England Riots 2011

[icosaface]

There you go, another set up by the dark side.

[yeti]

The pigs in England are doing exactly what the pigs in Canada did - stand back and let the cretins run wild to justify using more force. Pigs like job security too...

[R.R]

For anyone interested this channel has been showing regular live updates in Birmingham.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sangat-tv

Tonight looks bad with rumours circulating that gangs from out of town are coming into the city out of anger of the killing of 3 muslim men, while many football hooligans are apparently incensed at what is happening and are coming into the town center by the hundreds. There are small noises about the EDL turning up but I highly doubt that but its a good story if you're trying to turn all this into a race war. It looks like its gone beyond random rioters now though.

Quote:Three killed in crash on night of Birmingham riots

Three men have been run over and killed as they protected property in a second night of violence in Birmingham.

The men aged 31, 30 and 21 were hit by a car in Winson Green. They were taken to City Hospital where about 200 people from the Asian community gathered.

Witnesses said the men were in a group protecting their community after riot police were called into the city.

Police have arrested a 32-year-old man who is being questioned on suspicion of murder following the deaths.

West Midlands Police Chief Constable Chris Sims said the incident happened when a group of males had been gathered close to a petrol station in Dudley Road.

"At some point, and in circumstances that as yet I can't fully explain, a vehicle has been driven into that group of males, which tragically has led to three of those men losing their lives," he said.

All three were from the Asian Muslim community, he said.

Referring to the arrest he said: "He has been arrested for murder because the information that we have at the moment would support the idea the car was deliberately driven."

'Covered in blood'

Tariq Jahan, whose son Haroon Jahan was killed, said he was nearby when it happened.

"My instinct was to help the three people, I did not know who they were but they had been injured.

"I was helping the first man and someone from behind told me my son was behind me.

"So I started CPR on my own son, my face was covered in blood, my hands were covered in blood.

"Why, why?"

He said his son, who was a mechanic, had been trying to protect the community as incidents were taking place elsewhere in the area. He said a petrol station along the road had been attacked.

"He was a very good lad, a good man starting at the beginning of his life and had his whole life ahead of him," he said.

"I've got no words to describe why he was taken and why this has happened and what's happening to the whole of England.

"It makes no sense why people are behaving in this way and taking the lives of three innocent people."

Witnesses to the incident said the three victims - two of them brothers - were part of a group protecting shops from looting.

Kabir Khan Isakhel said: "People came out of prayers [at a local mosque] and they were protecting the area.

"They were standing on the side of the road and the car just came and ran them over."
'Car came flying'

Mohammed Shakiel, 34, a carpenter, said the men "lost their lives for other people".

"They weren't standing outside a mosque, a temple, a synagogue or a church - they were standing outside shops where everybody goes.

"They were protecting the community as a whole."

Another eyewitness said the victims were thrown into the air after a car mounted the kerb where they were standing.

"A car came flying at a bunch of lads standing there," one young man, who was not named, told BBC News.

He said the three men went flying into the air and "within six seconds it was all over".

West Midlands Police said: "Three men have died following a road collision in the Winson Green area of Birmingham which detectives are treating as murder.

"Three men were taken to hospital where two later died from their injuries. A third man was in a critical condition but confirmed dead at around 6.30am.

"West Midlands Police have launched a murder inquiry, arrested one man in connection with the incident and recovered a vehicle nearby which will be examined by forensics experts."
'Mix of voices'

Mr Sims said he wanted to ensure the incident did not lead to a wider level of mistrust or violence.

"At these difficult times, people across all our communities must trust the police to protect them," he said.

Derrick Campbell, of Race Equality Sandwell, appealed to people not to take the law into their own hands.

"The police are here to take charge and are doing their job," he said.

"I would appeal to all to please remain calm - we must cease the violence and please do not turn this into something that it is not.

"This is an accident, by the sounds of it - we certainly haven't got any more information more than that but we must remain calm and wait for the investigation to be concluded."

