotheism was introduced, then one more which is ending now, and the new aeon already started, but it doesn't happen overnight, change is gradual and you may see it all around you. If anything it is causing a lot of wars, not love and peace. This will intensify and many more will die in the process, which is not always bad, for instance Renaissance and the Enlightenment came after the Black Death. This time Renaissance will be even greater.

[Dunamis]

(09-25-2011 01:00 PM)Armilus Wrote:  Your utopia also would need a change of society and civilization in general, so you may be contradicting yourself, as it appears to be the norm with all those "love & light" utopias.

I didn't suggest I want or even believe a "Utopia" is possible at the hands of man alone? So, I'm not "contradicting" myself, only the words you are now putting into my mouth. I typed of an end to the civilisation mentality.

And to then suggest I believe in some "love & light" utopia is total BS.

(09-25-2011 01:00 PM)Armilus Wrote:  Endless love and not being aware of the greater society is something like being stoned and worry only about your few colleagues. Doesn't work that way, especially if spiritual awareness of people remains on this primitive level. It sounds like escapism, denial of this world.

Clearly your view of what love is, and mine, are very different.

Love to me includes, but is not limited to, putting others BEFORE yourself. Clearly escapism and worrying "only about your few colleagues" is contradictory to the idea of loving your neighbours.

So clearly, if your definition of love is that of a selfish state of mind, our definitions differ greatly.

[Hans Olo]

My point is, if you don't like the rules of a private school, just send your kids to another school and all is fine. Government run schools are different, because you pay for them either way. So, again, abolish the public school system and have the free market take care of the problem. Besides, education would be cheaper, too if the government stopped subsidizing it.

[R.R]

Can't believe I missed this thread, especially as I have a ponytail myself!

Anyway long haired males have been the norm for most of human history.

An amusing article:

Quote:Iran promotes 'Islamic' haircuts

July 07, 2010|By Saeed Ahmed and Mitra Mobasherat, CNN

Iran has laid down the law: mullets won't make the cut.

The Islamic regime, which strictly enforces head coverings for women, issued grooming guidelines for the guys this week.

Among the do's that are now don'ts? The '80's Prince-style pompadour preferred by many young Iranian men, the Steven Seagal-style ponytail and the "business in the front, party in the back" sentiment of the mullet -- also popular among the Persian populace.

The approved styles have a distinctly 1950s look to them: short on the front and sides for the most part. But the gel-slathered, combed-back 1980s look also received the government's blessing.

The "Islamic" haircuts were unveiled at the Hijab and Chastity Festival, a fashion event designed to show how the country's youth can be stylish yet not run afoul of the fashion police.

"Hair styles have been designed based on the shape of the neck, beard, the size of the chin and provincial cultures," said Jaleh Khodayar, the secretary of the festival. Her comments were reported by the semiofficial Mehr news agency.

"In designing these hair styles, we have not tried to go backward. On the contrary, we have tried to make our designs a mixture of our traditions and Iranian culture, as well as the latest fashions and by doing so confront the cultural assault by the West (on our country)."

Majid, a 32-year-old Tehran resident who did not want to give out his last name, shrugged his head in amusement.

"I don't think these young men will stop wearing these hairstyles, even though in my opinion they are actually pretty strange," he said.

He prefers his own hair on the short side.

To the outside world, the crackdown on cuts may represent further restrictions by an already restrictive regime.

But in one way, they are a loosening of guidelines: None of the photographs of acceptable grooming styles feature models with full-grown beards -- a look, a la President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, that Iran had encouraged for years.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-07/world...s=PM:WORLD

I guess the Iranians were preparing their population for the coming Western attacks.

[SiLVa]

Interesting article I read recently that may or may not be relevant. I dont even know the validity of this, but it was still pretty interesting.
Kind of made me think about the old wives tales of "womens intuition" and possibly how statistically more women claim to have psychic "abilities" than men - perhaps its all in the hair?

Quote:The Truth About Hair and Why Indians Would Keep Their Hair Long

This information about hair has been hidden from the public since the Viet Nam War .

Our culture leads people to believe that hair style is a matter of personal preference, that hair style is a matter of fashion and/or convenience, and that how people wear their hair is simply a cosmetic issue. Back in the Vietnam war however, an entirely different picture emerged, one that has been carefully covered up and hidden from public view.

In the early nineties, Sally [name changed to protect privacy] was married to a licensed psychologist who worked at a VA Medical hospital. He worked with combat veterans with PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder. Most of them had served in Vietnam.

Sally said, "I remember clearly an evening when my husband came back to our apartment on Doctor's Circle carrying a thick official looking folder in his hands. Inside were hundreds of pages of certain studies commissioned by the government. He was in shock from the contents. What he read in those documents completely changed his life. From that moment on my conservative middle of the road husband grew his hair and beard and never cut them again. What is more, the VA Medical center let him do it, and other very conservative men in the staff followed his example.

As I read the documents, I learned why. It seems that during the Vietnam War special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural, tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival.

With the usual enticements, the well proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these Indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field.

Serious causalities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found.

When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied consistently that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer 'sense' the enemy, they could no longer access a 'sixth sense', their 'intuition' no longer was reliable, they couldn't 'read' subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information.

So the testing institute recruited more Indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests. They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests.

Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores.

Here is a Typical Test:

The recruit is sleeping out in the woods. An armed 'enemy' approaches the sleeping man. The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible.

In another version of this test the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his 'sixth sense' and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and 'kills' him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him.

This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistently failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed.

