FDA approves computer chip for humans

[TriWooOx]

Quote:Medical milestone or privacy invasion? A tiny computer chip approved Wednesday for implantation in a patient’s arm can speed vital information about a patient’s medical history to doctors and hospitals. But critics warn that it could open new ways to imperil the confidentiality of medical records.

The Food and Drug Administration said Wednesday that Applied Digital Solutions of Delray Beach, Fla., could market the VeriChip, an implantable computer chip about the size of a grain of rice, for medical purposes.

With the pinch of a syringe, the microchip is inserted under the skin in a procedure that takes less than 20 minutes and leaves no stitches. Silently and invisibly, the dormant chip stores a code that releases patient-specific information when a scanner passes over it.

Think UPC code. The identifier, emblazoned on a food item, brings up its name and price on the cashier’s screen.

Chip's dual uses raise alarm
The VeriChip itself contains no medical records, just codes that can be scanned, and revealed, in a doctor’s office or hospital. With that code, the health providers can unlock that portion of a secure database that holds that person’s medical information, including allergies and prior treatment. The electronic database, not the chip, would be updated with each medical visit.

The microchips have already been implanted in 1 million pets. But the chip’s possible dual use for tracking people’s movements — as well as speeding delivery of their medical information to emergency rooms — has raised alarm.

“If privacy protections aren’t built in at the outset, there could be harmful consequences for patients,” said Emily Stewart, a policy analyst at the Health Privacy Project.

To protect patient privacy, the devices should reveal only vital medical information, like blood type and allergic reactions, needed for health care workers to do their jobs, Stewart said.

An information technology guru at Detroit Medical Center, however, sees the benefits of the devices and will lobby for his center’s inclusion in a VeriChip pilot program.

“One of the big problems in health care has been the medical records situation. So much of it is still on paper,” said David Ellis, the center’s chief futurist and co-founder of the Michigan Electronic Medical Records Initiative.

'Part of the future of medicine'
As “medically mobile” patients visit specialists for care, their records fragment on computer systems that don’t talk to each other.

“It’s part of the future of medicine to have these kinds of technologies that make life simpler for the patient,” Ellis said. Pushing for the strongest encryption algorithms to ensure hackers can’t nab medical data as information transfers from chip to reader to secure database, will help address privacy concerns, he said.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on Wednesday announced $139 million in grants to help make real President Bush’s push for electronic health records for most Americans within a decade.

William A. Pierce, an HHS spokesman, could not say whether VeriChip and its accompanying secure database of medical records fit within that initiative.

“Exactly what those technologies are is still to be sorted out,” Pierce said. “It all has to respect and comport with the privacy rules.”

Applied Digital gave away scanners to a few hundred animal shelters and veterinary clinics when it first entered the pet market 15 years ago. Now, 50,000 such scanners have been sold.

To kickstart the chip’s use among humans, Applied Digital will provide $650 scanners for free at 200 of the nation’s trauma centers.

Implantation costs $150 to $200
In pets, installing the chip runs about $50. For humans, the chip implantation cost would be $150 to $200, said Angela Fulcher, an Applied Digital spokeswoman.

Fulcher could not say whether the cost of data storage and encrypted transmission of medical information would be passed to providers.

Because the VeriChip is invisible, it’s also unclear how health care workers would know which unconscious patients to scan. Company officials say if the chip use becomes routine, scanning triceps for hidden chips would become second nature at hospitals.

Ultimately, the company hopes patients who suffer from such ailments as diabetes and Alzheimer’s or who undergo complex treatments, like chemotherapy, would have chips implanted. If the procedure proves as popular for use in humans as in pets, that could mean up to 1 million chips implanted in people. So far, just 1,000 people across the globe have had the devices implanted, very few of them in the United States.

The company’s chief executive officer, Scott R. Silverman, is one of a half dozen executives who had chips implanted. Silverman said chips implanted for medical uses could also be used for security purposes, like tracking employee movement through nuclear power plants.

Such security uses are rare in the United States.

Meanwhile, the chip has been used for pure whimsy: Club hoppers in Barcelona, Spain, now use the microchip to enter a VIP area and, through links to a different database, speed payment much like a smartcard.

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[Dunamis]

Still people continue to miss how easy it would become to falsify information. To be able to "copy" the code and use it on someone else is more than easy, it's child's play with the correct tools (a scanner you can buy off online).