The Bishop of Aston, Andrew Watson, said he had attended a meeting with local MP Shabana Mahmood and 40 Muslim men from the community.

"There was a mix of voices," he said.

"Some were saying we mustn't rise up but there was some talk of reprisals. The community is in shock.

"The meeting helped, it was good the MP responded so quickly and we could talk to the community."

Officers have appealed for witnesses or anyone with information to come forward.

There was looting in Birmingham city centre, Wolverhampton and West Bromwich on Tuesday night.

Police said there were 163 arrests on Tuesday evening and Wednesday morning up to 03:00 BST. That brings the total number of arrests in the West Midlands to about 300 since the disorder began.

Police have been investigating reports that shots had been fired in the Aston area of Birmingham.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bir...m-14471405

[Swordfish]

Summary of this whole thing:
No political agenda, most of these thugs and looters probably dont even know who the prime minister is.

Not defending an injustice, its just an excuse to steal a new laptop , watches etc etc

Its the same groups that will burgle your house, slash your car tyres, destroy your local park and think its funny.

So called anarchists on this forum who approve of police baiting should hope this shit doesnt hit their neighbourhood.

[crystal]

I keep seeing this same car footage and now i can see it was a set up.
Look at the captions.

[TriWooOx]

This video really fucked me off...



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...thugs.html

[crystal]

Totally staged car left there for pysop bbc footage.

Quote:It's all about curfews, cant you people see that?

Take away the youths hope, then demonize them, then get the public to shout something must be done.

Classic Psy-Op.

Does'nt anybody else find it a bit hypocritical, how all the MP's are saying its disgusting, criminal behaviour but these same people and support allow the wholesale looting of Iraq, Lybia, Syria.

[Dunamis]

1. Police in fear of huge job cuts which were planned
2. Police shoot young man, which results in a peaceful demonstration outside a police station
3. Time passes and others appear at the police station & start causing trouble.
4. A riot breaks out, within 3 days the same in a few major cities. Masses of damage done, sometimes with police standing back watching.
5. Four days in, talks about saving police jobs begin.

Here's an interesting one from April 2010:




Other Video's:

[yeti]

Sorry Dunamis, I disagree with your usage of the word "police" in this context - these people are pigs in uniform. When they consider their jobs more important than public safety, they are not worthy of the term "police".

[Dunamis]

Quote:Well-heeled join downtrodden in looting spree
Nino Bucci
August 11, 2011 - 11:43AM

From an organic chef and an opera house steward to an 11-year-old boy, a surprising picture has emerged of some of the alleged troublemakers behind Britain's worst riots for decades.

The first court appearances of more than 1000 people arrested suggests a broad cross-section of society took part in the riots and looting, including university students and members of the upper-middle class.


Pleaded guilty ... Primary school assistant Alexis Bailey covers his face from the media as he leaves court. Photo: Reuters

In London alone, 805 people had been arrested in connection with violence, disorder and looting and 251 have been charged.

Fitzroy Thomas, a 43-year-old organic chef, was accused with his brother Ronald, 47, of smashing up a branch of the Nando's chicken restaurant chain in Clapham, south London, the Times daily reported.

The pair pleaded not guilty in a London magistrates court and were remanded in custody, the paper said.


Shame file ... London's Daily Telegraph has published pictures of the accused, including, from left, the 11-year-old boy, Richard Myles-Palmer and Alexis Bailey

Nan Asante, 19, who recently started work as a steward at an outdoor opera venue in the upmarket London district of Holland Park, reportedly pleaded not guilty to looting a supermarket in the capital.

The Telegraph reported that an 11-year-old boy, who cannot be named, was chased by his aunt and mother down the street and dragged back by the scruff of his neck after he appeared in court. He was bailed over charges of looting a Debenhams department store in Romford, Essex.

He had been in custody for two days and had been arrested with a mob of 20 other children. The boy admitted stealing a waste bin worth £50 ($75 AUD).


