Boy kept home after school insists he cuts off ponytail

[Dunamis]

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  Yes, i know, it may sound "fascist" and people may cry, but order and discipline are needed if you want a healthy and strong society. Besides, not all schools require this, so they can find some other school, if they are so sensitive and offended.

Order and discipline, sure. I only wish I had more such discipline when I was younger, I'd probably be much better at self discipline and not still struggling with it at almost 30!

But to suggest that a rule regarding males having long hair in school beings such "order and discipline" is completely absurd. Schools had much stricter policies in the past, and yet they have given rise to the society you yourself deplore.

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  Besides, not all schools require this, so they can find some other school, if they are so sensitive and offended.

I don't think you read the article to well, they have pulled their child out of school, so they have done just this. But to suggest it would be because they are so "sensitive and offended" is a little unreasonable, they, like myself, Djones and Pax, may just see the absurdity of allowing pure aesthetics to come into the way a school is run and not agree with it or comply.

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  This issue is much deeper than stupid ponytails.

So they are "stupid" now? Are you sure you don't just disagree with long hair on men?

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  Society became lazy, disorganized and weak.

When did this happen? You consider this a recent occurrence?

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  This is the reason people can be manipulated left and right, and they never can organize properly.[/b]

WHAT?

Are you suggesting that in some recent time this has come about? That mankind has not always allowed itself to be manipulated and controlled by a few? I'd love to hear more on your theories of this better" world that used to exist.

(09-24-2011 03:20 AM)Armilus Wrote:  Only when people realize their personal rights and freedoms are secondary to what is best for the society, only then order will prevail and defeating corruption will be something natural.

Quite simplistic there. Do you not already realise that most people here are those that put others before themselves?

But what you are doing is taking the choice to have freedom to choose hair length and connecting it to defeating corruption. That's a LONG shot.

Your above last statement also is used to justify, but not limited to, the following:

• War against nations such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba
• Trade Embargo's on nations such as Palestine and Iran
• Eugenics and forced sterilisation
• Sex education for under 10's
• The sacrifice of liberty for security
  

And I agree with Jefferson in that, "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

Sadly the argument you pose it the same as that of elitists, Freemasons and those pushing for World government.