[Armilus]

People will never realize how serious things are, until it's too late, for they are hypnotized with endless entertainment and overload of useless information. It may be a coincidence, but this was discussed at P2 lodge in Italy, how to occupy people with crap, so they don't focus on the true issues.

[KM1]

Mark of the Beast, anyone? I don't believe the Christian myth but the fact that this prediction was written down millenia ago should have anybody, believer and non-believer alike, doing a double take. In the wise words of C & C Music Factory: "Things that make you go hmmm..."

KM1

[Shinobi]

True KM1

[Armilus]

Mark of the beast... They most probably saw people going to metal concerts.

Christian myth is real, it comes from Egypt, even Vatican has big obelisk on St. Peter Square.

[Dunamis]

(09-25-2011 01:14 PM)Armilus Wrote:  Christian myth is real, it comes from Egypt, even Vatican has big obelisk on St. Peter Square.

How ambiguous and yet highly charged a statement can one make? Would you care to elaborate, or are you baiting?

[Armilus]

About Christianity or Vatican? This monotheistic idea came from Egypt, some even say Moses was in reality Akhenaten, siding with Jews after being overthrown, because he went against pretty much all political currents at that time. Too advanced, or perhaps too simplistic, ideas for society back then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

Quote:The last dated appearance of Akhenaten and the Amarna family is in the tomb of Meryra II, and dates from second month, year 12 of his reign. After this the historical record is unclear, and only with the succession of Tutankhamun is somewhat clarified.

Even if this is not true, he most probably influenced Moses:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten#A...monotheism

Quote:Akhenaten and Judeo-Christian monotheism
The idea of Akhenaten as the pioneer of a monotheistic religion that later became Judaism has been considered by various scholars. One of the first to mention this was Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, in his book Moses and Monotheism. Freud argued that Moses had been an Atenist priest forced to leave Egypt with his followers after Akhenaten's death. Freud argued that Akhenaten was striving to promote monotheism, something that the biblical Moses was able to achieve. Following his book, the concept entered popular consciousness and serious research.

If this goes against your beliefs, perhaps it is just a matter of perception. You can say God worked through Egyptian pharaoh to give this idea to the Jews or something like that.

Vatican is often perceived as not truly Christian, but then again, how can you subjugate all those lands and kings and spread the Gospel without at least some temporal ambitions anyway? It is necessary evil so to speak. Obelisk has no special function, even Egyptians didn't know how to use those for the most of the time. Basically it is as functional as a Cargo Cult airplane.

[Dunamis]

(09-26-2011 03:32 PM)Armilus Wrote:  If this goes against your beliefs, perhaps it is just a matter of perception.

It doesn't at all. Akhenaten has drawn my interest for quite some time now, though it if difficult finding much by way of scholarly works on the subject of the Moses links.

I'm often shocked how little people know about the type of "slavery" spoken of in the bible in regards to the Hebrews (tent dwellers). All the descriptions of life sound eerily similar to those of the modern "proletariat".

(09-26-2011 03:32 PM)Armilus Wrote:  Vatican is often perceived as not truly Christian, but then again, how can you subjugate all those lands and kings and spread the Gospel without at least some temporal ambitions anyway? It is necessary evil so to speak.

I would have to totally disagree. I'd suggest there is no such thing as "necessary evil". The end do not justify the means, and the goal is not the only thing to consider. Christ was clear on this issue, and so to should be those that attest to be His disciples.

I'd even go so far as to state that believing in necessary evil is the very reason the institutionalised "Church" has never gained much weight in spreading the true message of Christ, that is, the gospel of free redemption, forgiveness, and peace.

That is not to say that it is not true that "all things work together for good, for those that love God", because this can be clearly seen in the lives of those who clearly seek after the Fathers heart above even their own.

[FastTadpole]

Some Corporations are already doing this internally for security measures. I've seen this done in bars and biometrics have been used in school lunch lines. Pets tracking for Cats and Dogs have been chipped for relocation as well.