Looters rampage through a convenience store in Hackney. Photo: Reuters

Another alleged rioter was a 20-year-old student at Essex University near London, Banye Kanon, according to reports, which said other suspects included a youth worker and a forklift truck driver.

Laura Johnson, the 19-year-old daughter of a successful company director who lives in a sprawling Kent farmhouse, was accused of looting electrical goods worth £5000 ($7850 AUD).

Johnson, The Telegraph reported, is an English and Italian undergraduate at the University of Exeter and had previously attended the fourth-best state school in the country.


Looters carry boxes out of a home cinema shop in central Birmingham.

Her parents, Robert and Lindsay, run Avongate, a direct marketing company, but Mr Johnson was also a director of a company that took over the Daily Sport and Sunday Sport newspapers in 2007. A neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: “I just wouldn't expect someone from round here to be accused of this.”

Alexis Bailey, 31, a worker at a primary school, admitted being part of a mob that tried to loot an electrical shop in Croydon, The Telegraph reported. Bailey left court with a newspaper over his face, a headline about “copycat cretins” covering his eyes, and walked into a lamp-post.

Another man, who The Telegraph reported had a substantial criminal record, adhered more to Prime Minister David Cameron's lament about "sickness" in British society. Richard Myles-Palmer was found wheeling a shopping trolley full of stolen power tools through south London.

The apparent involvement of such people in the riots will only deepen the debate over who and what was behind the outbreak of violence.

As the Guardian newspaper pointed out: "There is no simple answer to the question: who are the rioters?"

While many were young men from poor areas, the rioters came from different racial groups, women also joined in and the ages of those involved ranged from their teens to their forties, said the paper.

Many commentators saw an element of opportunism, as police lost control of the streets to hooded gangs, others helped themselves from shops after their windows were smashed.

But gangs of hooded youths from deprived areas were undoubtedly some of the main participants in the trouble, leading some to conclude that society's failure to integrate poor communities was a long-term cause of the riots.

In Manchester, where riots broke out on Tuesday, gangs in their late teens and 20s, often riding bicycles, roamed the streets until late into the night, smashing shops and looting, AFP journalists reported.

"There's a body of very angry young people out there, young people who have been marginalised systematically within society for decades," education expert Professor Gus John.

"I think to a large extent, it's an outpouring of pent-up anger against the police, but also total frustration with their situation as people who see no future for themselves."

Some however rejected arguments that social conditions played a role and simply demanded a swift crackdown on the perpetrators.

The Sun tabloid, Britain's biggest-selling daily, asked readers to "shop a moron" on a front page emblazoned with CCTV images of alleged rioters.

"This unrest isn't about 'wider social issues' or poverty," wrote youth and community worker Shaun Bailey, a former parliamentary candidate for the ruling Conservative Party, in the paper.

"It is about robbery. And people's businesses, homes and livelihoods are being destroyed in the process."

With AFP

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/world/wellheele...1insa.html

[Dunamis]

(08-11-2011 12:25 AM)yeti Wrote:  Sorry Dunamis, I disagree with your usage of the word "police" in this context - these people are pigs in uniform. When they consider their jobs more important than public safety, they are not worthy of the term "police".

Cool man, no worries. I just don't change my definitions etc due to the immoral actions of others.

That and I of course do not tarnish all with the same brush.

It has since been released that they were ordered by political interests to stand back and observe (at least for the first two days). That and, I know a few "good" police officers.

But then, I grew up on a council estate, maybe you once had a major respect for the police, I didn't grow up with that, no one much "liked" them in my area.

[rsol]

exesive ecsesive....

can anyone spell excessive?

[Dunamis]

Quote:Olympic ambassador 'hurled bricks at police car' and led attack on Vodafone store during riots - and was shopped to police by her mum
By David Williams and Lydia Warren
Last updated at 1:27 AM on 12th August 2011

A girl chosen as an ‘Olympic ambassador’ was turned in to police by her mother who saw her among rioters on TV.

An emotional Adrienne Ives, 47, said the decision which led to the arrest of her 18-year-old daughter Chelsea was ‘gut-wrenching’.

