8 Reasons Young Americans Don't Fight Back: How the US Crushed Youth Resistance

[Negentropic]

(08-10-2011 03:28 PM)yeti Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 06:03 AM)Negentropic Wrote:  

Quote:Unite The Many, defeat the few.

That's Mr. Levine's big formula is it? ha ha hee ho ho. He must think he's real smart regurgitating that pathetic nonsense. It's more like Unite the Many, form an easy target & Get Defeated by the Few. That's how it works in reality.

Your reality seems to be that anyone who disagrees with it is worthy of rejection and ridicule. Your rhetoric has marginalized several key points which need to be made.

By the very definition of a movement which has a goal of defeating the few, the goal itself requires a unity of action. Therefore the many must be united in some way.

A huge majority of people will always have an advantage over a tiny minority unless there are unusual circumstances. This does not make the majority an easy target.

Unusual circumstances can change rapidly, therefore rapidly changing the odds of the outcome.

It's quite easy to show that tyrannical minority governments are relatively easy to take out when the vast majority of their subjects are unwilling to comply. This tipping point can occur extremely quickly.

Groups of people united in a common goal do not need to have a uniformity of opinions on irrelevant issues to accomplish their goal. To say otherwise is to ignore history and common sense.

I find your rhetoric to be extremely defeatist and an impediment to accomplishing the clear goals that the vast majority of humanity aspires to.

IOW, you are shilling for the people you claim to despise. This is not the first time I've noticed this about you. You seem to be shilling for them at every opportunity. Why is that?

Shill, shill shill, here we go again. Where have I heard that before if not a thousand & one times? As soon as you bring up any notions or lines of thought people are in the least bit uncomfortable about, you're a shill. It's the anti-semite of the conspiracy movement now that anti-semite doesn't work anymore. How about I disagree with you and neither of us are shills but can find potential common ground as distinct individuals?

I'm not collectivist in anything, I take the principle all the way out. But if I'm forced to be collectivist by powers out of my control then I'll take fascism over communism or Islamic fundamentalism any day. The problem with Fascism is that most people don't understand the reality of what it actually was due to the massive post-war 24-7 demonizing propaganda against it. Fascism was a reaction against Jew bankster power, just like Alex Jones, G. Edward Griffin and Ron Paul, except it didn't take any shit whatsoever and didn't pretend these Jew bankers were controlled by 'German Death Cults' or 'Illuminati' or the Vatican..

As far as individualism goes, I don't just go half-way out and then say, beyond this point we've got to become a collective, a group, a tribe and apply the pressure of numbers. That's what the post 1913 American system already is and it's been corrupted thorougly.

Hitler, Mussolini and fascism were a collectivist success. Germany under Hitler became an economic powerhouse in just 8 years, that's just an undeniable fact of history. To what degree that corporate-state dominant-culture-based collectivism would have become individualistic given many decades of continued success will never be known because of WWII. Most other 'fascisms' since then have been puppet-mastered in one way or another.

If it wasn't for WWII and the deliberate destruction of Germany then anti-International-bankster fascism would still be around because they would have used force to keep what they didn't want out of their country. Andrew Jackson did the same in the U.S. but the system stayed vulnerable and was attacked during Lincoln and the civil war and the imposition of the unconstitutional income tax and then got completely taken over by 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act.

As for it being easy to prove that tyrannical governments are 'easy to take out' when the tipping point is reached. I don't know about that. I don't see any 'tipping point' being reached in the U.S. or anywhere else and when you have 'enemy combatant' arrests and imprisonment in offshore prisons under the Patriot Act with no access to a lawyer and no charges necessary, TSA feeling up kids and cops tasering people to death, LSD chemists getting 2 life sentences, that's pretty tyrannical, the next step is outright gulags. The tipping point of the Soviet Union never came and when it was deliberately dismantled there was no blood, only billionaire Jews placed in strategic positions.

A fully documented history of a tipping point that was reached, the uprising that followed and how it got crushed:

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THE Hungarian uprising of 1956 was a spontaneous rebellion by a nation against the rule from Moscow - against the faceless, indifferent, incompetent functionaries (the 'funkies' David Irving calls them, adapting the Hungarian word funkcionáriusók) who in little more than a decade had turned their country into a pit of Marxist misery. But this fluttering of a national spirit was brief: the Soviet Union crushed the uprising with a brutality that shocked the western world.