Related threads in reverse chronological order:

Joe Biden on Chip Tracking and Future Crime
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=31603

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Chip and pill: The hi-tech tablet that will text when it's time to take another dose
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=34580

IBM gets $16 million to bolster its brain-on-a-chip technology
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Chip-ing The Children
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Electronic Chip, Interacting With The Brain
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=27144

Take Yr Child To The Lodge And Chip It
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One Mainframe To Rule Them All
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=39822
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=11021

The more in our face concern is cell phones IMO

Disconnect from The Cell Phone Trap or Fry Your Brain and CNS. Now You Know. Your Choice.
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=35474

The 10 smartphones that emit the most radiation
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=940

10 Reasons NOT to Cave in and get a Cell Phone
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Cell Phone Safety Alert Interview with Robert O. Becker (2000)
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Video Lecture :: Dr. Magda Havas: The Truth About Wired & Wireless Technology
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A Global Template? India to Register 1.2 Billion Citizens with Mobile Biometric ID
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[Shinobi]

Hmm I have to remain open minded about christianity
it also has its roots deeply tied in to celtic origin
aswell as egyptian which has been mentioned here.
I believe christ existed, and christianity was enforced
evovled and made in to something to control people
but actually has nothing to do with jesus atall.
I believe in god but follow no religion to do so.
A one true creator of the universe.

I believe there is a good & evil and both have their minions
spirits & angels at work and of course the cattle 'us'.
When you look at it all religion seems to do is cause
more arguments no real conclusions and more pissed off people
religions are a main cause of much of the terrible things happening
in our world.

I know freemasons will still deny it but its another
form of religion also since its rituals are of a religious nature
and for the rituals to mean something it requires belief.
Another powerful thing 'belief'.

Some, believe what they want to believe

[FastTadpole]

Hey maybe this is off topic but I don't give a fuck I'm just jumping off after your lead IC1 - chain style.

You hit on some points about theology/spirituality/religion that were reminisce of a thought provoking thread from not too long ago here.

God as a Math Problem...
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=34663

Really any form of social engineering is usually garnished with faith, among other ideological railroads namely, piecework logic, psychology, emotion, compartmentalization, force and manufactured situations and environments,. They all work in tandem to put people in alignment to better adhere with certain objectives of groups and individuals.

In addition to education, labour and culture we see this in the monetary system as well as I took a shot at defining in The MONOPOLY Analogy.

"more arguments no real conclusions" whatever the source is crippling any advance against these oppositional elements before ideas can manifest into any real action.

So a logical way to go about this is to get off the intertwining playing fields, or the box constructs, of the current states of religion, law, economics, education, technology and hive culture; the systems that constitute the makeup of an easily managed and predictable populace.

Anyone here with any inkling of a connection to logic or there inner voice supplanted with even a fraction of the knowledge (good and bad) contained in this discussion forum should know that head on revolution is well fortified against.

Know thy enemy (see Sun Tzu quotes for a few beads), know thyself, it is a grand game of chess but it isn't being played on a chessboard. It's not about destruction but constructing minds, making headway, an inch at a time for as long as it takes. There are no heroes this is a group effort because it is a group problem of insanity - doesn't matter how it got that way either at this point in the game.

There is a big multi-faceted play coming on all fronts and I'm afraid, and I'm inspired at the opportunity of what is most definitely an opening in this move for those that can see it - lead the pack and don't forget the children for any lasting impact, but more immediately the enforcers.

Be wise. Be unpredictable and creative. Build rather than destroy. Be philosophical. Have a plan. Map your priorities. Eye on the ball. Be patient. Be persistent. Gather allies. Balance thought with action and grow a pair.

[daniel9]

i would like to know more about akhenaten also. and his monotheistic beleifs. as for the vatican being christian or a necessary evil i completely disagree. and how are we to knwo the truths of christianity when all the places and all the knowledge gained and taught by jesus is covered up by organizations like the vatican and church fathers of the past who thought they knew better of what people should learn. jesus from what i can tell was among the celts and learned from their as went to other places around the world and into other belief systems learning before later in life turning into the being we all know him as.

[Shinobi]

(10-21-2011 07:24 AM)daniel9 Wrote:  jesus from what i can tell was among the celts and learned from their as went to other places around the world and into other belief systems learning before later in life turning into the being we all know him as.

I'm interested by what you have explained here. Can you provide some
sources or the original source you had learned this from ?
I would much appreciate it, it's not the first time this has come up
just i've never really looked in to it. I'll gladly check out what you share
then of course go looking on my own to see what I can find out about it.
Thanks.

@FastTadpole WayToGo