She said: ‘But I had to do what was right. She won’t thank us.’


Detained: Chelsea Ives is seen arriving at Westminster Magistrates Court overnight

Mrs Ives was at home in Leytonstone, east London, on Sunday night with her husband Roger, 54, watching the scenes of anarchy unfold on the streets of Enfield, just six miles to the north.

‘Roger and I were watching the TV news and it was absolutely sickening,’ she said.

‘And then we saw our daughter. I could not believe it. For a minute we did not know what to do.

‘But then, what could normal honest parents do? How can you sit there and see that and say, “That’s OK”? We were watching people lose their homes and businesses. As parents we had to say, “She can’t get away with that”.

‘I will be portrayed as a bitch – but what are you supposed to do?’

Ives, a talented athlete, is an Olympic ambassador, one of the volunteers who will welcome visitors during the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games. Ambassadors are to be ‘the face of London’ and will greet and advise visitors at airports, rail stations and tourist hotspots.

She has met Boris Johnson and London Olympics chief Sebastian Coe.

Yesterday she appeared at Westminster magistrates’ court, which heard that she boasted of having ‘the best day ever’ after allegedly rampaging through Enfield.

Prosecutor Becky Owen said that Ives had been involved in an attack on a Vodafone store.

‘She was first to pick up masonry and hurl it at the window,’ she said.

It was alleged that Ives attacked a mobile telephone shop before hurling masonry at a marked police BMW in a ‘frenzied’ attack that forced officers to flee.


Sports ambassador: Chelsea Ives at a football promotion event last year with left, former England and Arsenal footballer Martin Keown, and far right, former minister for sport Richard Caborn

Yesterday she denied burglary at two mobile phone shops, violent disorder and attacking the BMW police car and was remanded in custody. Her case will be committed to crown court at her next appearance before magistrates.

Ives was invited into the House of Commons two years ago to celebrate the success of a football project run by Leyton Orient Community Sport Programme in East London. She was awarded the area’s Young Sports Performer of the Year in 2008 for her ‘outstanding contribution to sport’.

She attended Tom Hood School, Waltham Forest, Leytonstone, where she excelled at sport. She took part in the London Youth Rowing competition for the school in 2009 and she is currently a member of Woodford Green Essex Ladies athletics club.

On her Facebook page she had spoken of the rioting in London, particularly in Tottenham.
Her mother, a medical secretary, is well known in East London as a prolific fundraiser through charity runs and marathons for Sense, Breast Cancer Campaign and Get Kids Going.

In 1994, she raised money for the Encephalitis Society after her husband suffered from a rare brain inflammation.

Ives's case was one of more than 240 already brought before magistrates as courts extended their opening hours to cope with the deluge of suspects arrested over the riots.

The most dramatic scenes came at City of Westminster magistrates, where the court ran through the night with defendants struggling to stay awake in the dock and some suspects banging on the walls of their cells in an attempt to disrupt the hearings taking place yards away.

Others appearing before magistrates today included university graduate Natasha Reid, who handed herself in to police because she was 'unable to sleep' after looting from a Comet store.

Reid, 24, who said she hoped to become a social worker, was tearful and held her head in her hands after pleading guilty to stealing a £270 TV.

Her lawyer Andre Billington told how she had an attack of conscience and went to a police station in Chingford with the stolen television.

District judge Elizabeth Roscoe told her that her remorse would 'very much go in your favour' but warned that she could still face prison because of the 'serious nature' of the case.

Westminster magistrates also heard how Victoria Holmes, 19, of Dartford, who gave birth six weeks ago, was arrested by police in Woolwich with her boyfriend and allegedly a suitcase full of looted goods.

She was accused of theft from Gamestation, Argos and a men's clothing company called Blue Inc, and of receiving stolen goods.She was remanded in custody.