So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long."

Comment:

The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive. Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.

Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brain stem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.

Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.

When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .

Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration.

Conclusion:

In searching for solutions for the distress in our world, it may be time for us to consider that many of our most basic assumptions about reality are in error. It may be that a major part of the solution is looking at us in the face each morning when we see ourselves in the mirror.

The story of Sampson and Delilah in the Bible has a lot of encoded truth to tell us. When Delilah cut Sampson's hair, the once undefeatable Sampson was defeated.

Reported by C. Young
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/234783...-Hair-Long

[thokling]

Whoah. Dude.

[Easy Skanking]

Interesting articles, you two. Thanks.

Subconsciously, I knew there was something like this going on, Silva. I could use it as justification for me having long hair but I won't. To me it just seemed wrong to cut my hair. I've had it long and kept it long since 1986. I can't remember being much concerned about hair when I had short hair but I do get strong intuitive flashes in dangerous situations and they have never proved me wrong after growing it out. I can remember a distinct lack of any king of feelings like that before I let it grow out, though. One thing I have always felt was this subtle pressure to cut it from no pinpoint-able source. Must be the attempted societal programming trying to get me under control. That could be one reason that I just flat out tell people to fuck off when they mention me getting it cut. heheh
METALHEADZ RULE!!! LOL

[thokling]

I started growing my hair at a really young age (13 or so), and in 1997 a couple of lesbian friends shaved it off and bought us pizza, and I've my hair short or shaved since. After reading SiLVa's post, I'm going to grow it and my beard long again and see if anything happens to my own perception.

[R.R]

Interesting article SilVa.

I can only share my experience with long hair and that is I feel it has helped me be more, well, me. It helped tremendously in becoming more of an individual. I've had several styles in the past, spikey, skinhead, curtains, short back and sides but I always preferred it longer. I didn't choose to have it long out of some need to be different - I simply liked the style.

Anyway I got the looks and comments - I was once called a woman, to which I replied if you know women with beards I feel sorry for you. But all these things helped me grow stronger mentally and in some schools of thought, that process is required to become an individual and break through social conditioning which apparently has a spiritual component to it in itself - mental strength leading to individuality. I'm not saying long hair is necessary simply the process and for me a part of that was achieved with having a hairstyle nobody else had or was very rare which I decided to have because I wanted to have it - not to be seperate from the crowd or even to be apart of the crowd, but simply for, in a cynical way, selfish purposes. Judging by the variations of hairdos I've seen people have, I know most people my age simply have their hairstyles because it is either fashionable or they are following the latest trend - basically they are not being themselves and are looking for acceptance and thus conform, meaning they'll rarely ever realise their God-given individuality. This doesn't simply apply to hair but for several other things and unfortunately in the western world, people follow fads and trends instead of being themselves and a little creative - much to the detriment of their own personal development.

Anyway if one studies long-hair, they'll find men allover the world generally had it long. The shaven head in ancient Greece was reserved for slaves to set them apart - a marker if you will. A similar instance occured around World War I in that the short hair of the soldier was a sign of servitude or peasantry. Look at the number of deities that have been depicted with long hair - nevermind Jesus but the classic depiction of God is of a bearded long-haired man. Zeus, Thor and many Hindu deities are depicted with long hair which was followed suit by the various cults that sprang up from their worship. The ponytail itself sort of stems from a pragmatic approach to being on the battlefield before guns were used. Simply put, your hair could be grabbed by an opponent - problem solved by tying it back. Some have even claimed the mullet goes back to this concept many hundreds of years ago with the Huns. This fascination with the hair being short amongst the masses virtually stemmed from an acceptance of somebody else telling them what was acceptable in society and is essentially what long haired elites deemed a relevant hairstyle for commoners. Fuck that, I am free to make my own choices as is everybody else.

Besides if we're talking about 'natural' fair enough babies aren't born with long hair but scissors aren't exactly provided to you by nature now are they? Female babies aren't born with breasts either. A deeper consideration is that if one studies 'the conspiracy', it is basically a war on all that is natural - remoulding creation if you will. Perhaps the short hair thing emphasises that a bit more. I'm not surprised the Native Americans keep their hair long and seem to come to similar conclusions about the world in terms of certain groups trying to push 'progress' and concluding it is not exactly a better way of living.

[SiLVa]

Cool, glad you guys found that as interesting as I did. I used to have my hair longer than I do now, and I really have wanted to grow it out longer recently. I just havent. Its more of a lazyness thing. I get it cut short and I dont have to groom it or anything, its just easier to deal with. You guys are making me want to say fuck it and start growing it out again. lol

[thokling]

It does take more effort than if short, but if the payoff is worth it, so be it.

[Easy Skanking]

So now that the length of hair apparently has some effect, I wonder if there is any kind of difference between straight and curly or brushed out or dreadlocks?

Mine's curly. Does that mean I get "better reception" due to a more complex "antenna"? LOL
Does this unusual effect operate on the same principles as a regular logarithmic antenna in comparison to a fractal antenna for example? hehe

As to the original article, I can definitely see modern day humans being forced towards shorter hairstyles due to mainstream societal programming as put out by fashion. The Army report brought it up in a somewhat mainstream venue. I wonder if this is something that is taught in a more esoteric and hidden area. I could see hair length used as a tool to further remove us from our connections to our surroundings. I wonder if this is something that is actively acted on or if this is just another aspect of cookie-cutter society.

EDIT: After a bit of searching, I found this interesting paper.
The Raj Singh Collection: "The significance of male hair-Its presence and removal"