The full story has never before been told. David Irving's search for material and documents took him to the great cities of the northern hemisphere. He questioned survivors in Moscow, Munich, Geneva, Paris, London, New York, Verona, Rome and Madrid - he obtained clearance of previously un-obtainable records in Washington relating to the role of the CIA, Radio Free Europe, and United States diplomacy. In Kansas he worked through the records of Eisenhower, American president at the time. In Toronto he found and interviewed Budapest's police chief, who had been recently amnestied from life imprisonment by the Hungarians.

Irving was officially permitted to visit Budapest several times. He traced and talked with eye-witnesses and survivors there and obtained new documents and photographs from them. He questioned the men who had been kidnapped, exiled, imprisoned and put on trial with the Prime Minister, Imre Nagy, who was sentenced to death, as well as members of Nagy's family.

It is Irving's assessment of Imre Nagy that will, perhaps, raise eyebrows, as well as his discovery among official records of evidence that anti-Semitism was one of the motors of the popular discontent. He has made use of hundreds of interrogation reports prepared at the time by American agencies, and supports this material with the diaries of diplomats and western journalists who went into Hungary.

The result is a compelling autopsy of a failed rebellion. Irving offers views from inside the council chambers of the powerful as well as from street level. The rebels are given names, personalities and profiles thanks to the detailed records of the American psychiatrists who saw them. It is a book with a cast of ten million, a study that counterpoints concrete examples with humour as David Irving shows just how a rebellious urge could erupt from within a nation.

pdf of entire book here:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Uprising/

Almost any revolt or riot seems to have been foreseen and planned for way ahead of time. Would those stupid-ass riots in England that had nothing to do with anti-NWO sentiment have happened to the extent they did if so many foreigners hadn't been imported into the country? I doubt it. They were pissed off that a minority got killed as they're programmed by the media to do. If a white guy got killed, they might have even celebrated.

Without the internet I would have no idea who you or any of these other guys in the 'truth movement' are unless I joined a party and then that party would ostracize anyone out that had individualistic views that disagreed with the agenda of the party or the party line. The great thing about the internet is that in many ways it restores the U.S. system of individualism in a zone where it can't be touched without shutting the internet down and spreads it to the entire world. People get banned on one forum or website and go to another or start their own. Then people who had many differences before, after a period of growth find enough similarities to help each other out without having to leave their house. Millions picketing didn't stop the Iraq war but millions of individuals on the internet led by thousands of blogs and forums expose new events or 'false-flags' in the alternative media within a matter of days. This offers tremendous hope that individualism will prevail against the oppressive systems and first and foremost the International Banking Cartel as it has done in the distant past. BUT barring that then when the shit hits the fan, and that when is already now it seems, it still remains a fact that the surgical knife of fascism has worked in the past and may work again in the future. It's collectivism but it's sure as shit preferable to communism, fundamentalist Islam or a Jew World Order worldwide tyranny and bankster enforced worldwide electronic grid. I'd much rather have individualism and true-Anarchy or authentic no-compromise Rothbardian libertarianism that fool-proofs the Jeffersonian system prevail but that's not necessarily realistic when you have a wimp like Ron Paul leading the charge. Under true libertarianism, civil rights is out the door and anyone that wants to discriminate based on race or any other reason is free to do so and lose 'customers' or face ostracism by those who do not subscribe to similar views. Does Ron Paul have to balls to say this? No. Does Ron Paul have the balls to say who owns the FED, as in NAMING the banks one by one and what specific group the leaders belong to? No. Does Ron Paul expose 9-11 for the false-flage and fraud it was? No. Would Hitler act like Ron Paul? Hell no! Would a Libertarian leader that had Hitler's balls or Andrew Jackson's balls be a 100% improvement over Ron Paul. Yes. Would a person with those kind of balls, as Alex Jones pretends to be, ignore the real history of WWII and deliberately not expose it when it's the single most propagandized and lied-about period of history? fat chance


'Till the false is seen as the false, truth is not.' Krishnamurti