Elsewhere, trainee dental nurse Laura Cook, 19, of Roffey Close, Purley, admitted cannabis possession but pleaded not guilty to burglary after being caught by police among a 100-strong mob found raiding the Argos store in Church Street, Croydon on Monday.

She was remanded in custody and will miss an exam that her solicitor described as 'hugely significant' for her career.

In another Westminster case, the court was told how customers at a café in St John's Wood chased away a marauding gang of knife-wielding thugs.

Badawi el Badawi, 20, from St John's Wood, was among the group, it was claimed.

One attacker allegedly threw a shopping trolley at the café, causing customers to run inside in fear, while others smashed the windows and tried to set a parked car on fire.

El Badawi was remanded in custody.

The gang also set fire to towels they carried with them, throwing them into the café with customers inside.

The court heard a 21-year-old university student who is in his second year of a law degree was one of the gang. His lawyer said he denied the charges.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ttack.html

[Dunamis]

I was unsure the following laws even existed:

Quote:Teenager on Blackberry riot charge
Friday, 12 August 2011

An 18-year-old woman has been charged with using BlackBerry messaging to encourage others to take part in violence.

The woman, from Clacton, Essex, is accused of sending a message encouraging others to take part in violent disorder on Monday.

She has been charged with intentionally encouraging or assisting in the commission of an offence under the Serious Crime Act 2007.

The woman, who was arrested yesterday, has been released on police bail to appear at Colchester Magistrates' Court on September 1.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...36559.html

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Quote:11-year-old girl in Facebook riot plot
Friday, 12 August 2011

An 11-year-old girl has been told off by police after being involved in a Facebook plot to encourage people to riot.

Devon and Cornwall Police said its officers visited the girl's home and spoke to her regarding a page on the social networking site which called people on to the streets of Plymouth during disturbances which took place in other parts of the country.


A force spokesman confirmed the girl was "given words of advice concerning entries on to social networking sites".

He said: "The force is also continuing to monitor social media sites and take action where appropriate to deal with potential to create disorder.

"A 20-year-old man from Torquay, three men in their 20s from Newquay and an 11-year-old girl in Plymouth have all received visits by police and been given words of advice concerning entries on to social networking sites.

"None of the entries led to any disorder taking place."

The page, Plymouth Riot Save Are England from the Goverment (sic), was listed as an "event" and invited more than 400 people to take part in pre-planned copycat disorder on Tuesday outside the city centre's Poundland store.

But while a handful of people, including Devon and Cornwall Police, confirmed their attendance online, nobody turned up.

The creator of the page, which has now been removed, was a man using the name Keith Hawkins. Before the page was taken down he was subjected to a barrage of abuse from local Facebook users who were alerted to its presence by friends and who were furious that he was planning such an event in the city.

Oliver Colvile, the Conservative MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport, said he was "horrified" that a girl as young as 11 had been involved in inciting violence.

He told the Plymouth Herald newspaper her actions were "appalling".

He said: "I have no doubt that the parents of this girl are horrified about what their daughter has done, as am I.

"Parents have got to take responsibility for their children's actions, and I would make sure that they and the girl know what the implications are.

"Investigating these sorts of things uses resources at a time when we simply cannot afford additional expenditure. It is costing the British taxpayer."

A 16-year-old youth, from Exeter, has also been spoken to by Devon and Cornwall officers over attempts to spark unrest in his home city.

Though there has been no unrest in Devon and Cornwall, the force, like others across the country, plans to continue with "high visibility" policing into the weekend, it said.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...36477.html

Quote:All night they came, dazed and confused, to face justice
Looting accused have their night in court
By Mary Dejevsky at City of Westminster magistrates' court
Friday, 12 August 2011

One o'clock in the morning: an 18-year-old girl in a tight T-shirt and jeans sits listening, or maybe not, as a string of accusations is read out: that she attacked shops, forced entry, hurled concrete masonry first at police – who fled – and then at their £60,000 patrol car, causing £5,000 damage. Good-quality CCTV pictures apparently show her in a street in Enfield, north London, around 6pm on Sunday. She is, so the prosecution lawyer says, with a predominantly male group of about 50 masked individuals who are behaving with extreme violence. She is said to have been identified by her distinctive appearance and, it emerges, because her estranged mother was watching TV and phoned the police. The girl rises to give her name, address (none) and date of birth, then she sits back down, appearing listless, bored and petulant by turns as proceedings motor on. Hers is just one case, among 60, to be heard at a special all-night sitting of Westminster magistrates' court – sittings replicated around the country to deal with this week's looters, arsonists and muggers.

She faces charges including violence, theft of telephone equipment and criminal damage. Almost in a whisper, she pleads not guilty. Her lawyer puts the case for bail, saying that since she broke with her mother at 16 and then with her stepmother, she had been staying at a friend's flat in a nearby tower block. She is refused bail and told to appear at Highbury Corner on 17 August, pending referral to the crown court.

The defence lawyer mentions her sporting expertise, which included playing football "to a respectable level". In fact, the prosecution noted, she had been invited to a reception in the House of Commons – a five-minute walk from the court – to celebrate the success of a community sports programme two years before.

The teenager was preceded in the dock by a tall, stooped black man, with a beard, who shambled in, in a fresh white T-shirt, to answer charges of attempted burglary, burglary and handling stolen goods, relating to the disturbances in east London. There was mention of mental health issues. At times bewildered, and waiting on the nod from his lawyer, he pleaded guilty, before being remanded to a crown court. The accused was led out.

Between 12.15am and 2.30am, just four cases were heard. In one, there was a homeless man under treatment for serious illness, who was accused of looting an east London off-licence, where a mob removed £10,000 of stock in five minutes. In another, a well-built man in his 20s was accused of stealing £40,000 worth of electrical goods.

All in their separate ways, seemed to personify strands of disadvantage; family, social or health dysfunction. These were not the budding professionals jeopardising their life chances. They were already scarred individuals, many had previous convictions, and it was hard to see how their problems could ever be remedied by any means short of one-to-one nurturing, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

Two guilty pleas brought remands to crown courts – because the magistrates did not have the power to impose penalties deemed severe enough. "These are very serious offences," the magistrate repeatedly intoned. The two pleading not guilty were remanded to appear at another magistrates' court in a week's time. Very few got bail, not even – later in the night – a woman with a baby of just six weeks.

Relatives, friends, lawyers, court officials, reporters and a very few curious members of the public milled around the court building, betraying increasing tiredness and frustration. People kipped down in the corridors and on the stairs. Among the lawyers and the court officials, though, fatigue was spiked with a strange sense of purpose.

I visited this building a few months before, and found everyone from security to administrative staff universally sullen and obstructive. Now, at dead of night, Westminster magistrates' court was a buzz of activity. And, while not exactly welcoming, police and court officials seemed to want to show that justice could not only be done competently in the nocturnal hours, but it could also be seen to be done.

The defendants...

The ballerina

The 17-year-old girl from Croydon, who cannot be named for legal reasons, handed herself in to police after spotting her picture in a newspaper appeal.

Westminster magistrates' court heard how she was among 30 or 40 young people who stormed into the Richer Sounds store during the riots in Croydon on Monday night.

She was captured on CCTV entering the store before emerging with a large-screen television. She later returned to claim a second television. In total, the store said it lost £190,000 of equipment.

The court heard how the girl, who appeared in the dock with her dyed blonde hair in braids and spoke softly only to confirm her name and age, had studied ballet since the age of seven and had secured a place at a dance academy. Her lawyer said she hoped to become a dancer and dance teacher. The court heard that, despite a search of her home, the televisions were not recovered. She pleaded guilty to burglary and was remanded in custody until her appearance at a crown court.

The journalism student

Ahmed Farah, 27, a journalism and history student from Hackney, east London, was arrested on Lower Clapton Road, Hackney, carrying a kitchen knife. The student, who studies at East London University, told police he had been returning from his uncle's restaurant where he works as a chef.

He pleaded guilty to possession of a knife blade, but the magistrate denied his application for bail. He was remanded in custody until his appearance at crown court later this month.

The would-be sportswoman

Chelsea Ives, 18, was arrested after her mother spotted her on television and called police.

She was filmed by the BBC throwing bricks at a £60,000 police car during the violence in Enfield on Sunday night.

She was also charged with breaking into the mobile phone shops Fones 4 U and Vodafone and stealing equipment.

"She was first to pick up masonry and hurl it at the window," said Becky Owens, for the prosecution.

Westminster magistrates' court heard that Ms Ives said after the alleged rampage that she had "the best day ever".

Ms Ives denied two counts of burglary, violent disorder and attacking a police car. She was described by her solicitor as a "talented sportswoman".

She was remanded in custody until a date in August.

The estate agent, trainee accountant and engineering student

Saffron Armstrong, 22, an accountancy and finance student, Kairo Lawson, 22, a second-year civil engineering student, and Gassam Ojjeh, 22, an estate agent, all from Mitcham, Surrey, were allegedly caught inside a burnt-out PC World store in Colliers Wood when police dogs entered the shop.

The defendants were found in the store on Wednesday, 24 hours after it had been raided by looters during the riots, the court heard. Lisa Brown, for the prosecution, said they had been discovered at around 10.40pm on Monday.

"Clearly these riots were some of the worst that took place," she said. "Substantial damage had been caused and properties had been looted. These offences took place against that backdrop."

The court heard how Armstrong told police when they approached him that he was a freelance journalist assessing the damage. Lawson was said to have resisted arrest. His mother, who was said in court to be terminally ill, was in the packed courtroom to witness his hearing.

Armstrong and Lawson pleaded guilty to burglary with intent to steal, while Mr Ojjeh denied the charges. All three were remanded in custody.

The aspiring youth worker

Natasha Reid, 24, from Edmonton, north London, pleaded guilty to theft and entering with intent to steal, at City of Westminster magistrates' court .

The court heard how she had been on her way to McDonald's in Enfield when she noticed a Comet store had been broken into, where she stole a £300 JVC television. Her lawyer said she handed herself in because she could not sleep with the guilt.

The youth worker

Samir Shah, from St John's Wood, north London, was allegedly among 16 young men who ran up Lodge Road in St John's Wood, trashing a string of cafes and restaurants and threatening customers just after midnight on Wednesday.

Becky Owen, for the prosecution, told Westminster magistrates that the group "ransacked properties and terrorised customers" in the area. Police used CS spray to subdue Mr Shah before his arrest, the court heard. It heard how Mr Shah had worked as a peer mentor at a school in Westminster and had taken part in youth events about gun and youth crime. He also coached football and had an offer to start university in September.

He denied violent disorder and was remanded in custody.

The law student

Marouane Rouhi, 21, a second-year law student from St John's Wood, was allegedly among the same group of youths that were rounded up by police after running rampage along Lodge Road. The court heard he was arrested at Taser point. He claimed he was travelling to the local mosque and had nothing to do with the rampage.

He denied violent disorder and was remanded in custody.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cri...36309.html

[SiLVa]

As sickening as all that is, when will people learn? Im not talking about anyone here of course but seriously...
As much as people assume the opposite, in reality, as defined by plenty of examples and even decided by previous court cases the police/government do not have an obligation to protect anything or anyone. Yeah thats right. Even though you and I pay taxes and other fees that support their "jobs" they are not obligated to help you at all. Another reason why they are useless and obsolete.
But instead of the people demanding their right to protect themselves and their businesses with arms, hiring private security or by whatever means necessary at their disposal, they cry about the police not doing anything and expect the government to give a shit. They just keep going back to the abusive nanny. Its just not a logical resolution.
THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU!!

Of course there are other motives for not doing anything which have been outlined in this thread and others, and these orders always come from the higher ups but the fact is if the underlings gave a shit, they'd disobey orders and help people like they are supposed to no matter what the "orders" are.